UncookedMeatloaf Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 Might be a dumb question, but is the F-5E capable of air-to-air refueling? I don't think it is but I want to make sure. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrjs Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 Might be a dumb question, but is the F-5E capable of air-to-air refueling? I don't think it is but I want to make sure. Thanks I may quote from WIkipedia: "After winning the International Fighter Aircraft competition in 1970, a program aimed at providing effective low-cost fighters to American allies, Northrop introduced the second-generation F-5E Tiger II in 1972. This upgrade included more powerful engines, higher fuel capacity, greater wing area and improved leading edge extensions for a better turn rate, optional air-to-air refueling, and improved avionics including air-to-air radar." There is also a photo of an F-5E air refuelling https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7e/Moroccan_F-5_jet.jpg But it seems an option so it may be in or not. i79900k @ 4,7 - Geforce RTX2080TI 11GB - 32Gbram - Win10 - TRackIr4 - Thrustmaster Warthog/Saitek Rudder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medic8ed Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 The version we are getting does not have air-to-air refueling. It was stated by one of the (I think) dev's in Belsimtek. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThorBrasil Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 (edited) I'm sad Belsimtek. She wants to bring the Maverick for the F-5E (I'm happy for it). But do not want to bring the aerial refueling probe. [ame] [/ame] [ame] [/ame] Edited May 27, 2016 by ThorBrasil |Motherboard|: Asus TUF Gaming X570-PLUS, |WaterCooler|: Corsair H115i Pro, |CPU|: AMD Ryzen 7 3800X, |RAM|: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB 3200MHz DDR4, |SSD|: Kingston A2000 500GB M.2 NVMe, |SSD|: Kingston 2.5´ 480GB UV400 SATA III, |SSHD|: Seagate Híbrido 2TB 7200RPM SATA III, |GPU|: MSI Gaming 980Ti, |Monitor|: LG UltraWide 34UM68, |Joystick 1|: Thrustmaster Hotas Warthog, |Joystick 2|: T.Flight Rudder Pedals, |Head Motion|: TrackIr 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladman Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 Hmmmm, that's limiting. i9 9900K @ 5.1Ghz - ASUS Maximus Hero XI - 32GB 4266 DDR4 RAM - ASUS RTX 2080Ti - 1 TB NVME - NZXT Kraken 62 Watercooling System - Thrustmaster Warthog Hotas (Virpil Base) - MFG Crosswind Pedals - Pimax 5K+ VFA-25 Fist Of The Fleet [sigpic]http://forums.eagle.ru/signaturepics/sigpic99190_2.gif[/sigpic] Virtual Carrier Strike Group 1 | Discord Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medic8ed Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 While I do think it would be cool to have it, I'm still going to have so much fun with this module! Can't wait for it to come out and start buzzing the Vegas strip! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AG-51_Razor Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 Lack of aerial refueling capability will certainly not keep me from buying this module ( I already have ) but it would have been sooooo much more enjoyable with that capability!! :pilotfly: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThorBrasil Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 Lack of aerial refueling capability will certainly not keep me from buying this module ( I already have ) but it would have been sooooo much more enjoyable with that capability!! :pilotfly: +1 |Motherboard|: Asus TUF Gaming X570-PLUS, |WaterCooler|: Corsair H115i Pro, |CPU|: AMD Ryzen 7 3800X, |RAM|: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB 3200MHz DDR4, |SSD|: Kingston A2000 500GB M.2 NVMe, |SSD|: Kingston 2.5´ 480GB UV400 SATA III, |SSHD|: Seagate Híbrido 2TB 7200RPM SATA III, |GPU|: MSI Gaming 980Ti, |Monitor|: LG UltraWide 34UM68, |Joystick 1|: Thrustmaster Hotas Warthog, |Joystick 2|: T.Flight Rudder Pedals, |Head Motion|: TrackIr 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcbak Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 No AAR doesn't sweeten the deal. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]WIN 10, i7 10700, 32GB DDR4, RTX 2080 Super, Crucial 1TB SSD, Samsung EVO 850 500GB SSD, TM Warthog with 10cm extension, TIR5, MFG Crosswind Pedals, Wheelstand Pro, LG 40" 4K TV, Razer Black Widow Ultimate KB[/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev2go Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 (edited) because only modernized F5E's have that capability. the idea is to not give us a F16 lite but an older generation F5E with older avionics to compete with mig21bis. ultimatley the F5E3's radar ( an/apq 159) and RWR are more sophisticated than the that of the mig21. id argue gunsight is better too because it has a range bar within the reticule ,which decreases as you get closer to target. buts its defenitely close enough to the mig21bis and something comparable to 3rd generation tech. Edited May 28, 2016 by Kev2go Build: Windows 10 64 bit Pro Case/Tower: Corsair Graphite 760tm ,Asus Strix Z790 Motherboard, Intel Core i7 12700k ,Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 64gb ram (3600 mhz) , (Asus strix oc edition) Nvidia RTX 3080 12gb , Evga g2 850 watt psu, Hardrives ; Samsung 970 EVo, , Samsung evo 860 pro 1 TB SSD, Samsung evo 850 pro 1TB SSD, WD 1TB HDD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladman Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 It seems odd the E didn't have a fuel probe. The CF-5A which came into service in 1968 had the ability, I would wonder why they didn't have it on the E version which came out a few years later. Maybe I'm not looking up the info correctly. i9 9900K @ 5.1Ghz - ASUS Maximus Hero XI - 32GB 4266 DDR4 RAM - ASUS RTX 2080Ti - 1 TB NVME - NZXT Kraken 62 Watercooling System - Thrustmaster Warthog Hotas (Virpil Base) - MFG Crosswind Pedals - Pimax 5K+ VFA-25 Fist Of The Fleet [sigpic]http://forums.eagle.ru/signaturepics/sigpic99190_2.gif[/sigpic] Virtual Carrier Strike Group 1 | Discord Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Custard Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 It seems odd the E didn't have a fuel probe. The CF-5A which came into service in 1968 had the ability, I would wonder why they didn't have it on the E version which came out a few years later. Maybe I'm not looking up the info correctly. The base F-5A didn't have a probe either. Optional extras like refueling probes and radar warning equipment were added at the customers request, they weren't standard. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattebubben Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 (edited) It seems odd the E didn't have a fuel probe. The CF-5A which came into service in 1968 had the ability, I would wonder why they didn't have it on the E version which came out a few years later. Maybe I'm not looking up the info correctly. The Refuling Probe was Optional. So if the User wanted a Refuling probe their F-5Es would be fitted with Refuling probes before Delivery. The Probe was optional with the CF-5 as well. Edited May 28, 2016 by mattebubben Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pepin1234 Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 I'm sad Belsimtek. She wants to bring the Maverick for the F-5E (I'm happy for it) Where did you get this info? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattebubben Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 Where did you get this info? Well they have stated they would be willing to add the Maverick if they got good information on how it was used with the F-5E (How the AGM-65 capable display looked / worked etc) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pepin1234 Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 Well they have stated they would be willing to add the Maverick if they got good information on how it was used with the F-5E (How the AGM-65 capable display looked / worked etc) Ok, sound good. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncookedMeatloaf Posted May 28, 2016 Author Share Posted May 28, 2016 How does the gunsight in the F-5E compare to the gunsight in the MiG-21? I know that the MiG's gunsight is a hassle to use sometimes, especially for a2a gunnery. Will the F-5E's gunsight be more stable and accurate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Custard Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 How does the gunsight in the F-5E compare to the gunsight in the MiG-21? I know that the MiG's gunsight is a hassle to use sometimes, especially for a2a gunnery. Will the F-5E's gunsight be more stable and accurate? Most of the difficulty in using the MiGs cannon I find is it's terrible muzzle velocity resulting in the pipper flying off the sight glass at even low G. The M39 on the F-5 has a much greater velocity, more similar to the vulcan on the F-15 so I guess it'll be easier to hit with. However as to the ease of use and ability of the radar to keep lock I cannot say, the manual makes it sound good enough but who knows how BST will actually model it. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladman Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 The Refuling Probe was Optional. So if the User wanted a Refuling probe their F-5Es would be fitted with Refuling probes before Delivery. The Probe was optional with the CF-5 as well. A slight on your part. The CF-5A was built in Canada under license from Northrop by Canadair. There was no option in the Canadian version. i9 9900K @ 5.1Ghz - ASUS Maximus Hero XI - 32GB 4266 DDR4 RAM - ASUS RTX 2080Ti - 1 TB NVME - NZXT Kraken 62 Watercooling System - Thrustmaster Warthog Hotas (Virpil Base) - MFG Crosswind Pedals - Pimax 5K+ VFA-25 Fist Of The Fleet [sigpic]http://forums.eagle.ru/signaturepics/sigpic99190_2.gif[/sigpic] Virtual Carrier Strike Group 1 | Discord Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greekbull Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 Very excited for the F-5. Hopefully down the road sometime they might be able to add Aerial Refuelling as its a big part of what we do now. AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D | ASUS Crosshair Hero X670E | 64GB G Skill Trident Z DDR5 6000 | Nvidia RTX 4090 FE| Samsung EVO Plus 6 TB M.2 PCIe SSDs | TM Hornet Stick/WinWing Hornet Throttle and MIP | VPC T-50 Stick Base | TM TPR Rudder Pedals W/Damper | Varjo Aero/Pimax Crystal VFA-25 Fist of the Fleet Carrier Strike Group One(CSG-1) Discord Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThorBrasil Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 Very excited for the F-5. Hopefully down the road sometime they might be able to add Aerial Refuelling as its a big part of what we do now. This would prolong the life of the module. It would be one more thing to do. :joystick: Belsimtek I just bought the F-5E Tiger II. Please add the refueling probe. Thank you! :thumbup: |Motherboard|: Asus TUF Gaming X570-PLUS, |WaterCooler|: Corsair H115i Pro, |CPU|: AMD Ryzen 7 3800X, |RAM|: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB 3200MHz DDR4, |SSD|: Kingston A2000 500GB M.2 NVMe, |SSD|: Kingston 2.5´ 480GB UV400 SATA III, |SSHD|: Seagate Híbrido 2TB 7200RPM SATA III, |GPU|: MSI Gaming 980Ti, |Monitor|: LG UltraWide 34UM68, |Joystick 1|: Thrustmaster Hotas Warthog, |Joystick 2|: T.Flight Rudder Pedals, |Head Motion|: TrackIr 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncookedMeatloaf Posted May 28, 2016 Author Share Posted May 28, 2016 Another question (not related to refueling), but will the F-5E be able to carry countermeasures such as chaff and flares? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev2go Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 Another question (not related to refueling), but will the F-5E be able to carry countermeasures such as chaff and flares? yes suu-25c dispenser. alhough it seems to be labled just "flare" dispenser. So it seems it drop flares for IR missiles but nothing said about Chaffs against SAR guided missiles. http://www.belsimtek.com/news/1558/ Build: Windows 10 64 bit Pro Case/Tower: Corsair Graphite 760tm ,Asus Strix Z790 Motherboard, Intel Core i7 12700k ,Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 64gb ram (3600 mhz) , (Asus strix oc edition) Nvidia RTX 3080 12gb , Evga g2 850 watt psu, Hardrives ; Samsung 970 EVo, , Samsung evo 860 pro 1 TB SSD, Samsung evo 850 pro 1TB SSD, WD 1TB HDD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncookedMeatloaf Posted May 28, 2016 Author Share Posted May 28, 2016 yes suu-25c dispenser. alhough it seems to be labled just "flare" dispenser. So it seems it drop flares for IR missiles but nothing said about Chaffs against SAR guided missiles. http://www.belsimtek.com/news/1558/ I was under the impression that the SUU-25C was a parachute illumination flare dispenser, not a countermeasures dispenser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 Indeed, SUU-25 is an illum flare dispenser, not a countermeasures dispenser. Spoiler Intel 13900K (5Ghz), 64Gb 6400Mhz, MSi RTX 3090, Schiit Modi/Magi DAC/AMP, ASUS PG43UQ, Hotas Warthog, RealSimulator FSSB3, 2x TM MFDs + DCS MFDs, MFG Crosswinds, Elgato Steamdeck XL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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