Zilch Posted December 16, 2016 Posted December 16, 2016 Anyone else having problems with them? I realize they're different from the hydraulic brakes I'm used to, but I keep failing the taxi mission because my brakes won't hold the plane still when I advance the throttle to test the brakes. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Zilch79's YouTube Channel:
Zimmerdylan Posted December 16, 2016 Posted December 16, 2016 I just got the basic idea from the mission and got out of it. I taxied around on my own a little and now I'm fairly adept at it. Takeoff is a dream compared to the German planes. But the taxi is very similar to the Mig15, just a whole lot more sensitive.
Coxy_99 Posted December 16, 2016 Posted December 16, 2016 brakes rudder and throttle its actually good
Zilch Posted December 16, 2016 Author Posted December 16, 2016 My brakes actually don't seem to do anything at all. EDIT: My own damn fault, the axis needed to be reversed. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Zilch79's YouTube Channel:
Coxy_99 Posted December 16, 2016 Posted December 16, 2016 In stick options i presume you mapped the brake lever, I also mapped the brake pressure increase de-crease also.
CrackerJack Posted December 16, 2016 Posted December 16, 2016 I have Saitek pedals and I'm having an issue with the brakes. It looks like there is no left and right brake, it seems that both sides are applied simultaneously?? Those of you using pedals how did you map the brakes? Win 10 64-bit, Intel Core i7-7700k@4.2GHz, MSI 1080Ti , 16 GB, 500GB SSD, LG 34UM95, Acer T232HL, TrackIR 5 Pro, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS, Saitek Combat Rudder Pedals.
Roadrunner Posted December 16, 2016 Posted December 16, 2016 no toe brakes as far as i understand, you put the rudder itself left or right and use the break handle on the stick, when the rudder is neutral both are applied, if one is pushed then only on that side. actualy you get used to it quite fast :) PS: someone correct me if i understand the system wrong, but seems to work that way for me :D regards, RR [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] "There's nothing to be gained by second guessing yourself. You can't remake the past, so look ahead... or risk being left behind." Noli Timere Messorem "No matter how fast light travels, it finds the darkness has always been there first, and is waiting for it." Terry Pratchett
snowsniper Posted December 16, 2016 Posted December 16, 2016 no toe brakes as far as i understand, you put the rudder itself left or right and use the break handle on the stick, when the rudder is neutral both are applied, if one is pushed then only on that side. actualy you get used to it quite fast :) PS: someone correct me if i understand the system wrong, but seems to work that way for me :D regards, RR As i removed the middle rudder tips for better Helo flying, this still quite challenging. ;-) find it easier in the mig 21 or 15.;-). just have to practice i7-10700KF CPU 3.80GHz - 32 GO Ram - - nVidia RTX 2070 - SSD Samsung EVO with LG TV screen 40" in 3840x2150 - cockpit scale 1:1 - MS FFB2 Joystick - COUGAR F16 throttle - Saitek Pro Flight Rudder Pedals
Ripcord03 Posted December 16, 2016 Posted December 16, 2016 (edited) I have Saitek pedals and I'm having an issue with the brakes. It looks like there is no left and right brake, it seems that both sides are applied simultaneously?? Those of you using pedals how did you map the brakes? I have the brakes mapped to the Slider axis on my throttle quadrant (Warthog HOTAS), The Left Throttle is set to RPM out of habit from the mustang, and the right to Boost (aka manifold) again out of habit, and i found it awkward to use just one toe brake to try and use the brakes on the spit, so for me the only logical choice was the slider. I noticed immediately the button wont work, its either full brakes or no brakes. The slider was the easiest solution. I just find a engine speed for taxi, then use the brake lever and rudder pedals to taxi and speed up/slow down. (Hint: I set the engine speed so that at just under Half-Pressure on the brake lever i start to roll, and i slow down faster above half-pressure. thus, i can speed up the taxi by removing all brake pressure and well, you get the picture.) EDIT: @Roadrunner, AFAIK that is pretty much exactly how the system works, there are no toe brakes in the spit, it uses the single lever pnuematic system, linked with the rudder pedals and some special valve and line setups to operate the individual brakes based on what direction of rudder input is being given, or in the case of no rudder input, it operates both sets of brakes. Edited December 16, 2016 by Davison
CrackerJack Posted December 16, 2016 Posted December 16, 2016 Thanks for the quick responses. @Davison I have the Warthog what did you bind the slider to? Win 10 64-bit, Intel Core i7-7700k@4.2GHz, MSI 1080Ti , 16 GB, 500GB SSD, LG 34UM95, Acer T232HL, TrackIR 5 Pro, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS, Saitek Combat Rudder Pedals.
Sokol1_br Posted December 16, 2016 Posted December 16, 2016 No "Joe brakes" there's, so used to "British" brakes system (in any plane), wheel brakes mapped to... joystick trigger. :) Calm, don't loose the "guns, guns" ability. Just add a "switches" (permanent modifier" to control I Use scroll lock), and trigger can do both things. If press Lwin and trigger (with scroll on) the brake lever move and stay in position, as fake "park brake". Don't find the needed command for catch the lever brake in Park Position like in real plane (forget?): http://cdn.avweb.com/media/newspics/185669_hurricane_parking_brake_detail.jpg For taxi maneuvers is need reduce the propeller RPM ~2.000 or will do "zeros" in tarmac. :)
BravoFoxTrt Posted December 16, 2016 Posted December 16, 2016 I found this thread very helpful. Thanks to OP and all who responded.:thumbup: MSI R9 280X 6GB x2 Crossfire /ASUS M5A99FX PRO R2.0 Mobo/AMD FX 4170 Bulldozer 4core CPU/RAM Kingston HyperX FURY 16GB/ Corsair RM 1000WATT PSU/Windows 10 Enterprise 64bit/ X52 & CH Pedals/ MSI DS502 GAMING Headset
Ripcord03 Posted December 16, 2016 Posted December 16, 2016 Thanks for the quick responses. @Davison I have the Warthog what did you bind the slider to? I bound it to the Wheel Brakes (Analog) function under Axis Assignments.
Davee Posted December 17, 2016 Posted December 17, 2016 I have Saitek pedals and I'm having an issue with the brakes. It looks like there is no left and right brake, it seems that both sides are applied simultaneously?? Those of you using pedals how did you map the brakes? I have Saitek pedals also and have the brakes mapped to both left and right rudder brakes. It is nice to be able to press the right pedal and also the right brake and vica versa but . . . . I want to try and stay as close to the real thing as possible so I also have the brakes mapped to my WH Joystick switch 4? - - the big pinky lever. Works fine there also. I'll probably go with this after a few checkrides.
Sokol1_br Posted December 17, 2016 Posted December 17, 2016 (edited) Parking Brake - the catch lever for retain wheel brakes lever pressed seems omitted: PN: "The brake lever is fitted on the control column spade grip and a catch for retaining it in the on position for parking is fitted below the lever pivot." http://cdn.avweb.com/media/newspics/185669_hurricane_parking_brake_detail.jpg A "workaround" for fake "Parking Brakes" - useful for engine start. For example, you use Warthog Pinky button lever as "Wheel brakes", map the same Pinky plus a modifier (e.g. LWin, or add a joy/throttle button) for "Wheel brakes increase". Pressing this combo the brake lever move and stay in braked position. A touch in Pinky button release then. Ops. a "bug". :) Although this release the brake brake lever and the brake pressure, don't "reset" the "Wheel brakes increase" command, case want engage "Parking brake" again. For "reset" is need use "Wheel brakes decrease", whats need different modifier for Pinky. Edited December 17, 2016 by Sokol1_br
Anatoli-Kagari9 Posted December 17, 2016 Posted December 17, 2016 For some operations, like engine run up, ground crew holding the tail should be required, or for taking out the chocks, but there are no such options in the "Ground crew" menu ( yet... ). Flight Simulation is the Virtual Materialization of a Dream...
Kozmyk Posted December 17, 2016 Posted December 17, 2016 I just bound my regular L&R Wheel Brake axes to the single brake command. OS:Win10 Home CPU:i7 3770K 3.5(@4.3GHz) COOLER:ZalmanCNPS10X-PERFORMA MOBO:GigabyteGA-Z77X-UD5H SSD#1:SamsungEVO850Pro 500GB SSD#2:SanDisk240GB HDD:2x Seagate2TB GFX:GigabyteGTX670 WF3 2GB OC1058MHz RAM:16GB 16000MHz DDR3 KEYB'Ds:Corsair K95/MS SidewinderX4 MOUSE:LogitechG700s MON:2x ASUS 24” ROUTER:ASUS RT-N66U DarkKnight INTERWEBS:Fibre152Mbps/12Mbps JOYSTICK:TM T16000m Modded THROTTLE:TM TWCS HEADTRACK:TrackIR5Pro
Captain Orso Posted December 24, 2016 Posted December 24, 2016 No "Joe brakes" there's, so used to "British" brakes system (in any plane), wheel brakes mapped to... joystick trigger. :) Calm, don't loose the "guns, guns" ability. Just add a "switches" (permanent modifier" to control I Use scroll lock), and trigger can do both things. If press Lwin and trigger (with scroll on) the brake lever move and stay in position, as fake "park brake". Don't find the needed command for catch the lever brake in Park Position like in real plane (forget?): http://cdn.avweb.com/media/newspics/185669_hurricane_parking_brake_detail.jpg For taxi maneuvers is need reduce the propeller RPM ~2.000 or will do "zeros" in tarmac. :) Bump for Brake Lock/Parking Brake, pretty please :D When you hit the wrong button on take-off System Specs. Spoiler System board: MSI X670E ACE Memory: 64GB DDR5-6000 G.Skill Ripjaw System disk: Crucial P5 M.2 2TB CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D PSU: Corsair HX1200 PSU Monitor: ASUS MG279Q, 27" CPU cooling: Noctua NH-D15S Graphics card: MSI RTX 3090Ti SuprimX VR: Oculus Rift CV1
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