sirrah Posted August 15, 2016 Posted August 15, 2016 (edited) Hi there! Sorry guys for yet another noob question about VR. I'm very interested in buying a cv1. After reading and watching a lot of VR reviews I expect the rift to be the best choice for me. DCS is in fact the only reason I want to go VR (and maybe Assetto Corsa). I was planning to wait for the Hornet mod to be released, but I just can't wait any longer...:P Now for the noob question part... From day one I have been playing dcs (connected to a 50" tv) on my MSI "gaming" laptop which I bought about 6 years ago orso: i5-460M ATI Radeon HD5870 / 1GB DDR5 DDRIII 4GB (2GB*2) Since then I never kept up with any system improvements (eg. cards, RAM, CPU etc.) so I'm a complete airhead about what there is on the market right now. Ofcourse my laptop isn't fit to support the cv1 so I was wondering what system I should buy to be able to play DCS and all it's modules without any stutters and making use of all it's gfx capabilities. I see lot's of information about gfx cards and other loose components but are there any complete systems out there? Like the ones advertised on the Oculus Rift website. Are they any good for DCS? and for a few years to come also? https://www3.oculus.com/en-us/oculus-ready-pcs/ Anyone has any advise for me, or tell me where to start looking? (my budget will be around $1500-$2000 incl the Rift) Edited August 15, 2016 by sirrah System specs: i7-8700K @stock speed - GTX 1080TI @ stock speed - AsRock Extreme4 Z370 - 32GB DDR4 @3GHz- 500GB SSD - 2TB nvme - 650W PSU HP Reverb G1 v2 - Saitek Pro pedals - TM Warthog HOTAS - TM F/A-18 Grip - TM Cougar HOTAS (NN-Dan mod) & (throttle standalone mod) - VIRPIL VPC Rotor TCS Plus with ALPHA-L grip - Pointctrl & aux banks <-- must have for VR users!! - Andre's SimShaker Jetpad - Fully adjustable DIY playseat - VA+VAICOM - Realsimulator FSSB-R3 ~ That nuke might not have been the best of ideas, Sir... the enemy is furious ~ GUMMBAH
TAW_Impalor Posted August 15, 2016 Posted August 15, 2016 (edited) I always build/upgrade my own PCs. I think within your budget you can afford current technology: GTX 1080, i7-6700k (more Ghz is better than more cores), DDR4 (16Gb minimum), good mobo... Edited August 15, 2016 by impalor 1 12900KF@5.4, 32GB DDR4@4000cl14g1, 4090, M.2, W10 Pro, Warthog HOTAS, ButtKicker, Reverb G2/OpenXR
sirrah Posted August 15, 2016 Author Posted August 15, 2016 Thanks for this first feedback Impalor. Back in the 90's I usually build my own pc's aswell (with a little help from friends). But I'm not that much into pc's anymore to know what components match best :huh: I did read about the GTX1080 being the best card on the market atm. But then I came across this thread here: http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=168056 :helpsmilie: System specs: i7-8700K @stock speed - GTX 1080TI @ stock speed - AsRock Extreme4 Z370 - 32GB DDR4 @3GHz- 500GB SSD - 2TB nvme - 650W PSU HP Reverb G1 v2 - Saitek Pro pedals - TM Warthog HOTAS - TM F/A-18 Grip - TM Cougar HOTAS (NN-Dan mod) & (throttle standalone mod) - VIRPIL VPC Rotor TCS Plus with ALPHA-L grip - Pointctrl & aux banks <-- must have for VR users!! - Andre's SimShaker Jetpad - Fully adjustable DIY playseat - VA+VAICOM - Realsimulator FSSB-R3 ~ That nuke might not have been the best of ideas, Sir... the enemy is furious ~ GUMMBAH
TAW_Impalor Posted August 15, 2016 Posted August 15, 2016 Saw that thread. Did not stop me from ordering 1080 STRIX. Will receive it tomorrow and will comment. DCS is playable at PD 1.0 on my MSI 760 OC, but I want to read gauges and connect my TV/sound system together with Rift. 12900KF@5.4, 32GB DDR4@4000cl14g1, 4090, M.2, W10 Pro, Warthog HOTAS, ButtKicker, Reverb G2/OpenXR
sirrah Posted August 15, 2016 Author Posted August 15, 2016 Saw that thread. Did not stop me from ordering 1080 STRIX. Will receive it tomorrow and will comment. DCS is playable at PD 1.0 on my MSI 760 OC, but I want to read gauges and connect my TV/sound system together with Rift. Don't follow you the entire way, 1080 "STRIX"?, playable at PD 1.0? But do I understand correctly that one would need a 1080 to be able to easily read gauges? System specs: i7-8700K @stock speed - GTX 1080TI @ stock speed - AsRock Extreme4 Z370 - 32GB DDR4 @3GHz- 500GB SSD - 2TB nvme - 650W PSU HP Reverb G1 v2 - Saitek Pro pedals - TM Warthog HOTAS - TM F/A-18 Grip - TM Cougar HOTAS (NN-Dan mod) & (throttle standalone mod) - VIRPIL VPC Rotor TCS Plus with ALPHA-L grip - Pointctrl & aux banks <-- must have for VR users!! - Andre's SimShaker Jetpad - Fully adjustable DIY playseat - VA+VAICOM - Realsimulator FSSB-R3 ~ That nuke might not have been the best of ideas, Sir... the enemy is furious ~ GUMMBAH
rrohde Posted August 15, 2016 Posted August 15, 2016 PD 1.0 = "Pixel Density" (can be set in the DCS "VR" Setting Options). PC: AMD Ryzen 9 5950X | MSI Suprim GeForce 3090 TI | ASUS Prime X570-P | 128GB DDR4 3600 RAM | 2TB Samsung 870 EVO SSD | Win10 Pro 64bit Gear: HP Reverb G2 | JetPad FSE | VKB Gunfighter Pro Mk.III w/ MCG Ultimate VKBcontrollers.com
hansangb Posted August 16, 2016 Posted August 16, 2016 You need as much headroom as possible from CPU, memory, SSD to video card. So layout your budget and go for the best system. The Oculus Ready PCs are already out of date. They show systems with GTX-970 which you should *NOT* get. hsb HW Spec in Spoiler --- i7-10700K Direct-To-Die/OC'ed to 5.1GHz, MSI Z490 MB, 32GB DDR4 3200MHz, EVGA 2080 Ti FTW3, NVMe+SSD, Win 10 x64 Pro, MFG, Warthog, TM MFDs, Komodo Huey set, Rverbe G1
sirrah Posted August 16, 2016 Author Posted August 16, 2016 Okay thanks for the warning, thats exactly what I was afraid of. Guess it would be best to ask one of my friends (he's an IT guy) to build the perfect pc for me :thumbup: System specs: i7-8700K @stock speed - GTX 1080TI @ stock speed - AsRock Extreme4 Z370 - 32GB DDR4 @3GHz- 500GB SSD - 2TB nvme - 650W PSU HP Reverb G1 v2 - Saitek Pro pedals - TM Warthog HOTAS - TM F/A-18 Grip - TM Cougar HOTAS (NN-Dan mod) & (throttle standalone mod) - VIRPIL VPC Rotor TCS Plus with ALPHA-L grip - Pointctrl & aux banks <-- must have for VR users!! - Andre's SimShaker Jetpad - Fully adjustable DIY playseat - VA+VAICOM - Realsimulator FSSB-R3 ~ That nuke might not have been the best of ideas, Sir... the enemy is furious ~ GUMMBAH
hansangb Posted August 16, 2016 Posted August 16, 2016 or buy a more modern gaming machine. It depends on your budget. hsb HW Spec in Spoiler --- i7-10700K Direct-To-Die/OC'ed to 5.1GHz, MSI Z490 MB, 32GB DDR4 3200MHz, EVGA 2080 Ti FTW3, NVMe+SSD, Win 10 x64 Pro, MFG, Warthog, TM MFDs, Komodo Huey set, Rverbe G1
TAW_Impalor Posted August 17, 2016 Posted August 17, 2016 As promised, some comments after upgrading my GTX 760 for 1080. At first, I did NOT see much improvement in VR or on a monitor. FPS gain with the same settings was about 50%, not 200% I expected from the reviews. But then I changed Pixel Density from 1.0 to 2.5 (did not result in ANY FPS hit, unlike with my old 760), and reduced visibility to give the card fewer objects to draw, but with higher quality. Now the game looks nice, runs at 90 FPS in the sky/45 near ground, GPU utilization near 100%. I overclocked my CPU and GPU a little, but it did not improve FPS. So, indeed DCS is bottlenecked by DirectX 11, as some mentioned in other threads. 12900KF@5.4, 32GB DDR4@4000cl14g1, 4090, M.2, W10 Pro, Warthog HOTAS, ButtKicker, Reverb G2/OpenXR
hansangb Posted August 17, 2016 Posted August 17, 2016 Thanks for the follow-up. It's that head room that people miss about upgrading to higher GPU. I get that it may not be worth it to some. For me, the non-hit of increasing pixel density is worth it. hsb HW Spec in Spoiler --- i7-10700K Direct-To-Die/OC'ed to 5.1GHz, MSI Z490 MB, 32GB DDR4 3200MHz, EVGA 2080 Ti FTW3, NVMe+SSD, Win 10 x64 Pro, MFG, Warthog, TM MFDs, Komodo Huey set, Rverbe G1
harf4ng Posted August 18, 2016 Posted August 18, 2016 The 1080 is maybe a good video card, but how expensive... near the price of the HTC Vive :) Favorite modules : Huey, F-86F, F14 and P-51D Quest 2, RTX 3080, i7 10700K, 16 Gb of RAM, Pro Flight Trainer PUMA helicopter setup, Warthog HOTAS with two force sensitive stick, custom cockpit and a GS-Cobra dynamic seat.
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