tribundf Posted February 11, 2017 Posted February 11, 2017 Hey guys, long story short..... I used to run an I7 4790k and 16 DDR3 rams with a GTX980ti... i had horrible performance in VR. Tested everything there is and was able to fix it enough so i could run 45fps constantly in both 1.5 and 2.0. Updated to 1.5.6 and now im only getting 22 fps. Unplayable. Today I updated to an I7 7700 and 16 DDR4 ram and I get exactly, and I mean EXACTLY, the same performance. 22 fps in 1.5.6. What should I do? Do yall think a complete re download and reinstall will help? thanks
104th_Shooter Posted February 11, 2017 Posted February 11, 2017 I had the same Problem when i bought the Oculus this week. I upgraded yesterday from my 970 to a 1080 and now it´s running very good.......no it´s amazing ;) I also have 32GB Ram Hope this is helpful for you S! Shooter
tribundf Posted February 11, 2017 Author Posted February 11, 2017 But with new processor it should at least be a little difference? His just seems like it's some software issue or conflict or so.
norbot Posted February 11, 2017 Posted February 11, 2017 (edited) I suppose it's the amount of VRAM (GTX 970 = 4 GB, GTX 1080 = 8 GB) that makes 104th_Shooter's system faster. Don't think changing from an i7 4790 to an i7 7700 makes the big difference. I'm still using an i7 3770 and the cpu never was my bottleneck. Edited February 11, 2017 by norbot
Abburo Posted February 11, 2017 Posted February 11, 2017 I suppose it's the amount of VRAM (GTX 970 = 4 GB, GTX 1080 = 8 GB) that makes 104th_Shooter's system faster. Don't think changing from an i7 4790 to an i7 7700 makes the big difference. I'm still using an i7 3770 and the cpu never was my bottleneck. +1 Romanian Community for DCS World HW Specs: AMD 7900X, 64GB RAM, RTX 4090, HOTAS Virpil, MFG, CLS-E, custom
BitMaster Posted February 11, 2017 Posted February 11, 2017 not correct guys ! He states he runs a 980Ti-GTX and those are ALL 6GB-VRAM cards Gigabyte Aorus X570S Master - Ryzen 5900X - Gskill 64GB 3200/CL14@3600/CL14 - Sapphire Nitro+ 7800XT - 4x Samsung 980Pro 1TB - 1x Samsung 870 Evo 1TB - 1x SanDisc 120GB SSD - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT@9x120mm Noctua F12 - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus XG27ACG QHD 180Hz - Corsair K70 RGB Pro - Win11 Pro/Linux - Phanteks Evolv-X
Haukka81 Posted February 11, 2017 Posted February 11, 2017 Weird , look my system. Runs dcs just fine (Windows 10 here) Your settings ? Windows 95,98, 7,8,10 ? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Oculus CV1, Odyssey, Pimax 5k+ (i5 8400, 24gb ddr4 3000mhz, 1080Ti OC ) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
razo+r Posted February 11, 2017 Posted February 11, 2017 i have your first setup, without vr though, and i get more than 60fps, allthough with not maxed out settings
20thBG_Blackwolf Posted February 11, 2017 Posted February 11, 2017 Hey guys, long story short..... I used to run an I7 4790k and 16 DDR3 rams with a GTX980ti... i had horrible performance in VR. Tested everything there is and was able to fix it enough so i could run 45fps constantly in both 1.5 and 2.0. Updated to 1.5.6 and now im only getting 22 fps. Unplayable. Today I updated to an I7 7700 and 16 DDR4 ram and I get exactly, and I mean EXACTLY, the same performance. 22 fps in 1.5.6. What should I do? Do yall think a complete re download and reinstall will help? thanks I run A FX 8320 8 core,16 gig ddr4 ram with a XFX rx480 8 gig 250 ssd and a vive. My VR in 1.5.6 is about 25 to 30 sometimes dipping as low as 10 over cities or more than 5 A/C! It runs ok but is jerky as you look around. I've tried different settings and even OC my GPU..same thing. 2.0.5 is much better 45 to 55 FPS and smooth. I don't think a reload will help. I think its the way the older game engine treats VR. If you do reinstall and it works let us know! BSD Discord , BSD Website If it doesn't hover, it just sucks and blows
cthulhu68 Posted February 11, 2017 Posted February 11, 2017 Are your versions up to date? A terrain loading issue that crashed performance in VR was just fixed.
cthulhu68 Posted February 11, 2017 Posted February 11, 2017 What is VR? VOICE RESPONCE? Virtual Reality
20thBG_Blackwolf Posted February 11, 2017 Posted February 11, 2017 Are your versions up to date? A terrain loading issue that crashed performance in VR was just fixed. Mine are. BSD Discord , BSD Website If it doesn't hover, it just sucks and blows
20thBG_Blackwolf Posted February 11, 2017 Posted February 11, 2017 After lots of cussing,loading the latest AMD drivers and tweaking my system(turning down everything) and I'm able to get 25 to 30 FPS in 1.5.6 with the FC3 A/C. About 20 on the clickpits in VR..so its better. It looks to me like the guys saying it runs good all have 32 gig ram, double what I have. I guess I need to upgrade that. But its flyable..no eye candy.. but it works. BSD Discord , BSD Website If it doesn't hover, it just sucks and blows
tribundf Posted February 11, 2017 Author Posted February 11, 2017 It's definitely a Dcs software issue. Wiping everything clean and put a fresh win7 on it to see if it shows an improvement. What I heard also is that cloud density may cause low framrates. Havent checked that one out yet. I'll be at work until late but will give it a try later on. Btw, I also upgraded to a gtx 1080 today and have absolutely no performance change. Exactly the same as before..... it has to be some software conflict or so
Demon_ Posted February 11, 2017 Posted February 11, 2017 From a i7 4790K (4.4Ghz) to a i7 7700 (4.2Ghz), it's like a downgrade... Try another video drivers, low down some game settings... Attache ta tuque avec d'la broche.
BitMaster Posted February 12, 2017 Posted February 12, 2017 From a i7 4790K (4.4Ghz) to a i7 7700 (4.2Ghz), it's like a downgrade... Try another video drivers, low down some game settings... ???? you are wrong ( again ) 4790k = 4.0/4.4 7700k = 4.2/4.5 it's not a downgrade, it's more or less the same chip, just a smaller die :) Gigabyte Aorus X570S Master - Ryzen 5900X - Gskill 64GB 3200/CL14@3600/CL14 - Sapphire Nitro+ 7800XT - 4x Samsung 980Pro 1TB - 1x Samsung 870 Evo 1TB - 1x SanDisc 120GB SSD - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT@9x120mm Noctua F12 - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus XG27ACG QHD 180Hz - Corsair K70 RGB Pro - Win11 Pro/Linux - Phanteks Evolv-X
Demon_ Posted February 12, 2017 Posted February 12, 2017 Bit my friend, I think he's not a K. Look at the post #1. And yes, even with a K, it's not an upgrade :D Attache ta tuque avec d'la broche.
SW0RDF15H Posted February 12, 2017 Posted February 12, 2017 Hey guys, long story short..... I used to run an I7 4790k and 16 DDR3 rams with a GTX980ti... i had horrible performance in VR. Tested everything there is and was able to fix it enough so i could run 45fps constantly in both 1.5 and 2.0. Updated to 1.5.6 and now im only getting 22 fps. Unplayable. Today I updated to an I7 7700 and 16 DDR4 ram and I get exactly, and I mean EXACTLY, the same performance. 22 fps in 1.5.6. What should I do? Do yall think a complete re download and reinstall will help? thanks With your new hardware, you can run DCs 2.0 at 90fps - I do, although it's taken me months to get it all right. 1.5 will not run anywhere near this fast, so stick with 2.0. To get 90hz smooth on 2.0 you need to: Reinstall Windows ( must eliminate any potential problems) Keep all in game settings on MAX, but turn Shadows to 'Flat' - visibility to 'Medium' - depth of field 'Off' - MSAA to '2x' - VR pixel density to 1.2 (may have to leave it at 1.0 if using the 980ti - get the 1080ti when it's out) MAKE SURE V SYNC IS 'OFF'!!!!!!!!!! Make sure XMP profile for the RAM is activated in BIOS. You'll should easily save 1ms frame time from this, which is more than what it sounds, in VR.... (If you're okay for money, Try and get hold of the fastest RAM possible at 16GB, no less. Don't let anyone try to tell you RAM doesn't make a difference. Gave me nearly an extra millisecond again, by getting faster G skill DDR4 over the Corsair stuff I had before.) Shouldn't need to overclock your CPU to get the same results as me, since your Kaby Lake auto clocks to the same speed as my Skylake is overclocked to currently. Lastly, I recently posted a method where you use two PCs, using one as a server to host your DCS mission, while the PC you're actually playing on connects as a client - this forces the AI and objects positions to be rendered by the 'server' freeing up additional headroom for your main PC, I'll go grab the link. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Check out my F15C BFM & ACM Training Missions: https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/2167735/ [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
SW0RDF15H Posted February 12, 2017 Posted February 12, 2017 Bit my friend, I think he's not a K. Look at the post #1. And yes, even with a K, it's not an upgrade :D With respect, you're wrong. The use of DDR4 RAM makes more difference than anyone will believe. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Check out my F15C BFM & ACM Training Missions: https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/2167735/ [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Haukka81 Posted February 12, 2017 Posted February 12, 2017 Skylake series CPU's will get more speed from fast DDR4 ram , i have 3000mhz DDR4 and its much better than if i run it 2133Mhz. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Oculus CV1, Odyssey, Pimax 5k+ (i5 8400, 24gb ddr4 3000mhz, 1080Ti OC ) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
SW0RDF15H Posted February 12, 2017 Posted February 12, 2017 Skylake series CPU's will get more speed from fast DDR4 ram , i have 3000mhz DDR4 and its much better than if i run it 2133Mhz. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Absolutely! Massive difference Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Check out my F15C BFM & ACM Training Missions: https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/2167735/ [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
SW0RDF15H Posted February 12, 2017 Posted February 12, 2017 With your new hardware, you can run DCs 2.0 at 90fps - I do, although it's taken me months to get it all right. 1.5 will not run anywhere near this fast, so stick with 2.0. To get 90hz smooth on 2.0 you need to: Reinstall Windows ( must eliminate any potential problems) Keep all in game settings on MAX, but turn Shadows to 'Flat' - visibility to 'Medium' - depth of field 'Off' - MSAA to '2x' - VR pixel density to 1.2 (may have to leave it at 1.0 if using the 980ti - get the 1080ti when it's out) MAKE SURE V SYNC IS 'OFF'!!!!!!!!!! Make sure XMP profile for the RAM is activated in BIOS. You'll should easily save 1ms frame time from this, which is more than what it sounds, in VR.... (If you're okay for money, Try and get hold of the fastest RAM possible at 16GB, no less. Don't let anyone try to tell you RAM doesn't make a difference. Gave me nearly an extra millisecond again, by getting faster G skill DDR4 over the Corsair stuff I had before.) Shouldn't need to overclock your CPU to get the same results as me, since your Kaby Lake auto clocks to the same speed as my Skylake is overclocked to currently. Lastly, I recently posted a method where you use two PCs, using one as a server to host your DCS mission, while the PC you're actually playing on connects as a client - this forces the AI and objects positions to be rendered by the 'server' freeing up additional headroom for your main PC, I'll go grab the link. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Tip for increased performance - Use second PC as server!!! https://r.tapatalk.com/shareLink?share_fid=74365&share_tid=182657&url=https%3A%2F%2Fforums%2Eeagle%2Eru%2Fshowthread%2Ephp%3Ft%3D182657&share_type=t Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Check out my F15C BFM & ACM Training Missions: https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/2167735/ [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
BitMaster Posted February 13, 2017 Posted February 13, 2017 Tip for increased performance - Use second PC as server!!! https://r.tapatalk.com/shareLink?share_fid=74365&share_tid=182657&url=https%3A%2F%2Fforums%2Eeagle%2Eru%2Fshowthread%2Ephp%3Ft%3D182657&share_type=t Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk +1 for the outsourced server :D ..and yes, RAM Speed does matter, it's one of the things often misjudged when it comes to latency in specific scenarios. 3600 :) ( The downside is a UP with the VCC-SA Voltage, Asus pushes mine to 1.35V ...put it back to 1.25 and still OK, tho not a single Watt less in the graph through this ?! ) Gigabyte Aorus X570S Master - Ryzen 5900X - Gskill 64GB 3200/CL14@3600/CL14 - Sapphire Nitro+ 7800XT - 4x Samsung 980Pro 1TB - 1x Samsung 870 Evo 1TB - 1x SanDisc 120GB SSD - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT@9x120mm Noctua F12 - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus XG27ACG QHD 180Hz - Corsair K70 RGB Pro - Win11 Pro/Linux - Phanteks Evolv-X
SW0RDF15H Posted February 13, 2017 Posted February 13, 2017 +1 for the outsourced server :D ..and yes, RAM Speed does matter, it's one of the things often misjudged when it comes to latency in specific scenarios. 3600 :) ( The downside is a UP with the VCC-SA Voltage, Asus pushes mine to 1.35V ...put it back to 1.25 and still OK, tho not a single Watt less in the graph through this ?! ) Lol - first world problems! :) Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Check out my F15C BFM & ACM Training Missions: https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/2167735/ [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
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