Which HUD?

[King_Hrothgar]

Not sure about you, but if both my engines die, a temporary HUD failure to go with it wouldn't be terribly high on my list of concerns.:joystick:

[BlackLion213]

Not sure about you, but if both my engines die, a temporary HUD failure to go with it wouldn't be terribly high on my list of concerns.:joystick:

 

It's not even on my list of concerns... ;)

 

It turns out there are a few other things on the F-14 that need electricity...like the control systems.

 

The hydraulics for the flight controls are operated by a pump driven by the right engine. If the right engine is down, the flight control hydraulics have an electric back-up (which means there is less electricity available for other things, like lights - interestingly).

 

But if both engines are down and there is no battery as a back-up....then Newton is the only one who gets to drive.

 

-Nick

 

PS - The NATOPS manual states that if both engines are stalled, leave one in the stalled condition (usually take it about 30 seconds or so to catch fire...), shut down the other one and attempt a restart before shutting down the other. This prevents the total loss of electrical and hydraulic power.

[Hummingbird]

Hi Frisco,

 

Per Cobra, we are getting #1.

 

#2 is the Sparrowhawk HUD (fitted to F-14Bs starting around 2001).

 

#3 is the F-14D HUD.

 

-Nick

 

Dang it, I was hoping for the #2 HUD, was really looking forward to trying that one :)

[Vitormouraa]

Maybe in the future we can get the third guys.. who knows?! (at least I hope so, F-14D is pretty awesome)

[FWind]

It's not even on my list of concerns... ;)

 

It turns out there are a few other things on the F-14 that need electricity...like the control systems.

 

The hydraulics for the flight controls are operated by a pump driven by the right engine. If the right engine is down, the flight control hydraulics have an electric back-up (which means there is less electricity available for other things, like lights - interestingly).

 

But if both engines are down and there is no battery as a back-up....then Newton is the only one who gets to drive.

 

-Nick

 

PS - The NATOPS manual states that if both engines are stalled, leave one in the stalled condition (usually take it about 30 seconds or so to catch fire...), shut down the other one and attempt a restart before shutting down the other. This prevents the total loss of electrical and hydraulic power.

 

:thumbup:

 

[Buzzles]

It's not even on my list of concerns... ;)

 

It turns out there are a few other things on the F-14 that need electricity...like the control systems.

 

The hydraulics for the flight controls are operated by a pump driven by the right engine. If the right engine is down, the flight control hydraulics have an electric back-up (which means there is less electricity available for other things, like lights - interestingly).

 

But if both engines are down and there is no battery as a back-up....then Newton is the only one who gets to drive. [snip]

 

Wildly veering off topic now, but from a casual glance over the D's dash-1 last week, it read in the "Total Electrical Failure" section that even when out of power completely the plane has at least *some* control available.

I might have read it wrong though, it was only a glance.

[BlackLion213]

Wildly veering off topic now, but from a casual glance over the D's dash-1 last week, it read in the "Total Electrical Failure" section that even when out of power completely the plane has at least *some* control available.

I might have read it wrong though, it was only a glance.

 

You're right, controls should be largely unaffected by a "Total Electrical Failure" if the right engine is still running.

 

The point of my prior comment was to point out that since the Tomcat has no battery (or RAT or APU), if both engines are out then there will be no source of electricity. Without the engines running the hydraulic pumps and no electricity, the aircraft is essentially dead (cold and dark). If you windmill the TF30 at ~325+ kts (IIRC), then there will be electrical power generated.

 

Most aircraft in DCS retain cockpit power and control authority in the event of an engine flameout (from my experiences with the MiG-21 and Mirage 2000C) so this aspect of the Tomcat could catch some off guard.

 

Still, truly flaming out both engines (as a opposed to "stalling/hung stalling" both engines) is not that easy. But while it would be nearly inconceivable in the F-15C (or F-14B), it is indeed possible in the F-14A if you make some big mistakes.

 

-Nick

[SkateZilla]

L39 doesnt :-)

[Cobra847]

Right now we're focusing on just the original HUD.

 

It's not the most enjoyable device to use, in particular the refresh/clamp updaterate makes it quite "laggy"

[Darkbrotherhood7]

Right now we're focusing on just the original HUD.

 

It's not the most enjoyable device to use, in particular the refresh/clamp updaterate makes it quite "laggy"

Would you consider make the Sparrowhawk HUD in the future?

[Drag0nWIng]

They've discussed this topic last year...

[BlackLion213]

L39 doesnt :-)

 

I haven't killed the L-39's engine yet...clearly I'm not trying hard enough. :)

 

Also:

Most aircraft in DCS retain.....

 

It seems that I should continue with my careful word selection. ;)

 

Right now we're focusing on just the original HUD.

 

It's not the most enjoyable device to use, in particular the refresh/clamp updaterate makes it quite "laggy"

 

Yes, excellent..... (I need a Mr. Burns emoji..:)).

 

 

Just like this! Capturing the flaws with the strengths, can't wait to try it. :D

 

-Nick

[Tirak]

I haven't killed the L-39's engine yet...clearly I'm not trying hard enough. :)

 

Also:

 

It seems that I should continue with my careful word selection. ;)

 

 

 

Yes, excellent..... (I need a Mr. Burns emoji..:)).

 

 

Just like this! Capturing the flaws with the strengths, can't wait to try it. :D

 

-Nick

 

Seems like the guncross is gonna be pretty useless if it lags that badly.

[BlackLion213]

Seems like the guncross is gonna be pretty useless if it lags that badly.

 

The pipper "cages" at the end of the video, hence the big jump. Also, this close range, very high-aspect scenario requires the fastest updates and accentuates any lag.

 

That said, it will take more practice to maximize than other HUDs currently in DCS. Players will need to learn about some of the limitations and work around them at times. But usually the targeting diamond stayed fairly well centered and the gun pipper did work. :)

 

-Nick

[Nanne118]

Nice to see we are going to get a HUD with a TVV, landing on carriers / landing in general is made much easier when you have symbology telling you exactly where your aircraft is going.

[Reflected]

Nice to see we are going to get a HUD with a TVV, landing on carriers / landing in general is made much easier when you have symbology telling you exactly where your aircraft is going.

 

You should never ever use the TVV to land on a carrier. The LSO will give you hell for "spotting the deck". You should fly the ball all the way down, it should come as a surprise when your Tomcat slams down on the deck ;)