Open Source Virtual Reality - OSVR and DCS

[wormeaten]

Asynchronous Time Warp. Its a software solution that reducrs jitter on lower and unstable framerates. It is a must for dcs.

 

rgr. Thanks.

[DerekSpeare]

OSVR HDK2 Releases for preorders today:

 

http://www.razerzone.com/store/hdk2

 

We may get one of these to test on another machine.

[dot]

preordered, although It better have RGB screens for this money!

in UK price is £399, in EU I've heard it's €499! :mad:

Edited July 21, 2016 by dot

[Chivas]

Having a higher res display is great, BUT its a combination of a number of factors that makes it a decent experience. How much computer power is required to drive the higher resolution display at 90fps. I'd be very leery of this product until I heard how well it runs DCS. There is a definite reason that Vive and Oculus settled on their current display resolutions. Even with these lower resolutions is not easy to run complex flight sims, and the only reason its just satisfactory is the ATW software. A higher res and no ATW would probably make it an almost unplayable experience. Atleast we knew it was possible to run DCS with the Rift and Vive as DCS was implementing support for these headsets. I hope this new prototype headset works well, as competition is a great thing, but I have serious doubts.

[wormeaten]

Having a higher res display is great, BUT its a combination of a number of factors that makes it a decent experience. How much computer power is required to drive the higher resolution display at 90fps. I'd be very leery of this product until I heard how well it runs DCS. There is a definite reason that Vive and Oculus settled on their current display resolutions. Even with these lower resolutions is not easy to run complex flight sims, and the only reason its just satisfactory is the ATW software. A higher res and no ATW would probably make it an almost unplayable experience. Atleast we knew it was possible to run DCS with the Rift and Vive as DCS was implementing support for these headsets. I hope this new prototype headset works well, as competition is a great thing, but I have serious doubts.

 

As I understand this is display feature and not effecting on computer performance so should work with similar performance on computer.

[dot]

It's the same resolution as Rift or Vive, so having RGB screen (2x blue and red subpixels) means that you get better image quality for the same performance.

[Chivas]

It's the same resolution as Rift or Vive, so having RGB screen (2x blue and red subpixels) means that you get better image quality for the same performance.

 

Your right about the res Dot, I had a brain fart, and agree that there is far more than just Resolution in these current headsets that defines the quality of image. The RGB screen might have better image quality, but it begs the question why Oculus didn't put an RGB display into their headsets. There are always trade offs, cost wasn't an issue, and they had Samsung as a partner. As it is Samsung created a smaller custom higher fill rate display for the Rift, but at the cost of FOV, as image quality is more important than FOV in these early consumer versions.

[Gordon861]

I'm really hoping they get some of this equipment onto the high street or even better allow you to hire a unit for a couple of weeks to see how it works for you.

 

I don't mind paying a bit to try one but £400+ on the chance I will get on with it is a little concerning.

[wormeaten]

Did anyone get his HDK2 already? Whot is verdict?

[Smith]

I'm still awaiting a confirmation for the RGB displays and on reddit there are mentioned a lot of problems and i couldn't find any review on the HDK 2 so I'm still waiting with ordering one :noexpression:

[Farlander]

Like anticipated, it seems like people have bought the HDK and expected it to be a consumer product and didn't read and follow instructions made by several users on how to set it up properly.. Most threads popping up are on issues another thread right below it explains how to fix..

 

Can't wait to hear some views on the screen and lenses. Firmware for head tracking was upgraded, and they reported it is much better now

[Simon1279]

Like anticipated, it seems like people have bought the HDK and expected it to be a consumer product and didn't read and follow instructions made by several users on how to set it up properly.. Most threads popping up are on issues another thread right below it explains how to fix..

 

Can't wait to hear some views on the screen and lenses. Firmware for head tracking was upgraded, and they reported it is much better now

 

I own the vive now and an upgraded version of the HDK, i've upgraded the 1.4 with the 2.0 upgrade kit and it looks basically the same as the vive except for the FOV, vive has more of it, at least it gives that impression, BTW i may suggest the HDK2 if you don't mind about having something that isn't very user friendly but even not complicated, as i wrote previously it is much more difficult learning to fly the A10C

 

RGB monitor confirmed

Better tracking confirmed thanks to the new improved firmware

 

PROS: 399$ 499€ 499£

 

Personally i prefeir the VIVE because of better FOV and tracking system which is a lot better also compared to trackIR 5

Edited September 16, 2016 by Simon1279

[Spectre1986]

Any updates?

 

I am about to pull the trigger on a HDK2 but I need to know if it will work with DCS standalone (non-steam). I have purchased too many planes that wont transfer to the steam version and this sim is the primary reason I am looking at the HDK2. I used the oculus DK2 and it was amazing in DCS world, but the screen was bad resolution. Secondary games/sims would be FSX, X-Plane, War Thunder, Elite Dangerous, and maybe some racing games :joystick: :pilotfly:.

 

Is the tracking fixed well enough to be, at least, as accurate as the Oculus DK2? Does it having an RGB screen actually make a noticeable difference over the CV1 and Vive? Will my i7 920 oced to 3.8 Ghz, 12 GB of ram, and GTX 1070 be enough to power this without lag (I am OK with turning down some graphics settings)? Does the HDK2 have any kind of async timewarp tech (or is it planned) that will help if my computer is underpowered? There is so little information out there about this headset used in DCS...

[wormeaten]

Will my i7 920 oced to 3.8 Ghz, 12 GB of ram, and GTX 1070 be enough to power this without lag (I am OK with turning down some graphics settings)? Does the HDK2 have any kind of async timewarp tech (or is it planned) that will help if my computer is underpowered? There is so little information out there about this headset used in DCS...

 

GTX 1070 and 1080 have bottleneck on older CPU like your. For 1070 you need to upgrade MB, RAM and CPU. I7 will not make difference over I5 in DCS and similar CPU intense game who make 75% work on one core. Just be sure your future CPU have good overcloacking potential and put it on stable overcloaqck on 4.3 - 4.5 Ghz.

 

If you want to stay with your I7 920 than max GPU is GTX 980ti as single card.

[Spectre1986]

I would like to know your source for that bottleneck information. Not that I don't believe you, I just have been curious about that for a few years now. My HDK2 should be here early next week, I will post back and let you guys know how it goes. I just got back from Best Buy, I tried out their Rift CV1 demo and I had a DK2 for a year so I can compare it to those two. I tried and failed to get the guy to install DCS World for the demo, which was pretty lame. I am probably going to pick up a 1060 and overclock it instead of the planned 1070.

Edited October 7, 2016 by Spectre1986

[wormeaten]

Google is your best friend.

There is several sources and benchmark videos on youtube where same graphic card have different performance on new or older generation of CPU.

 

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=1070+bottleneck

[Simon1279]

I am about to pull the trigger on a HDK2 but I need to know if it will work with DCS standalone (non-steam). I have purchased too many planes that wont transfer to the steam version and this sim is the primary reason I am looking at the HDK2. I used the oculus DK2 and it was amazing in DCS world, but the screen was bad resolution. Secondary games/sims would be FSX, X-Plane, War Thunder, Elite Dangerous, and maybe some racing games :joystick: :pilotfly:.

 

Is the tracking fixed well enough to be, at least, as accurate as the Oculus DK2? Does it having an RGB screen actually make a noticeable difference over the CV1 and Vive? Will my i7 920 oced to 3.8 Ghz, 12 GB of ram, and GTX 1070 be enough to power this without lag (I am OK with turning down some graphics settings)? Does the HDK2 have any kind of async timewarp tech (or is it planned) that will help if my computer is underpowered? There is so little information out there about this headset used in DCS...

 

You don't need DCS installed on Steam, you just need SteamVR application installed on Steam and then you can play your SA DCS installation, I've never had DCS installed on Steam also because i'm not very Steam friendly

[wormeaten]

I would like to know your source for that bottleneck information. Not that I don't believe you, I just have been curious about that for a few years now. My HDK2 should be here early next week, I will post back and let you guys know how it goes. I just got back from Best Buy, I tried out their Rift CV1 demo and I had a DK2 for a year so I can compare it to those two. I tried and failed to get the guy to install DCS World for the demo, which was pretty lame. I am probably going to pick up a 1060 and overclock it instead of the planned 1070.

 

maybe you dhould think about GTX 980ti. It is with performance maybe better than 1070 and not having bottleneck with older generation CPU.

Also if you can wait you should wait February. RX 490 announced for November and 1080ti for January. You don't have to buy it but this will shake the market and lower the price to older models.

[wormeaten]

Come on Spectre, we want comprehensive report about HDK2 in DCS with comparison to CV1/Vive.

[n1clox]

Hi guys,

 

i have this head set sins 2 weeks now. bud i don't have allot of experience with this thing.

i have purchased it because i want to fly with VR could any one give me some help installing my head set correctly ?

 

i don't use steam... could that be my problem? i have no idee what i am doing wrong :(

[tintifaxl]

i don't use steam... could that be my problem?

 

That's your problem. Without SteamVR DCS doesn't recognize your headset.

[n1clox]

Sorry i mean i have steamVR installed bud i dont use Dcs with Steam.

[guimcdo]

Sorry i mean i have steamVR installed bud i dont use Dcs with Steam.

Hello, the procedure to follow is:

- Launch OSVR server (don(t forget to show the HMD to your IR camera

- Launch steamVR

- If the HMD picture is green on steamVR screen, you can launch DCS, it should be work in VR directly.

 

Rgds

Guillaume

[wormeaten]

 

[Haukka81]

So is this good for dcs or not?

 

 

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