Guest Cali Posted October 3, 2006 Posted October 3, 2006 ED is there anyway that destroyed targets smoke could have random heights, instead of all being the same height.
warthogmadman987 Posted October 3, 2006 Posted October 3, 2006 I think that it is things like this that really need to be looked into for BS. I really dont like the way the cluster munitions exlpode either, they look like bombs more than firecrackers (from what i have seen in some movies they look more like firecrackers) Although isnt the smoke a 3d model, so couldnt we make several new models and have it radomize which one occurs (using the new pluggins?)
Corsair7662 Posted October 3, 2006 Posted October 3, 2006 try blowing up a building like the control tower. it will give you a massive fireball and bigger smoke.
Guest Cali Posted October 4, 2006 Posted October 4, 2006 I just watched a video about a A-10 blow up ground targets. There was about 8-10 in a row and when he shot them, they all blow up and the smoke was the same height. And it would be nice to have random heights, it would look 100% better if it was different. Maybe someone can fix this with the add-on that ED as provided us with.
Colt40Five Posted October 4, 2006 Posted October 4, 2006 I'd just be happy if they increased the burn duration on vehicle size fires. Sucks when you're trying to use a hit vehicle to ID a target area and all of a sudden it's gone... [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Guest Cali Posted October 4, 2006 Posted October 4, 2006 I'd just be happy if they increased the burn duration on vehicle size fires. Sucks when you're trying to use a hit vehicle to ID a target area and all of a sudden it's gone... That would be nice to fix that as well, maybe double the time it burns.
Brit_Radar_Dude Posted October 4, 2006 Posted October 4, 2006 Sucks when you're trying to use a hit vehicle to ID a target area and all of a sudden it's gone...Just trash some nearby civilian building (naughty I know:music_whistling: ), they burn for a long time. ...they all blow up and the smoke was the same height.I agree it looks very unreal. I try to add a fair amount of wind so that at least the smoke blows sideways. Increases the fun of hitting them in the first place too....... [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Sorry Death, you lose! It was Professor Plum....
SuperKungFu Posted October 4, 2006 Posted October 4, 2006 We gotta spread the word of the plugin for 3d max to the MS community. They have a huge community and the produce a new model everyday. I'm sure one of those guys have an idea how to make a new smoke model. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Roman G Posted October 4, 2006 Posted October 4, 2006 I totally agree with Cali. I think it would be nice if smoke rised to proper height - a mile or so. If LOMAC can show AWACS trails hundred miles long for forever - then I think it shouldn't be problem to have "longer" smokes for longer period of time (10 minutes at least) ...
ARM505 Posted October 4, 2006 Posted October 4, 2006 Yes, and smoke doesn't just 'stop' either! I mean that both in terms of the height to which the smoke rises, plus a vehicle doesn't just instantly stop burning and producing smoke. They could make the smoke thinner (texture more tranparent or something like that) over a random time and height, plus some slight randomness in how it drifts, just to make the smoke columns look more natural.
Witchking Posted October 4, 2006 Posted October 4, 2006 I have been asking them for improved explosions and smoke effects for a long time. Ed seem to think its not much of a priority now...so I guess we just have to wait. :( WHISPR | Intel I7 5930K | Nvidia GTX980 4GB GDDR5 | 16GB DDR4 | Intel 730 series 512GB SSD | Thrustmaster WARTHOG | CH Pro Pedals | TrackIR4 pro | |A-10C|BS2 |CA|P-51 MUSTANG|UH-1H HUEY|MI-8 MTV2 |FC3|F5E|M2000C|AJS-37|FW190|BF 109K|Mig21|A-10:SSC,EWC|L-39|NEVADA|
SuperKungFu Posted October 4, 2006 Posted October 4, 2006 well they should improve it,in BS when we blow up those tanks up close and personal, i don't wanna see that ugly smoke. Hell that pilot smoking was better than the tank's smoking (from that blackshark video). [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
AKULA_OPTIMUS Posted October 4, 2006 Posted October 4, 2006 As a helicopter simulator, I suppouse they will upgrade the explosions and the smoke, they had put a lot of detail on the ground models and it would be so bad with the allways-same??:music_whistling: explosion.
S77th-konkussion Posted October 4, 2006 Posted October 4, 2006 Weren't they downgraded from their original modeling? Seems they did last longer, with better explosions in 1.02 . [sIGPIC]http://forums.eagle.ru/attachment.php?attachmentid=43337&d=1287169113[/sIGPIC]
Boneski Posted October 4, 2006 Posted October 4, 2006 Missing the point I think! :doh: Guys... This is an odd request... For a flight sim LockOn's details are top notch. The smoke thing is an odd request because how long are you loitering around the target to even notice that?? Just having the effect as is -is more then good enuff... Some of the detailed items people ask for regarding this game can be down right odd and unrealistic...(not saying this request or Idea is) You know this effect would be wasted since only 1% of the players will even notice it. " I guess if you make the Lock Ons movie films for peoples for enjoy - you wants the Smokes" -Borat (That's going to be one funny movie) LOL!:lol: My mission is to fly, fight, and win. o-:|:-o What I do is sometimes get a tin of soup, heat it up, poach an egg in it, serve that with a pork pie sausage roll.
warthogmadman987 Posted October 4, 2006 Posted October 4, 2006 :doh: Guys... This is an odd request... For a flight sim LockOn's details are top notch. The smoke thing is an odd request because how long are you loitering around the target to even notice that?? Just having the effect as is -is more then good enuff... Some of the detailed items people ask for regarding this game can be down right odd and unrealistic...(not saying this request or Idea is) You know this effect would be wasted since only 1% of the players will even notice it. " I guess if you make the Lock Ons movie films for peoples for enjoy - you wants the Smokes" -Borat (That's going to be one funny movie) LOL!:lol: I would say i highly disagree.
Guest Cali Posted October 5, 2006 Posted October 5, 2006 :doh: Guys... This is an odd request... For a flight sim LockOn's details are top notch. The smoke thing is an odd request because how long are you loitering around the target to even notice that?? Just having the effect as is -is more then good enuff... Some of the detailed items people ask for regarding this game can be down right odd and unrealistic...(not saying this request or Idea is) You know this effect would be wasted since only 1% of the players will even notice it. " I guess if you make the Lock Ons movie films for peoples for enjoy - you wants the Smokes" -Borat (That's going to be one funny movie) LOL!:lol: What if your the second wave of a attack and your looking for the smoke? Or what if your a fighter and your talking to a bomber trying to tell him where to go?
Boneski Posted October 5, 2006 Posted October 5, 2006 Second wave? Talking to Bombers? Are we still talking about Lock on? The Ai in the game will know where to shot. NOW the FAC module that Eagle has talked about building were visuals are far more important then that's a different story. But the cockpit base game... that's sounds like wasted CPU cycles... In the flanker series Smoke from stacks drifted in the direction of the wind set in the MET screen. Not sure if that amazing feature is still in this current code base. My mission is to fly, fight, and win. o-:|:-o What I do is sometimes get a tin of soup, heat it up, poach an egg in it, serve that with a pork pie sausage roll.
S77th-GOYA Posted October 5, 2006 Posted October 5, 2006 Second wave? Talking to Bombers? Are we still talking about Lock on? The Ai in the game will know where to shot. LOMAC has this wonderful thing called multiplayer. It lets all the aircraft be piloted by humans. At the same time! how long are you loitering around the target to even notice that?? Longer than the smoke effect lasts.
D-Scythe Posted October 5, 2006 Posted October 5, 2006 I don't want to say anything I'm not supposed to, but it is getting looked into (well beforehand, actually). One of the issues, not both though. Take a guess - chances are you'd get it within the first two guesses ;)
ARM505 Posted October 5, 2006 Posted October 5, 2006 And since the chopper will only do about 100-120 knots (less if flying NOE), you'll be in the region of the smoke for a lot longer - even if you're running away!
Weta43 Posted October 5, 2006 Posted October 5, 2006 "One of the issues, not both though. Take a guess - chances are you'd get it within the first two guesses" Ya tease... Cheers.
Shaman Posted October 5, 2006 Posted October 5, 2006 With the way F/X are drawn in this engine it will just kill FPS totally. 51PVO Founding member (DEC2007-) 100KIAP Founding member (DEC2018-) :: Shaman aka [100☭] Shamansky tail# 44 or 444 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] 100KIAP Regiment Early Warning & Control officer
Gaizokubanou Posted October 5, 2006 Posted October 5, 2006 Well the engine is cpu demanding, so I don't think extra eye candy will hurt that much, at least for newer rigs. And if it does, just turn the new feature off :D
Shaman Posted October 5, 2006 Posted October 5, 2006 Waste 1990 group with an ammo bunker next to it and we'll talk :D 51PVO Founding member (DEC2007-) 100KIAP Founding member (DEC2018-) :: Shaman aka [100☭] Shamansky tail# 44 or 444 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] 100KIAP Regiment Early Warning & Control officer
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