D4n Posted June 12, 2016 Author Posted June 12, 2016 Ok I ordered the this one http://www.alpenfoehn.de/en/cpu-cooler/bennevis and rlly hope I can reach 4.4 GHz (stock clk +1 GHz I realized xD ) without going above 70 °C and without too much fan noise... :) DCS Wishlist: 2K11 Krug SA-4 Ganef SAM, VR-TrackIR icons next to player names in score-chart PvP: 100+ manual player-kills with Stingers on a well known dynamic campaign server - 100+ VTOL FARP landings & 125+ hours AV-8B, F-14 crew, royal dutch airforce F-16C - PvP campaigns since 2013 DCS server-admins: please adhere to a common sense gaming industry policy as most server admins throughout the industry do. (After all there's enough hostility on the internet already which really doesn't help anyone. Thanks.) Dell Visor VR headset, Ryzen 5 5600 (6C/12T), RTX 4060 - basic DCS-community rule-of-thumb: Don't believe bad things that a PvP pilot claims about another PvP pilot without having analyzed the existing evidence
D4n Posted June 12, 2016 Author Posted June 12, 2016 Btw. the DCS was NOT lagging anymore when doing the OC in the BIOS, so it was too low voltage for CPU and DCS didn't like it... :P DCS Wishlist: 2K11 Krug SA-4 Ganef SAM, VR-TrackIR icons next to player names in score-chart PvP: 100+ manual player-kills with Stingers on a well known dynamic campaign server - 100+ VTOL FARP landings & 125+ hours AV-8B, F-14 crew, royal dutch airforce F-16C - PvP campaigns since 2013 DCS server-admins: please adhere to a common sense gaming industry policy as most server admins throughout the industry do. (After all there's enough hostility on the internet already which really doesn't help anyone. Thanks.) Dell Visor VR headset, Ryzen 5 5600 (6C/12T), RTX 4060 - basic DCS-community rule-of-thumb: Don't believe bad things that a PvP pilot claims about another PvP pilot without having analyzed the existing evidence
Pilotasso Posted June 12, 2016 Posted June 12, 2016 low voltage doesn't cause pauses, it causes bluescreens. .
Hadwell Posted June 12, 2016 Posted June 12, 2016 low voltage doesn't cause pauses, it causes bluescreens. If the cpu becomes unstable, it can cause freezes w/o bsod, but it would have to be right on the edge, and you'd still get lots of crashes, yeah. My youtube channel Remember: the fun is in the fight, not the kill, so say NO! to the AIM-120. System specs:ROG Maximus XI Hero, Intel I9 9900K, 32GB 3200MHz ram, EVGA 1080ti FTW3, Samsung 970 EVO 1TB NVME, 27" Samsung SA350 1080p, 27" BenQ GW2765HT 1440p, ASUS ROG PG278Q 1440p G-SYNC Controls: Saitekt rudder pedals,Virpil MongoosT50 throttle, warBRD base, CM2 stick, TrackIR 5+pro clip, WMR VR headset. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
D4n Posted June 19, 2016 Author Posted June 19, 2016 Ok, installed the cooler today (removed instel stock cooler, removed old thermal paste from CPU, applied new thermal paste, removed paper from cooler backplate and from cooler (so the glue on the backplate keeps on the motherboard), and installed the cooler) now getting 67°C max. under medium/heavy load (CPU instense game). I set the BIOS already from "silent" cpu cooler-fan mode to "standard", should I try "turbo" mode? I think the my new cooler has a very silent fan, so I wouldn't hear it too loud on turbo, and maybe I can get to 4.5 GHz ? (Now set to max. 4.0 GHz) What do you say? DCS Wishlist: 2K11 Krug SA-4 Ganef SAM, VR-TrackIR icons next to player names in score-chart PvP: 100+ manual player-kills with Stingers on a well known dynamic campaign server - 100+ VTOL FARP landings & 125+ hours AV-8B, F-14 crew, royal dutch airforce F-16C - PvP campaigns since 2013 DCS server-admins: please adhere to a common sense gaming industry policy as most server admins throughout the industry do. (After all there's enough hostility on the internet already which really doesn't help anyone. Thanks.) Dell Visor VR headset, Ryzen 5 5600 (6C/12T), RTX 4060 - basic DCS-community rule-of-thumb: Don't believe bad things that a PvP pilot claims about another PvP pilot without having analyzed the existing evidence
Cibit Posted June 19, 2016 Posted June 19, 2016 Get watercooling :) i5 8600k@5.2Ghz, Asus Prime A Z370, 32Gb DDR4 3000, GTX1080 SC, Oculus Rift CV1, Modded TM Warthog Modded X52 Collective, Jetseat, W10 Pro 64 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Adding JTAC Guide //My Vid's//229th AHB
D4n Posted June 19, 2016 Author Posted June 19, 2016 More exensive (I got this cooler for 25 € ! Water coolers cost 50-60 € in Germany...) and if pump fails, well... trouble... DCS Wishlist: 2K11 Krug SA-4 Ganef SAM, VR-TrackIR icons next to player names in score-chart PvP: 100+ manual player-kills with Stingers on a well known dynamic campaign server - 100+ VTOL FARP landings & 125+ hours AV-8B, F-14 crew, royal dutch airforce F-16C - PvP campaigns since 2013 DCS server-admins: please adhere to a common sense gaming industry policy as most server admins throughout the industry do. (After all there's enough hostility on the internet already which really doesn't help anyone. Thanks.) Dell Visor VR headset, Ryzen 5 5600 (6C/12T), RTX 4060 - basic DCS-community rule-of-thumb: Don't believe bad things that a PvP pilot claims about another PvP pilot without having analyzed the existing evidence
cichlidfan Posted June 19, 2016 Posted June 19, 2016 More exensive (I got this cooler for 25 € ! Water coolers cost 50-60 € in Germany...) and if pump fails, well... trouble... Exactly. ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup:
Hadwell Posted June 19, 2016 Posted June 19, 2016 if the pump fails, no trouble, there's still enough cooling for you to use your machine long enough to order a new cooler or pump. and cpus shut down on their own if they overheat now, it's not like back in 1998... My youtube channel Remember: the fun is in the fight, not the kill, so say NO! to the AIM-120. System specs:ROG Maximus XI Hero, Intel I9 9900K, 32GB 3200MHz ram, EVGA 1080ti FTW3, Samsung 970 EVO 1TB NVME, 27" Samsung SA350 1080p, 27" BenQ GW2765HT 1440p, ASUS ROG PG278Q 1440p G-SYNC Controls: Saitekt rudder pedals,Virpil MongoosT50 throttle, warBRD base, CM2 stick, TrackIR 5+pro clip, WMR VR headset. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
D4n Posted June 19, 2016 Author Posted June 19, 2016 if the pump fails, no trouble, there's still enough cooling for you to use your machine long enough to order a new cooler or pump. and cpus shut down on their own if they overheat now, it's not like back in 1998... 1998 ? I was 6 years old back then, getting teached on using Win 95 by a friend... xD DCS Wishlist: 2K11 Krug SA-4 Ganef SAM, VR-TrackIR icons next to player names in score-chart PvP: 100+ manual player-kills with Stingers on a well known dynamic campaign server - 100+ VTOL FARP landings & 125+ hours AV-8B, F-14 crew, royal dutch airforce F-16C - PvP campaigns since 2013 DCS server-admins: please adhere to a common sense gaming industry policy as most server admins throughout the industry do. (After all there's enough hostility on the internet already which really doesn't help anyone. Thanks.) Dell Visor VR headset, Ryzen 5 5600 (6C/12T), RTX 4060 - basic DCS-community rule-of-thumb: Don't believe bad things that a PvP pilot claims about another PvP pilot without having analyzed the existing evidence
PureEvil Posted June 19, 2016 Posted June 19, 2016 Water coolers cost 50-60 € in Germany you're talking about cheap (or used) AIO solution... watercooling guys are talking about is something more like 50-60 € for used decent waterblock for cpu... and another 250€ for tubes, pump, rad and fittings. thats the way to go if want to OC and have your cpu cool and quiet :P btw, got my 2600k running at 5GHz, not hitting 70C under load with just 2 fans at 2/3 of the speed :smartass: 1 STEAM asus p8z68-v gen3, 2600k@4,5ghz(w/c), 16gb, 1080ti(w/c), ch fighterstick/gvl224-4000-8, ch pro throttle, Oculus Rift CV1+Touch, thrustmaster tx
BitMaster Posted June 20, 2016 Posted June 20, 2016 You can run the 2600k non-overclocked for quite some time without a pump if your cooling block has enough passive cooling material...copper for example. Treat that 2600k right.. I manged to squeeze mine up to 5.245MHz tonight by accident ..and it worked for half a round in the Ka on 104th and then Win10 told me it needs to catch some data and reboot, not even froze with BSOD LoL. The Voltages are a tricky thing, I cannot set my voltages in Bios as low as from GUI. and hell yeah...it booted Win10 with 5.14x and 5.24x MHz just fine from oc in Bios, just the Volatges were astronomical...1.5V for 5.2x not even wanna try prime95 for 3 seconds ;) Never tried the BusClk before, but it worked flawless till 103.1x50 ;) 1 Gigabyte Aorus X570S Master - Ryzen 5900X - Gskill 64GB 3200/CL14@3600/CL14 - Sapphire Nitro+ 7800XT - 4x Samsung 980Pro 1TB - 1x Samsung 870 Evo 1TB - 1x SanDisc 120GB SSD - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT@9x120mm Noctua F12 - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus XG27ACG QHD 180Hz - Corsair K70 RGB Pro - Win11 Pro/Linux - Phanteks Evolv-X
D4n Posted June 20, 2016 Author Posted June 20, 2016 CPU-Z tells me that my P8P67 pumps 1.330 V into the CPU... :P Getting 4.4 GHz with max 70°C on air cooling!! (Do u think the thermal paste quality matters? Cause it is some no-name thermal paste that was included with the cooler that I applied to the CPU... was very little paste, but I heard somewhere the less the better) 1 DCS Wishlist: 2K11 Krug SA-4 Ganef SAM, VR-TrackIR icons next to player names in score-chart PvP: 100+ manual player-kills with Stingers on a well known dynamic campaign server - 100+ VTOL FARP landings & 125+ hours AV-8B, F-14 crew, royal dutch airforce F-16C - PvP campaigns since 2013 DCS server-admins: please adhere to a common sense gaming industry policy as most server admins throughout the industry do. (After all there's enough hostility on the internet already which really doesn't help anyone. Thanks.) Dell Visor VR headset, Ryzen 5 5600 (6C/12T), RTX 4060 - basic DCS-community rule-of-thumb: Don't believe bad things that a PvP pilot claims about another PvP pilot without having analyzed the existing evidence
PureEvil Posted June 20, 2016 Posted June 20, 2016 CPU-Z tells me that my P8P67 pumps 1.330 V into the CPU... :P Getting 4.4 GHz with max 70°C on air cooling!! (Do u think the thermal paste quality matters? Cause it is some no-name thermal paste that was included with the cooler that I applied to the CPU... was very little paste, but I heard somewhere the less the better) http://overclocking.guide/thermal-paste-roundup-2015-47-products-tested-with-air-cooling-and-liquid-nitrogen-ln2/ STEAM asus p8z68-v gen3, 2600k@4,5ghz(w/c), 16gb, 1080ti(w/c), ch fighterstick/gvl224-4000-8, ch pro throttle, Oculus Rift CV1+Touch, thrustmaster tx
BitMaster Posted July 8, 2016 Posted July 8, 2016 CPU-Z tells me that my P8P67 pumps 1.330 V into the CPU... :P Getting 4.4 GHz with max 70°C on air cooling!! (Do u think the thermal paste quality matters? Cause it is some no-name thermal paste that was included with the cooler that I applied to the CPU... was very little paste, but I heard somewhere the less the better) Cooling paste does matter a lot if you want to push it to its limits. The one I use is a cermic compound that needs a few days and cold/hot cycles to fully settle and give max cooling performance. If I was you, I'd get my a AIO watercooling like Corsair if you want it quick or invest in a modular system and have the door open for later additions like watercooled GPU and/or mainboard. Also you can choose any kind and size of radiotor(s) and pump(s). https://hardforum.com/threads/official-asus-p8p67-series-overclocking-guide-and-information.1578110/ I can highly recommend this thread that goes ito detail and specific versions of the SandyBridge CPU as they differ quite a lot with changes in version. I was lucky to get the best of the best 2600k ever made, D2-7 Stepping, runs up to 5.250GHz, I am running it on 5.0 in DCS now for the first weeks after using it at 4.8 for a year. It now fires flawlessly even higher ( fully burned in ) ;) Check your version and if you are lucky you have a late 2011 version, D2-7 as well with lots of potential. I have a relative high voltage jump to stay stable between 4.8 that only needs 1.35V for the most brutal work ( prime95 + kombustor draws over 630w when both chips are overclocked ). For anything higher than 4.8x I need 1.40 Volts and considerably higher temps when stress testing. In DCS the temp "only" jumos from 44-49°C to 49-56°C, which is still very acceptable. I would just NOT run a stresstest for 2h not because it would fail, because it would do it and thus stress the hardware to an extend that makes me feel bad, I dont wanna ruin it ! It also WON'T for sone reason go beyond 4.8 from within Win10, I have to boot the 4.8x+ speed, say 5.0, and then go to Asus GUI and set back Voltage from 1.49V to 1.40V or Asus pop-up warns you every minute your Vcore is exceeding 1.56xxVolts...up to over 1.6xVolts...ehhhhh :( I tried in small steps and it seems 1.40V is the sweet spot were it still doesnt wanna reboot and collect DAta ( no BSOD or freeze usually, very very seldom, it pops up a Win10 error msg and then reboots...makes me think its kinda windows thing too being too picky ) but stays cool enuff to use it. Also, if the outside temp is a brutal 35°C or above 100°F you DON'T do this "at the edge" thing as your water is like 10-15°C waremer to begin with...and in the end we all cool with air, even wc-systems. Unless you go LN air temp is the base line you begin with. I have played with other CPU options as well but none seems to change the behaviour of the CPU dramatically, either way. I have Speedstep disabled for a few days...no change...other than more heat and min base clock of 3.4 instead of 1.6GHz. What is maybe good to know is, that the OC functions in your Bios should NOT be at the far edfe setting to achieve the highest speeds, like LLC and CPU Max Profile ( whatever those functions are labeled ). When I went to my 5.25GHz journey I read another article specifically for the 2600k d2-7 towards 5+ GHz...and they say take those settings back to modest, the first 1/3 of the range given....and it still worked...with less stress on the HW as I had most of them on MAX or 1 notch below. Must be said, the CPU works to 5.25 on all those settings, just the temps and stress might be lower oif you settle with lesser settings and try that. If it works, less is always better in OC, few excemptions. I would not run prime95 on 5.25GHz...my cooling would not be sufficient !!! 100% garanty. I also would not play on 5.25GHz, NO WAY...but it tells me that 5.0GHz is 250 away from the current limit and I can "safely" use it at 5.0GHz, even if the CPU is stressed out in VMware or iTunes, Handbreak or whatever utilizes many or all cores you have until the job is done. For the past 2 weeks the machine runs almost 24/7 at 5.0 with gaming/work/video and multiple users flawlessly ( my son and me game on it). Best thing ever, I got that CPU/MoBo as a gift for free, it was replaced and put to junk HAHA !!!! The 2600-k / SandyBridge are still awesome CPU's, with 5.0 I dont even fear a comparison vs. a Devil's Canyon CPU in stock or modest OC. Only A Devil's Canyon at same frequecies would amke we wanna change now...if it comes dirt cheap ;) I would like to know what this one guy with a 4.9GHz 4790k and a good GPU can shuffle in 2.x NTTR. Must be mind blowing speed !!! :) Bit Gigabyte Aorus X570S Master - Ryzen 5900X - Gskill 64GB 3200/CL14@3600/CL14 - Sapphire Nitro+ 7800XT - 4x Samsung 980Pro 1TB - 1x Samsung 870 Evo 1TB - 1x SanDisc 120GB SSD - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT@9x120mm Noctua F12 - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus XG27ACG QHD 180Hz - Corsair K70 RGB Pro - Win11 Pro/Linux - Phanteks Evolv-X
BitMaster Posted July 8, 2016 Posted July 8, 2016 BTW....I can read 4 different Volatges applied in 4 diff apps same time.... What I refer to is the Voltage shown in Asus Gui for OC, not Asus Sensors tab, not CPU-Z, not HW-Mon....they all differ a bit in Voltages shown. Gigabyte Aorus X570S Master - Ryzen 5900X - Gskill 64GB 3200/CL14@3600/CL14 - Sapphire Nitro+ 7800XT - 4x Samsung 980Pro 1TB - 1x Samsung 870 Evo 1TB - 1x SanDisc 120GB SSD - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT@9x120mm Noctua F12 - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus XG27ACG QHD 180Hz - Corsair K70 RGB Pro - Win11 Pro/Linux - Phanteks Evolv-X
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