DBCooper Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 Most of the time it's near imposible to shoot down a mig 15 when flying the sabre. Even when the Mig has a lot of bullit holes in it then it still can fly perfectly and it will outrun the sabre. This is insane! :cry: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drag0nWIng Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 verse AI? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBCooper Posted March 19, 2016 Author Share Posted March 19, 2016 Yep. Ai. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoflSeal Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 AI cheats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paganus Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 Shoot for the wing roots. They don't fly anymore after popping their wings off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reflected Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 AI cheats. DCS AI in general, or just the MIG? Any plans to fix this in a future update? Makes SP pretty annoying at times. :noexpression: Facebook Instagram YouTube Discord Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schmidtfire Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 Test flying against AI L-39ZA... air superiority fighter :music_whistling: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzzles Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 DCS AI in general, or just the MIG? Any plans to fix this in a future update? Makes SP pretty annoying at times. :noexpression: All DCS AI. Fancy trying Star Citizen? Click here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drag0nWIng Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 (edited) I try to shoot the il-76, it has 4 engine under its wing as you known. Unless il-76 lost all of four engines or I use the gun to shoot its tail down, it could still fly back to the airfield. Don't mind that. Edited March 21, 2016 by Drag0nWIng Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zabuzard Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 Most AI aircrafts have no detailed damage model. Nor a very detailed physic model. For example they will probably fly faster than you with the same damage, can pull more energy and take more damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1.JaVA_Platypus Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 (edited) Also, when bullet-holes appear on, let's say the engine section, it doesn't mean that the engine is actually hit in DCS. There is a bug in the gunsight, you have to aim slightly forward of the MiG. The ammount of 'slightly' varies with distance to the target. Smoking AI MiGs can take a chance to leave the fight. They won't do that as long as you are behind them though. It is only very difficult to guess when this is going to actually happen. Anyways, I think the ammo load-out is sufficient to take out three or so MiG's. But it sure is a telling sign that after the Sabre, no more .50's where used on frontline fighters. I don't think the MiG-15 is really all that tough, I shot-off wings and other pieces before. But I think the .50's are just a little weak. (wich is surprising since WWII vets claim to have disabled Tiger Tanks with it, but that is another discussion. ;)) Edited March 21, 2016 by 1.JaVA_Platypus Happy Flying! :pilotfly: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qqQ Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 Well, as said before you will get best results when shooting at the wing roots, which works best if you are not shooting directly behind but from behind and above like you do whilst turning with the Mig. The Mig cant outrun you, not even in perfect condition. It may outaccelerate you, but if you are patient you will start getting closer. OS: Win10 | Hardware: Z97 Mainboard, i7 4790k @4Ghz, GTX980, 4x4GB DDR3-1600 Dual Channel Ram, TM Warthog (w/ Extension) + Throttle, CH Pro Pedals, TIR5 with Custom Clip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBCooper Posted April 2, 2016 Author Share Posted April 2, 2016 Still the damage model of AI turns this sim into an arcade game IMHO... It's a bloody shame, because the rest of this game is great! I hope the AI , damage model, will be fixed in the (near?) future... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qqQ Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 (edited) Just keep in mind that improving the AI damage model (fixing sounds kinda weird since there is no bug or similar) will also require to improve the AI code as it needs to be able to handle the damage. But I agree that an inprovement would be nice, also for DCS WW2. THe damage model was made for missile engagements, and for those explosions it must not be that accurate, but now it should be improved as there are many aircraft that rely on guns only A2A. @Platypus : Maybe you dont need to slightly lead the Mig when changing the target velocity selector in the gunsight controls panel (next to the rocket depression)? Havent experienced that yet, the gunsight was pretty accurate for me....limiting factor was my bad aiming, really need to practice! Edited April 2, 2016 by qqQ OS: Win10 | Hardware: Z97 Mainboard, i7 4790k @4Ghz, GTX980, 4x4GB DDR3-1600 Dual Channel Ram, TM Warthog (w/ Extension) + Throttle, CH Pro Pedals, TIR5 with Custom Clip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nooch Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 Also, when bullet-holes appear on, let's say the engine section, it doesn't mean that the engine is actually hit in DCS. Yes and even when shooting directly through the engine exhaust, it is still running which is quite frustrating right now... :cry: There is a bug in the gunsight, you have to aim slightly forward of the MiG. The ammount of 'slightly' varies with distance to the target. Smoking AI MiGs can take a chance to leave the fight. They won't do that as long as you are behind them though. It is only very difficult to guess when this is going to actually happen. I don't think it's a bug. From what I know it's modelled like in reality. This type of gyro gunsight can only give good lead calculation when pulling a relatively low amount of g's. So when you're turning very hard you can't rely on the gunsight anymore. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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