M0ltar Posted August 1, 2016 Posted August 1, 2016 Oh please, it's not just the numbers. BLUE attracts many casual/novice pilots that, if at all, communicate solely via chat. I see them typing "I'm in A-10, where to go?" and then they die 10 minutes later and subsequently leave the server. New player comes in - rinse repeat. The overall numbers don't really reflect the real "force" that's actually attacking. BLUE has too many planes that are in some way degraded, bugged, and or way too underpowered. F-5: Basically a faster HAWK with a short range radar Gazelle: Only 4 missiles Mirage: Missiles bugged F-15: Missile performance is so poor, it comes down to dogfighting 90% of the time where Shlem/R73 stand out A-10: Way too slow with greatly reduced attack range F-4: Self-explanatory. I even see Su27s equipping ECM and fly above cons. Strange new world... While I agree with Blue having most of the fotter, I think some of the things you listed below are a bit over the top. Reds missiles are just as messed up. Yes they don't have the issues that the magics have, but they have tracking issues just like Blue. Also, the comment about the A10 is BS. I can destroy a farp way faster in an A10 then they can in a Su25. People that say the A10 is not capable don't know how to fly it. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] 64th Aggressors TS DCSWorldEvents Twitch Splash One Gaming Splash One Gaming Discord The Merge SATAL
Jester Darrak Posted August 1, 2016 Posted August 1, 2016 I've seen people in a Su25 take out an airfield on their own in no time, so I'm comparing good Froggy with good Hoggy. It's just that the 25 can carry Vickers (don't know the actual term) which gives them greater fire power overall. And regarding the A2A missiles I know that both eastern and western missiles are flawed, but the Shlem and R73 make the difference there. I consider myself a good, above average Eagle driver but if I face an equally skilled opponent I will always lose against the latter combo.
holimoli Posted August 1, 2016 Posted August 1, 2016 F-15: Missile performance is so poor, it comes down to dogfighting 90% of the time where .. :megalol::megalol::megalol::megalol::megalol::megalol::megalol::megalol::megalol: [100☭] holimoli #13, 100-й КИАП
M0ltar Posted August 1, 2016 Posted August 1, 2016 I've seen people in a Su25 take out an airfield on their own in no time, so I'm comparing good Froggy with good Hoggy. It's just that the 25 can carry Vickers (don't know the actual term) which gives them greater fire power overall. And regarding the A2A missiles I know that both eastern and western missiles are flawed, but the Shlem and R73 make the difference there. I consider myself a good, above average Eagle driver but if I face an equally skilled opponent I will always lose against the latter combo. It doesn't matter if the Su25 can take an airfield alone. I actually took an airfield alone last night, 2 in fact.... The A10C can do it fast and more effectively then a Su25 can. Think what you want, but the A10C is the better weapons platform because of the TGP and mark points. Going on your point on the F15. I would bet you are not flying to the strengths of the 15 and flying into right where the Su27 wants you low and in a turn fight. This is what people commonly do. They fly everything the same and then complain that something is better then what they are flying. Players need to be flying each frame to its benefits instead of flying everything like a go kart. I guarantee people with agree with me on this as I have set it before in this very threat. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] 64th Aggressors TS DCSWorldEvents Twitch Splash One Gaming Splash One Gaming Discord The Merge SATAL
Reaper6 Posted August 1, 2016 Posted August 1, 2016 Oh please, it's not just the numbers. BLUE attracts many casual/novice pilots that, if at all, communicate solely via chat. I see them typing "I'm in A-10, where to go?" and then they die 10 minutes later and subsequently leave the server. New player comes in - rinse repeat. The overall numbers don't really reflect the real "force" that's actually attacking. BLUE has too many planes that are in some way degraded, bugged, and or way too underpowered. F-5: Basically a faster HAWK with a short range radar Gazelle: Only 4 missiles Mirage: Missiles bugged F-15: Missile performance is so poor, it comes down to dogfighting 90% of the time where Shlem/R73 stand out A-10: Way too slow with greatly reduced attack range F-4: Self-explanatory. I even see Su27s equipping ECM and fly above cons. Strange new world... WOW... Maybe you should be playing ArmA or something... :) Reaper6 "De oppresso liber" NZXT Phantom Full Tower, Intel Core i7 4960X Processor(6x 3.60GHz/15MB L3Cache) 20% Overclocking, 64GB DDR3-2133 Memory, NVIDIA GeForce GTX Titan Black-6GB SLI Mode(Dual Cards), Gigabyte GA-X79-UP4 Motherboard, ViewSonic PJD5132 SVGA Multi-Region 3D Ready Portable DLP Projector, Track IR 5, Thrustmaster Warthog, Cougar MFDs.
Frostie Posted August 1, 2016 Posted August 1, 2016 I even see Su27s equipping ECM and fly above cons. Strange new world... That has been going on for years, the difference is you've only just noticed. ;) "[51☭] FROSTIE" #55 'Red 5'. Lord Flashheart 51st PVO "Bisons" - 100 KIAP Regiment Fastest MiG pilot in the world - TCR'10 https://100kiap.org
OperatorJack Posted August 1, 2016 Posted August 1, 2016 Oh please, it's not just the numbers. BLUE attracts many casual/novice pilots that, if at all, communicate solely via chat. I see them typing "I'm in A-10, where to go?" and then they die 10 minutes later and subsequently leave the server. New player comes in - rinse repeat. The overall numbers don't really reflect the real "force" that's actually attacking. BLUE has too many planes that are in some way degraded, bugged, and or way too underpowered. F-5: Basically a faster HAWK with a short range radar Gazelle: Only 4 missiles Mirage: Missiles bugged F-15: Missile performance is so poor, it comes down to dogfighting 90% of the time where Shlem/R73 stand out A-10: Way too slow with greatly reduced attack range F-4: Self-explanatory. I even see Su27s equipping ECM and fly above cons. Strange new world... Meanwhile the R-27R can be defeated by wiggling the nose up and down /да бойз/ [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Ktulu2 Posted August 1, 2016 Posted August 1, 2016 Same for any missile in DCS excepted the R-3R I do DCS videos on youtube : https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAs8VxtXRJHZLnKS4mKunnQ?view_as=public
microvax Posted August 1, 2016 Posted August 1, 2016 R3R is ICBM intercept missile, everyone knows that. And here I am, waiting for the RB05 air to air kills. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] *unexpected flight behaviour* Oh shiii*** ! What ? Why ? What is happening ?
Jester Darrak Posted August 1, 2016 Posted August 1, 2016 Really, guys? Everytime a BLUE player complains about something you just start lol, rofl, wow troll and when you complain it's absolutely correct? This is MY opinion, MY observations so eff off or contribute to the discussion. 1
M0ltar Posted August 1, 2016 Posted August 1, 2016 Really, guys? Everytime a BLUE player complains about something you just start lol, rofl, wow troll and when you complain it's absolutely correct? This is MY opinion, MY observations so eff off or contribute to the discussion. Im a BLUE player and Im starting with you and disagreeing with you.... [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] 64th Aggressors TS DCSWorldEvents Twitch Splash One Gaming Splash One Gaming Discord The Merge SATAL
Frostie Posted August 1, 2016 Posted August 1, 2016 ROFLCOPTER should be able to collect Intel pls. "[51☭] FROSTIE" #55 'Red 5'. Lord Flashheart 51st PVO "Bisons" - 100 KIAP Regiment Fastest MiG pilot in the world - TCR'10 https://100kiap.org
microvax Posted August 1, 2016 Posted August 1, 2016 ROFLCOPTER should be able to collect Intel pls. ouhh yes plox the banterz will be glorious ! :megalol: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] *unexpected flight behaviour* Oh shiii*** ! What ? Why ? What is happening ?
holimoli Posted August 1, 2016 Posted August 1, 2016 ROFLCOPTER should be able to collect Intel pls. I do 40g turns with non spoofable R73. Does this count as roflcopter? [100☭] holimoli #13, 100-й КИАП
D4n Posted August 1, 2016 Posted August 1, 2016 Moltar where did you download version 1.219 from the desktop App??? I get 404 error when clicking update link... Only 2 to 1 in favour of Blue, these are normal odds which Red deal with, cos Red stronk with Varaeg/Bart. Who/What is "Varaeg/Bart" ?? Oh please, it's not just the numbers. BLUE attracts many casual/novice pilots that, if at all, communicate solely via chat. I see them typing "I'm in A-10, where to go?" and then they die 10 minutes later and subsequently leave the server. New player comes in - rinse repeat. The overall numbers don't really reflect the real "force" that's actually attacking. BLUE has too many planes that are in some way degraded, bugged, and or way too underpowered. F-5: Basically a faster HAWK with a short range radar Gazelle: Only 4 missiles Mirage: Missiles bugged F-15: Missile performance is so poor, it comes down to dogfighting 90% of the time where Shlem/R73 stand out A-10: Way too slow with greatly reduced attack range F-4: Self-explanatory. I even see Su27s equipping ECM and fly above cons. Strange new world... Not to talk about how DAMN often R-27 and R-73 miss their targets very closely... DCS Wishlist: 2K11 Krug SA-4 Ganef SAM, VR-TrackIR icons next to player names in score-chart PvP: 100+ manual player-kills with Stingers on a well known dynamic campaign server - 100+ VTOL FARP landings & 125+ hours AV-8B, F-14 crew, royal dutch airforce F-16C - PvP campaigns since 2013 DCS server-admins: please adhere to a common sense gaming industry policy as most server admins throughout the industry do. (After all there's enough hostility on the internet already which really doesn't help anyone. Thanks.) Dell Visor VR headset, Ryzen 5 5600 (6C/12T), RTX 4060 - basic DCS-community rule-of-thumb: Don't believe bad things that a PvP pilot claims about another PvP pilot without having analyzed the existing evidence
M0ltar Posted August 1, 2016 Posted August 1, 2016 Moltar where did you download version 1.219 from the desktop App??? I get 404 error when clicking update link.... I never updated it. I just downloaded it from rhcloud and installed it. Are you talking about an update link in the application? If you are, just uninstall and reinstall the updated version. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] 64th Aggressors TS DCSWorldEvents Twitch Splash One Gaming Splash One Gaming Discord The Merge SATAL
OperatorJack Posted August 1, 2016 Posted August 1, 2016 If Jester is having so many gripes with blue aircraft maybe he should get good or fly red? /да бойз/ [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Tony_Kito Posted August 1, 2016 Posted August 1, 2016 Really, guys? Everytime a BLUE player complains about something you just start lol, rofl, wow troll and when you complain it's absolutely correct? This is MY opinion, MY observations so eff off or contribute to the discussion. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]Arm it up
Jester Darrak Posted August 2, 2016 Posted August 2, 2016 When hell freezes over, maybe. But I got a few buddies on BLUE I really like to fly with and I don't like russian aircraft. What bugs me the most is all the hatred towards me from some people here on the forums. What's wrong with you? You on a witch hunt? If Jester is having so many gripes with blue aircraft maybe he should get good or fly red?
OperatorJack Posted August 2, 2016 Posted August 2, 2016 What's wrong with you? You on a witch hunt? Nope, you just made a really dumb post is all /да бойз/ [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Frostie Posted August 2, 2016 Posted August 2, 2016 When hell freezes over, maybe. But I got a few buddies on BLUE I really like to fly with and I don't like russian aircraft. What bugs me the most is all the hatred towards me from some people here on the forums. What's wrong with you? You on a witch hunt? Just stop being so serious brother, its just a game, just get into the spirit of friendly rivalry and stop any sticks that may approach your butt, then all will be much more enjoyable. ;) "[51☭] FROSTIE" #55 'Red 5'. Lord Flashheart 51st PVO "Bisons" - 100 KIAP Regiment Fastest MiG pilot in the world - TCR'10 https://100kiap.org
Jester Darrak Posted August 2, 2016 Posted August 2, 2016 That's well beyond friendly rivalry. I'm fine with shit-talk but there is a limit in everything. Just stop being so serious brother, its just a game, just get into the spirit of friendly rivalry and stop any sticks that may approach your butt, then all will be much more enjoyable. ;)
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