0xDEADBEEF Posted May 27, 2016 Posted May 27, 2016 Do you have any information on when you will update the gazelle? I've just tried it again after installing todays update and the fm feels exactly the same as before ...
Pat01 Posted May 27, 2016 Posted May 27, 2016 Hi, We are preparing the next update, it will feature new weapons and several corrections. No change log yet. Thanks for your patience.
assafm25 Posted May 27, 2016 Posted May 27, 2016 Do you have any information on when you will update the gazelle? I've just tried it again after installing todays update and the fm feels exactly the same as before ... What is your problem with the FM? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] IAF Bell205 IAF Anafa ----------------------- DCS World Modules: A-10C, FC3, MiG-21BiS, F-86, P-51, KA-50, UH-1H Huey, Mi-8, M2000K, Gazal, Bf109, Mig-15, Hawk and NTTR ----------------------- My System - ASUS Maximus HERO iiiv, CoolMaster 120 Sadion Plus, I7 -6700K @4.0, G.Skill ddr4 16GB ram, Gigabyte GTX 1070 G1 , PSU Seasonic X-650W, OCZ 150 500Gb ssd drive X2, Seagate 7200 1T X2. -------------
0xDEADBEEF Posted May 27, 2016 Author Posted May 27, 2016 What is your problem with the FM? theres a bunch of points that I already pointed out in the bug reports and the other things that people have extensively discussed and a bunch of other minor thigns that I noticed but didn't report, because polychop has all my trust to get the problems right in reasonable time, and I am certain that the small things i did not report will get corrected by themselves as the fm progresses. Basically my problem with the FM is that it is very very early (first early access beta release, I do not expect it to be perfect :smilewink:)
0xDEADBEEF Posted May 27, 2016 Author Posted May 27, 2016 Hi, We are preparing the next update, it will feature new weapons and several corrections. No change log yet. Thanks for your patience. cool, thanks! All the patience in the world :)
OldE24 Posted May 27, 2016 Posted May 27, 2016 theres a bunch of points that I already pointed out in the bug reports and the other things that people have extensively discussed and a bunch of other minor thigns that I noticed but didn't report, because polychop has all my trust to get the problems right in reasonable time, and I am certain that the small things i did not report will get corrected by themselves as the fm progresses. Basically my problem with the FM is that it is very very early (first early access beta release, I do not expect it to be perfect :smilewink:) the only thing is the trimming and some AP/sas logic, from what i can tell.. 8700k@4.7 32GB ram, 1080TI hybrid SC2
Poly_Phil Posted May 27, 2016 Posted May 27, 2016 The FM will be corrected. We went to a french combat helicopter regiment to test out their full cabin sim and compare with the actual on DCS, and we had a gazelle "chief", with 1200hrs on the gazelle to test it out as well. 3 Consultant - Beta Tester http://www.polychop-sims.com
0xDEADBEEF Posted May 27, 2016 Author Posted May 27, 2016 the only thing is the trimming and some AP/sas logic, from what i can tell.. It's a bunch of more stuff than that. and you know, trimming in the real one works different than on a spring loaded stick ... I usually dont trim helicopters in sims but have my springs removed. Stick position is different relative to current state of flight (speed/attitude/power etc.) in every helicopter but the current gazelle. But this is not supposed to be a critique thread, Polychop apparently has all the info they need :thumbup: The FM will be corrected. We went to a french combat helicopter regiment to test out their full cabin sim and compare with the actual on DCS, and we had a gazelle "chief", with 1200hrs on the gazelle to test it out as well. I never had and still absolutely dont have a single doubt you guys will get it right :smilewink:
AVI-8 Posted May 28, 2016 Posted May 28, 2016 There was an update? This is done automatically I assume, or do I need to do this manually?
Evilducky Posted May 28, 2016 Posted May 28, 2016 Was there changes in this most recent 1.5.3 update? My engine keeps blowing on startup and its never done that. I have not changed my startup procedure at all.
nomdeplume Posted May 28, 2016 Posted May 28, 2016 (edited) There was an update? This is done automatically I assume, or do I need to do this manually? It will check for updates once every 24 hours when launched via the normal shortcut. You can also force an update check at any time by running the 'Update DCS World' shortcut. (Assuming the standalone version, of course - Steam version will be updated like other Steam products.) Was there changes in this most recent 1.5.3 update? My engine keeps blowing on startup and its never done that. I have not changed my startup procedure at all. Yep, turbine damage was added a few (open beta) updates ago, they got pushed to the release version yesterday. You need to increase the fuel flow slower, to keep the rotor RPM and turbine RPM needles in sync. So basically, you increase the fuel flow to get the turbine RPM to just beyond where the rotor engages (~ 30k), wait for the rotor to catch up, then gradually increase the flow rate til it's at full. If you just jam the fuel flow to full, the turbine will overspeed and rip itself apart. Or see here: http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=166770 Edited May 28, 2016 by nomdeplume
0xDEADBEEF Posted May 28, 2016 Author Posted May 28, 2016 There was an update? This is done automatically I assume, or do I need to do this manually? Usually friday there will be an update released for either version. You will notice by checking the very first forum (Updates and News), there's only official posts in there with more or less accurate release notes. That's why I'm asking (not everything makes it into the release notes)
Evilducky Posted May 28, 2016 Posted May 28, 2016 It will check for updates once every 24 hours when launched via the normal shortcut. You can also force an update check at any time by running the 'Update DCS World' shortcut. (Assuming the standalone version, of course - Steam version will be updated like other Steam products.) Yep, turbine damage was added a few (open beta) updates ago, they got pushed to the release version yesterday. You need to increase the fuel flow slower, to keep the rotor RPM and turbine RPM needles in sync. So basically, you increase the fuel flow to get the turbine RPM to just beyond where the rotor engages (~ 30k), wait for the rotor to catch up, then gradually increase the flow rate til it's at full. If you just jam the fuel flow to full, the turbine will overspeed and rip itself apart. Or see here: http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=166770 Interesting. Did not know that. Looks like theres going to be a few more small changes on the startup then looking at some videos. The ignition switch looks like its not modeled correctly right now. We shall see if that changes.
Mt5_Roie Posted May 28, 2016 Posted May 28, 2016 The ignition switch is correct for the M model. Different versions have different ignition switches. Interesting. Did not know that. Looks like theres going to be a few more small changes on the startup then looking at some videos. The ignition switch looks like its not modeled correctly right now. We shall see if that changes. Coder - Oculus Rift Guy - Court Jester
Evilducky Posted May 28, 2016 Posted May 28, 2016 really? interesting. Didnt know that. All the videos I watched, they only had the ignition switch flipped up till the T4 temp gauge hit 400ish then turned it back to neutral. Thats good to know then. The only videos I can find on the M startup are from DCS.
Mt5_Roie Posted May 28, 2016 Posted May 28, 2016 Remember that different version had different engines and different configurations. The L version will look different on the inside from the M version. Radios will be in different place and weapon panel will be added. It's a pretty diverse airframe. really? interesting. Didnt know that. All the videos I watched, they only had the ignition switch flipped up till the T4 temp gauge hit 400ish then turned it back to neutral. Thats good to know then. The only videos I can find on the M startup are from DCS. Coder - Oculus Rift Guy - Court Jester
atonium83 Posted May 28, 2016 Posted May 28, 2016 Remember that different version had different engines and different configurations. The L version will look different on the inside from the M version. Radios will be in different place and weapon panel will be added. It's a pretty diverse airframe. Can the L variant reach 300km/h or more ?
Mt5_Roie Posted May 28, 2016 Posted May 28, 2016 Most likely not unless you start really high and dive down quickly...but at that speed your more likely to break the helicopter. The L variant doesn't have the vivian, but it still has a camera up there for recon. Plus it has the rocket pod (which stay on the aircraft all the time) and the 20 mm gun (which also always stays on the aircraft. So weight wise it's comes close to balancing out with the M. So no crazy 300 km/h. Plus do you really want to go that fast 5m off the ground? Think of how you'll scare the poor kids on the ground. Can the L variant reach 300km/h or more ? Coder - Oculus Rift Guy - Court Jester
Cowboy10uk Posted May 29, 2016 Posted May 29, 2016 The FM will be corrected. We went to a french combat helicopter regiment to test out their full cabin sim and compare with the actual on DCS, and we had a gazelle "chief", with 1200hrs on the gazelle to test it out as well. Now that's some proper testing. Just wondering if you can tell us, how he found it? I'm absolutely loving the challenge, and damn it has certainly improved my flying of the Huey, as I'm now used to making smaller inputs. Beautiful aircraft and module. Cowboy10uk [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Fighter pilots make movies, Attack pilots make history, Helicopter pilots make heros. :pilotfly: Corsair 570x Crystal Case, Intel 8700K O/clocked to 4.8ghz, 32GB Vengeance RGB Pro DDR4 3200 MHZ Ram, 2 x 1TB M2 drives, 2 x 4TB Hard Drives, Nvidia EVGA GTX 1080ti FTW, Maximus x Hero MB, H150i Cooler, 6 x Corsair LL120 RGB Fans And a bloody awful Pilot :doh:
Poly_Phil Posted May 29, 2016 Posted May 29, 2016 He absolutely loved it. Especially the fact that it is so well modeled. There were 5 or 6 Gaz pilot behind the screen as he was flying, they were really impressed. He just was kind enough to point all the little details he found out to be wrong during the try. As we speak, we are working hard on correcting them. Consultant - Beta Tester http://www.polychop-sims.com
Dudikoff Posted May 30, 2016 Posted May 30, 2016 Glad to hear the feedback from the real pilots is so positive. I know it's not a priority, but I'm just curious if you could give any rough estimate on the Force Feedback support for the trim? Just to know if we're talking about a few months or it's too far ahead in the future. Thanks :) i386DX40@42 MHz w/i387 CP, 4 MB RAM (8*512 kB), Trident 8900C 1 MB w/16-bit RAMDAC ISA, Quantum 340 MB UDMA33, SB 16, DOS 6.22 w/QEMM + Win3.11CE, Quickshot 1btn 2axis, Numpad as hat. 2 FPH on a good day, 1 FPH avg. DISCLAIMER: My posts are still absolutely useless. Just finding excuses not to learn the F-14 (HB's Swansong?). Annoyed by my posts? Please consider donating. Once the target sum is reached, I'll be off to somewhere nice I promise not to post from. I'd buy that for a dollar!
Mt5_Roie Posted May 30, 2016 Posted May 30, 2016 It's higher on our list of things to work on. I've been working on getting Microsoft Sidewinder with force feedback to test with. I've ordered two and as soon as when they arrive we can start working on it. So sooner rather then later...but probably with be a month or two. Glad to hear the feedback from the real pilots is so positive. I know it's not a priority, but I'm just curious if you could give any rough estimate on the Force Feedback support for the trim? Just to know if we're talking about a few months or it's too far ahead in the future. Thanks :) Coder - Oculus Rift Guy - Court Jester
Dudikoff Posted May 30, 2016 Posted May 30, 2016 It's higher on our list of things to work on. I've been working on getting Microsoft Sidewinder with force feedback to test with. I've ordered two and as soon as when they arrive we can start working on it. So sooner rather then later...but probably with be a month or two. So, it's not way down on the list; good to hear that, thanks. i386DX40@42 MHz w/i387 CP, 4 MB RAM (8*512 kB), Trident 8900C 1 MB w/16-bit RAMDAC ISA, Quantum 340 MB UDMA33, SB 16, DOS 6.22 w/QEMM + Win3.11CE, Quickshot 1btn 2axis, Numpad as hat. 2 FPH on a good day, 1 FPH avg. DISCLAIMER: My posts are still absolutely useless. Just finding excuses not to learn the F-14 (HB's Swansong?). Annoyed by my posts? Please consider donating. Once the target sum is reached, I'll be off to somewhere nice I promise not to post from. I'd buy that for a dollar!
jeffdude Posted May 30, 2016 Posted May 30, 2016 It's higher on our list of things to work on. I've been working on getting Microsoft Sidewinder with force feedback to test with. I've ordered two and as soon as when they arrive we can start working on it. So sooner rather then later...but probably with be a month or two. Is it still possible to get a FFB joystick with any quality? It seems to be a highly demanded feature but the hardware hasn't been produced in years. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Santaklaus Posted May 30, 2016 Posted May 30, 2016 I use G940 by LOGITECH and it's wonderful for chopper, specially for magnetic trim (like real, stick stay in position after realease trim button). It's very sad there is not anymore in sale.
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