504MrWolf Posted December 5, 2006 Posted December 5, 2006 "Dedicated to Kenan - I love you man !! **SNIFF" Pictures taken from http://mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/flankers_pages/weapons.htm Anti-spin rockets: Wingtip laser designator/nav device: :helpsmilie: Anyone know what are these for? www.VVS504.co.uk www.lockonskins.co.uk
p_o_d_2_2 Posted December 5, 2006 Posted December 5, 2006 i'd venture a guess that anti-spin rockets have something to do with stopping a spin.
S77th-GOYA Posted December 5, 2006 Posted December 5, 2006 The second one is for laser designation and navigation. The first has something to do with Bill O'Reilly.
Ardillita Posted December 5, 2006 Posted December 5, 2006 strange... "somebody" still has not showed up saying those are sci-fi mockups of never developed weapons...
spugnut Posted December 5, 2006 Posted December 5, 2006 Yon anti-spin rockets look like a way of saving a really expensive aircraft. I'd guess that if you were in a flat spin, then firing the appropriate rocket (I'm founding this on the idea that the rocket stays on it's mount!) would sap the spin, and then firing both rockets and burners would give you enough airspeed to get the aircraft out of a stall condition. As to the LTD, it looks as though that's a gimbaled laser reflector - it allows you to designate and lock targets in a much larger zone than a forward looking system like the ShkVAL we have in FC. I'd guess that the module above the 'disco ball' is too small for a targeting laser, so I'd bet on their being some interior reflectors to take a beam from the primary (forward looking) laser. Just my guesses. Lt. Commander Block: Every aerial photo and recon report indicate a defensive arsenal in the D, and perhaps negative C, categories. There's also some anti-aircraft squadrons. Admiral Benson: I don't have a clue what you're talkin' about, Phil. Not a clue. I have a shell the size of a fist in my head. Pork Chop Hill. The only way I can make this toupee to stay on is by magnetizing the entire upper left quadrant of my skull, so you just go ahead and do what you do.
FrankTheSpank Posted December 5, 2006 Posted December 5, 2006 Yon anti-spin rockets look like a way of saving a really expensive aircraft. And saving lives. This looks like it could be an airshow safety net. It's such a good idea it should be required that any aircraft doing any type of displays besides a basic flyby should have these rockets loaded. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Prophet_169th Posted December 5, 2006 Posted December 5, 2006 That 'laser' looks the same as the ones we use on humvees for MILES simulation.
GGTharos Posted December 5, 2006 Posted December 5, 2006 strange... "somebody" still has not showed up saying those are sci-fi mockups of never developed weapons... You really have to stop fixating so much on me ... seriously. What will people think? ;) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
SVK_Fox Posted December 5, 2006 Posted December 5, 2006 I think that second one is IR missiles warning device, I saw it in some publication, can make a clooser look for it.
spugnut Posted December 5, 2006 Posted December 5, 2006 Hmm.. I guess that the second one could be an IR detector system for picking up the IR spike generated by a missile launch - but I think it'd be very difficult to seperate the signature of a launch from that of an aircraft going to full burners. (This is probably why I don't work in detector tech!) As to the 'tickler' hawg, I'd be very scared of any bedroom device capable of generating a coupla thousand foot pounds of thrust! "It's not a threat to you darling - honestly" Lt. Commander Block: Every aerial photo and recon report indicate a defensive arsenal in the D, and perhaps negative C, categories. There's also some anti-aircraft squadrons. Admiral Benson: I don't have a clue what you're talkin' about, Phil. Not a clue. I have a shell the size of a fist in my head. Pork Chop Hill. The only way I can make this toupee to stay on is by magnetizing the entire upper left quadrant of my skull, so you just go ahead and do what you do.
SVK_Fox Posted December 5, 2006 Posted December 5, 2006 Hmm.. I guess that the second one could be an IR detector system for picking up the IR spike generated by a missile launch - but I think it'd be very difficult to seperate the signature of a launch from that of an aircraft going to full burners. (This is probably why I don't work in detector tech!) As to the 'tickler' hawg, I'd be very scared of any bedroom device capable of generating a coupla thousand foot pounds of thrust! "It's not a threat to you darling - honestly" Yes this is similar as I read and also they still want to impooove it and make it operational. Here is aslo another link of my source http://legion.wplus.net/guide/air/i/su27ll.shtml
Force_Feedback Posted December 5, 2006 Posted December 5, 2006 Yes this is similar as I read and also they still want to impooove it and make it operational. Here is aslo another link of my source http://legion.wplus.net/guide/air/i/su27ll.shtml God d#%*, that is a good site, even has the development graph of the su-27 family. It should be mandatory to know it for every lomac fan!!! The test will ve in a week from now, with tricky historical questions on the early days of the su-27... here we go again: Creedence Clearwater Revival:worthy:
Frostie Posted December 5, 2006 Posted December 5, 2006 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ JEes..look at the AE's on that 'Use the force Luke', springs to mind. "[51☭] FROSTIE" #55 'Red 5'. Lord Flashheart 51st PVO "Bisons" - 100 KIAP Regiment Fastest MiG pilot in the world - TCR'10 https://100kiap.org
GGTharos Posted December 5, 2006 Posted December 5, 2006 Um, those are (E)Rs... [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
MiGMadness Posted December 5, 2006 Posted December 5, 2006 I think the most important bit of information that can be taken from that photo is that they have chosen an extra 2 R-73's rather than 27ET's. :detective_2:
Force_Feedback Posted December 5, 2006 Posted December 5, 2006 I think the most important bit of information that can be taken from that photo is that they have chosen an extra 2 R-73's rather than 27ET's. :detective_2: It has a 27T to make up for in length. Creedence Clearwater Revival:worthy:
Prophet_169th Posted December 6, 2006 Posted December 6, 2006 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ JEes..look at the AE's on that 'Use the force Luke', springs to mind. I am still thinking about what this is. It definately seems to be for lasers, as each of those holes is a retro--reflector. It allows a laser beam that hits it, the be reflected back at a given angle regardless of incoming angle. I seem to think this is for combat simulations, as why would you want to reflect the beam for navigation, or even just detection.
GGTharos Posted December 6, 2006 Posted December 6, 2006 How about a MAWS? ;) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
Prophet_169th Posted December 6, 2006 Posted December 6, 2006 Please expand on that acronym....... ;) I am guessing Missile ? Warning System? Any documentation on that? I did find: http://www.deos.tudelft.nl/ers/lrr.html Though its not a sphere, you can definately tell that the unit mounted on the Su-27? Is a retro-reflector array.
GGTharos Posted December 6, 2006 Posted December 6, 2006 Missile aproach warning system. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
nscode Posted December 6, 2006 Posted December 6, 2006 Could be a light meter for a moovie camera Never forget that World War III was not Cold for most of us.
ARM505 Posted December 6, 2006 Posted December 6, 2006 It's a device designed to increase forum traffic on aviation and simulator related forums.
Force_Feedback Posted December 6, 2006 Posted December 6, 2006 Try toking some other kind of weed, this one makes you all mellow and annoying. Try White Widow, or some Super Haze, then chill, bro. Chill... Relax... Creedence Clearwater Revival:worthy:
Prophet_169th Posted December 6, 2006 Posted December 6, 2006 IBTB (in before the ban) Well I know those are retro-reflectors, that is obvious. I am just trying to figure out for what. And its puff puff give, not puff puff puff puff puff..... you're screwing up the rotation man.
SVK_Fox Posted December 6, 2006 Posted December 6, 2006 IBTB (in before the ban) Well I know those are retro-reflectors, that is obvious. I am just trying to figure out for what. And its puff puff give, not puff puff puff puff puff..... you're screwing up the rotation man. Man, I can agree with you, on university I lear about landsurvive and about GPS and so, and those reflectors looks very close to those whitch we used to reflect laser signal from mirror reflection pentagrams back to "machine". And we were able to read distance angle and so. I am not able find anz photo on internet of that mirrors but you can sometimes see guys with that thing in terrain :)
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