My Stick/Throttle Mapping.

[Zeus67]

I know that I am new to the DCS environment and all. In fact, before DCS, the last combat flight simulator I flew was Microprose's F-117 Nighthawk.

 

 

At the time it was top of the line in combat flight simulators. It even had the Desert Storm campaign!! :D

 

Anyway, a few months ago I bought a Saitek X-55 Rhino system and after many trials and errors I think I have the best mapping, so far, for the M-2000C. I am using DCS control mapping instead of Saitek's system. I still don't know how to configure this thing. :helpsmilie:

But I wanted to share this with you and hope it may be useful to somebody.

 

 

 

I want see your mappings, perhaps yours are better than mine,

Edited October 8, 2016 by Zeus67

[kobeshow]

Hi Zeus, nice settings (; I also have a X55 which is broken already (some loose contacts, your "2" button on the throttle doesn't work for me anymore), but I use the software for programing my keybindings and am very happy with it, I used it as a replacement for countermeasure programs for example, if you really want some:helpsmilie:with it I would be glad to help you. I am not sure if DCS recognises the stick's different modes, makes a lot of buttons go to waste that way (;

[Zeus67]

I will appreciate that. So far what I've seen is that the Saitek software, or should I say Logitech now :), only creates keyboard macros. So I wondered if I had to do keyboard bindings and then map them to the throttle/stick.

[kobeshow]

I will appreciate that. So far what I've seen is that the Saitek software, or should I say Logitech now :), only creates keyboard macros. So I wondered if I had to do keyboard bindings and then map them to the throttle/stick.

 

Yeah unfortunately you have to do it with keyboard macros.

At first I thought it would be hard for me to do it for the Mirage because of the lack of default bindings, but I now realised that it gives me much more freedom and makes the process quicker than expected, so that was one of the surprises for my first full fidelity module (great work by the way!).

The configuration of the macros is straight forward and more or less self explanatory.

One thing I would advise though is to set an advanced command even for single button presses, and always remember to "quantize time" so it happens instantly.

I don't want to give obsolete tips here, so instead of typing more words I'll just attach my M2000-C profile for you and anyone else to have a look and get some pointers. It is in no way set to correspond roughly to the real Mirage controls like yours, it might be a bit weird even, and is very much wip just as the module itsself.

DCS M2000C.zip

[Whisper]

I did like Zeus, because I found Saitek software to be rather unreliable in some instances. Sticky keys, or lag in input, to name a few.

I only have a generic very simple profile for all DCS aircraft, with mapping for VoIP PTT and OpenTrack centering function, and the throttle "ministick" (which is not one) mapped to the usual TDC keys in DCS. That way I don't need to change profile when I change aircraft.

 

My own setup is a real nightmare without any proper order, I gonna take some inspiration from yours, Zeus, thanks for posting

 

EDIT : I don't know for you, but I also find the TGL1 and SW5 & 6 on throttle to be reachable enough for quick functions, if needed. You didn't list your mapping on these, Zeus, do you actually use these switches?

Edited October 8, 2016 by Whisper

[Zeus67]

EDIT : I don't know for you, but I also find the TGL1 and SW5 & 6 on throttle to be reachable enough for quick functions, if needed. You didn't list your mapping on these, Zeus, do you actually use these switches?

 

I mapped all of them to the PCA and PPA. So I can change weapons/modes without having to use the keyboard.

[Zeus67]

Anybody has a HOTAS Thrustmaster mapping that want to share?

[diceman]

Wonder if this would work (dcs mappings) for a x-52.

 

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[CrashO]

Anybody has a HOTAS Thrustmaster mapping that want to share?

I do, but is is not exactly "realistic" in terms of the real Mirage HOTAS (assignment wise) :music_whistling: I just binded everything I tend to use during combat-flights to buttons so I don't have to use my mouse while I run the risk of being engaged :)

 

I have been using (and updating) it for months and it works great in high-pressure servers like the 104th. Only, I do not use the trustmaster Target software, but prefer to let DCS handle it. And just have everything binded inside (JSGME compatible) lua files.

 

M2000C Warthog switches.zip

[Compulse]

My HOTAS Warthog setup - not perfect yet, I still need to adjust a few things, but it's getting there.

 

 

 

I also have a small box I made myself for a few extra switches/toggles. Running off an Arduino with MMJoy2.

 

[Ganesh]

I do, but is is not exactly "realistic" in terms of the real Mirage HOTAS (assignment wise) :music_whistling: I just binded everything I tend to use during combat-flights to buttons so I don't have to use my mouse while I run the risk of being engaged :)

 

I have been using (and updating) it for months and it works great in high-pressure servers like the 104th. Only, I do not use the trustmaster Target software, but prefer to let DCS handle it. And just have everything binded inside (JSGME compatible) lua files.

 

^^ looks really interesting! Maybe i´ll try this later.

Thank you for sharing your lua files :thumbup:

 

PS @Zeus: Great Avatar ;)

Merken

Edited October 8, 2016 by Ganesh

[jojo]

Hi guys.

 

Since we're talking about it, I updated my profile, enjoy :smilewink:

 

https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/1834870/

 

[noisy_lightning]

Anyone been able to bind the mouse stick on the throttle of a X55 to the TDC? Seems a waste not being able to but for the life of me I csnt make it work.

 

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[kobeshow]

Hey Noisy_lightning,

 

sadly the mouse thumb is not really an axis ): your only option to use it as TDC is to select bands, and then bind the corresponding keyboard commands to those bands, leave the 34%-65% range of the band empty, and bind 0%-33% and 66-100% to up/down/left/right.

I did a quick test with it and it does not go very smoothly, that mouse thumb stick is just awful since it is really just a 4 way switch.

[noisy_lightning]

Hey Noisy_lightning,

 

sadly the mouse thumb is not really an axis ): your only option to use it as TDC is to select bands, and then bind the corresponding keyboard commands to those bands, leave the 34%-65% range of the band empty, and bind 0%-33% and 66-100% to up/down/left/right.

I did a quick test with it and it does not go very smoothly, that mouse thumb stick is just awful since it is really just a 4 way switch.

Tried this before with the A10 and its shockingly bad to use to ended up using one of the 8 way hats instead. Will stick with my current use of the upper hat I think just seems a shame for that mouse stick to be there and never used.

If its a "joystick" you set it up in the axis assign menu. Vert and Horiz get bound by moving them up/down or left/right once button assign window is open. You can also choose them from key/button dropdown.

Sadly its not a proper analogue stick just a different top for a hat.

 

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[kobeshow]

Tried this before with the A10 and its shockingly bad to use to ended up using one of the 8 way hats instead. Will stick with my current use of the upper hat I think just seems a shame for that mouse stick to be there and never used.

 

Sadly its not a proper analogue stick just a different top for a hat.

 

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Yes I agree, it's an absolute shame.

[cthulhu68]

That's one thing I like about my CH throttle. Mini joystick is great for slewing and even Helo rudders.

 

And thx to everyone for giving me an idea of how to set up for M2000

Edited October 9, 2016 by cthulhu68

[Gliptal]

Anybody has a HOTAS Thrustmaster mapping that want to share?

I'll post mine tomorrow, altough it's still in the works due to the lack of an updated reference for the real HOTAS.

[jojo]

I'll post mine tomorrow, altough it's still in the works due to the lack of an updated reference for the real HOTAS.

 

I don't understand, the real HOTAS is described in the module manual.

[zaelu]

What are those "priority" buttons?

[CrashO]

What are those "priority" buttons?

Weapon selectors, defaulting back to guns when empty.

 

The way selecting weapons in the real aircraft works is, on the throttle there is a 3 way switch. Using it you can select 3 "priority" modes.

 

 

• Priority A/A guns
  
• Neutral -> return to PCA selection
  
• Priority MAGIC
  

 

So if you select for example the 530 on the PCA. And press "priority MAGIC". You selected weapon will be, MAGIC. With guns, guns, and having the priority switch in neutral, will select the 530 again.

So nothing special so far.

 

So lets say you select priority MAGIC.

If you then fire both your magics and have no more remaining, it will select guns for you, automatically.

If you then select 530, and fire both of them. Again it will auto select guns.

 

So it's a way you can always have a weapon at you usage (and to switch between them fast and easy)

[Gliptal]

I don't understand, the real HOTAS is described in the module manual.

Yes but it's not up to date with the latest changes to the module. You may notice the jammer engage/disengage button is missing entirely.

 

Here's mine, I went for the best 1:1 with the real HOTAS, rather than ease of use:

 

 

[jojo]

Yes but it's not up to date with the latest changes to the module. You may notice the jammer engage/disengage button is missing entirely.

 

No, it's button 1 on throttle description p24.

 

The decoy program release button should be on stick (4 on stick description).

The decoy panic release button should be on throttle (3 on throttle description).

 

If you want to go closer to the real HOTAS logic:

- "weapon release" should be on "trigger".

- "countermeasure program" should be on "weapon release".

 

But that's up to you :smilewink:

[Gliptal]

No, it's button 1 on throttle description p24.

 

The decoy program release button should be on stick (4 on stick description).

The decoy panic release button should be on throttle (3 on throttle description).

 

If you want to go closer to the real HOTAS logic:

- "weapon release" should be on "trigger".

- "countermeasure program" should be on "weapon release".

 

But that's up to you :smilewink:

Yeah though about that, but I'd rather have the AP disconnect on the trigger.

[jojo]

It could work too on "Master mode control button".