FARP Trouble

[Mud]

Could any of you have a look at the included mission. I don't seem to be able to refuel at the FARP, though I think I should have all units present to be able to do so.

 

Quite probably I missed something :/ :helpsmilie:

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Mud

KA-50 Training.miz

[flanker0ne]

I have not looked at the track but to refuel and rearm you need a truck M-818 and a HEMMT, for blue side

KAMAZ ZIL for red side

In general it work with the FARP Ammo Dump and the FARP Tent

[Mud]

I don't even find that KAMAZ ZIL in the list for Russia. Mind you I put Russia as blue side, could that be a factor?

[Reaper6]

ATMZ-5 and/or -10 Is the fuel trucks for Russian FARPS

 

Reaper6

[Mud]

I have got the following at the FARP:

 

Ural 4320-31 Armored

Fuel Truck ATZ-10

CP SKP-11 ATC Mobile Command Post

[ajax]

That should work for a Red FARP. For a Blue FARP, regardless of the country, you will need the blue units FlankerOne listed in post #2, i.e. M-818 and HEMMT.

[Xxx]

I recently started doing my own Black Shark missions again. I had trouble with comms at my FARP and until I had all the units standardised from one country, I had no comms.

 

For a fully working FARP I had the following;

 

One country only i.e I began with UK and USA equipment mixed, which produced no comms, after standardising to just a single country all was ok.

1. FARP fuel depo

2. APC M1025 HMMWV

3. Transport M818

4. Tanker M978 HEMTT

5. FARP ammo storage

6. FARP Tent

7. FARP command post

8. and the Heliport of course.

 

Looks pretty darned impressive now and everything works!:D

[Mud]

I think I've found the problem, and it was indeed putting Russia on the blue side.

 

So in the mission where it doesn't work, I created a new mission putting Russia on the blue side and Turkey on the red side.

 

I just made another mission with Russia on the red side and there the FARP is working with the three vehicles I listed earlier.

 

Thanks for the input, folks.

 

Mud

[flanker0ne]

Be aware when move Russia and US from their respective side, the problems are not limited just to the FARP services but also the Satellite constellation (Navstar and Glonass).

You risk to have an almost unserviceable ABRIS.

Edited April 4, 2016 by flanker0ne

[Apocalypse31]

I have not looked at the track but to refuel and rearm you need a truck M-818 and a HEMMT, for blue side

KAMAZ ZIL for red side

In general it work with the FARP Ammo Dump and the FARP Tent

 

I have found that I need none of that.

 

I only need to link the FARP supply to a nearby friendly Airfield and the ground crew will be supplied.

[BitMaster]

Be aware when move Russia and US from their respective side, the problems are not limited just to the FARP services but also the Satellite constellation (Navstar and Glonass).

You risk to have an almost unserviceable ABRIS.

 

 

Aha, good to know !

 

I have never flown any serious battles other than the red side on 104th I have to admit so thatnever came to my attention.

 

Following your idea, using the Ka-50 on the blue side could cause some Abris and Glosnass

malfunction by definition ? granted Russia is RED and NATO forces are BLUE

 

just curious if that is really a game changing effect.

[Mud]

All I can say is that I did not notice any positional problems when flying a Russian KA-50 on the blue side during my 1h30 flight in the mission.

 

The only problem I had was the FARP ignoring me.

 

Just to be on the safe side though I'll make sure I keep Russia on the red side in my missions.

[Xxx]

Be aware when move Russia and US from their respective side, the problems are not limited just to the FARP services but also the Satellite constellation (Navstar and Glonass).

You risk to have an almost unserviceable ABRIS.

 

I am flying the Ka 50 as a British side helo. I have not seen any degradation in the sat nav....:smilewink:

 

Interesting though if you have seen this:)

[flanker0ne]

I have to say that the problem came up 4/5 years ago, with BS1.

It's not simply related with the nation you are flying with.

If someone want to check the situation was (if i remember correctly):

 

USA and Russia (the owner of the 2 satnav systems NAVSTAR and GLONASS) on the same side and you, with your Ka-50 on the other side, without any nation owner of a indipendent satnav.

Edited April 6, 2016 by flanker0ne

[Weta43]

From the depths of my memory - Can't you go to a page and select which of the 2 you want to use ?

 

Seems not.

7-97: MENU/GNSS sub-mode display seems to say that both NAVSTAR and GLONASS (US GPS & Russian) satellites are used at the same time.

Within the satellite constellation, GLONASS satellites are displayed with a square symbol , and NAVSTAR are displayed with a round symbol - . Satellites used for calculations are green colored and those that have been excluded from calculations are colored gray. The

 

Both seem to be coloured green, and the system says GPS/GLONASS.

 

Has anybody actually experienced not having satellites available with the current version of Black Shark ?

Edited April 6, 2016 by Weta43

[flanker0ne]

I managed to ask to the autor of that "ancient BS1" multiplayer missions, and he confirmed to me that at the time he moved Russia and US on the same blue side and Ukraine in the Red side.

 

The Ukrainian Ka-50 did not have any available satellite to hook with, like if they are behind a sort of encryption.

 

Needless to say, I consider this problem a feature and not a bug.

Edited April 7, 2016 by flanker0ne

[Looney]

It is true that GPS once held a cryptographic key that allowed friendly units to get much beter accuracy then civilian ones. This was dropped at some point in time since scrambling GPS now tends to put a lot of vehicles and people into panic mode.

 

With GPS being once behind a cryptographic wall, I don't see any reason for the GLONASS system to not have a similar thing, hence the issue what is described above appears.