terminator363 Posted May 30, 2017 Posted May 30, 2017 I have so many microstuttters is there a possible fix? Happy Bug Hunting!
=DECOY= Posted May 30, 2017 Posted May 30, 2017 Can you provide a bit more detail? *Which map *Whats your set-up / settings. *In Single Player or Multiplayer ? Water cooled i9-9900K | Maximus Code XI MB | RTX3090 | 64GB | HP Reverb G2
terminator363 Posted May 30, 2017 Author Posted May 30, 2017 (edited) Can you provide a bit more detail? *Which map *Whats your set-up / settings. *In Single Player or Multiplayer ? Georgia (1.5.6.5199) OS: Win 10 Pro x64 RAM: 16GB 1600 CPU: i5 3570K HDD: 3x 1TB Seagate Barracuda RAID 5 MOBO: Z77A-GD55 GPU: GTX 1060 3GB Textures High Terrain High Civ. T High Water High Visib R High Heat Blur High Shadows Medium Res 1080p Res. of Cockpit 512 MSAA 16x HDR on DoF off LE None Clutter/Grass 1500 Trees Visib 14490 Preload Radius 100284 Aniso. Filter 8x Terrain Obj. Shadows Default Vsync On Fullscreen On Single & Multiplayer (Usually sit at around 60-50 fps) Edited May 31, 2017 by terminator363 Happy Bug Hunting!
JG14_Smil Posted May 31, 2017 Posted May 31, 2017 When you say full screen, are you doing the ALT ENTER each time? For me, stutters aren't caused by DCS settings. I also use 8x MSAA and 16x AS without problems and I can't use full screen due to my mismatched multi-monitor setup. Optimizing the system takes a lot of experimenting and following threads with ideas to try. I know I stopped those constant stutters, mainly from this thread: https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=68060
terminator363 Posted May 31, 2017 Author Posted May 31, 2017 When you say full screen, are you doing the ALT ENTER each time? For me, stutters aren't caused by DCS settings. I also use 8x MSAA and 16x AS without problems and I can't use full screen due to my mismatched multi-monitor setup. Optimizing the system takes a lot of experimenting and following threads with ideas to try. I know I stopped those constant stutters, mainly from this thread: https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=68060 Nope, the DCS runs fullscreen natively for me. At first I thought I had micro stutters running on 8GB ram. I updated to 16GB and got a nice performance boost but the stutters were still there. I'll try the fix, I'll report back if it's still stuttering. Happy Bug Hunting!
Oscar Juliet Posted May 31, 2017 Posted May 31, 2017 Deferred shading and MSAA cause stutters. Turn off deferred shading or lower MSAA. Or wait for patch. My Youtube Channel
terminator363 Posted May 31, 2017 Author Posted May 31, 2017 Deferred shading and MSAA cause stutters. Turn off deferred shading or lower MSAA. Or wait for patch. I'm still running Georgia. Setting pre-rendered frames to 1 seems to help. Nvidia control panel won't let me set it to 0. I haven't done too much testing but single player seems pretty smooth now. I get some stutters online however :( . Happy Bug Hunting!
=DECOY= Posted June 9, 2017 Posted June 9, 2017 found this, could be worth a try. Water cooled i9-9900K | Maximus Code XI MB | RTX3090 | 64GB | HP Reverb G2
Coxy_99 Posted June 9, 2017 Posted June 9, 2017 found this, could be worth a try. Ill try it even tho my cpu is 4.0ghz
aceviper Posted June 9, 2017 Posted June 9, 2017 Turning down water from high makes a big difference.Gets 15 to 20 fps back around airfilelds when the fps dips. 16X msaa seems a tad high and could be pushing your gfx card.
Fakum Posted June 9, 2017 Posted June 9, 2017 Thats an informative Youtube Video! Thanks for the link. Wish there was a way that you did not have to setup the CPUs thru task manager every time you open DCS though. Windows 10 Pro - 64 Bit / ASUS ROG Strix B650E-F Gaming / AMD 7800X3D / G.Skill Trident Z5 NEO 64GB DDR5 6000 Ram / SSD M.2 SK hynix Platinum P41 2TB / MSI Gaming GeForce RTX 4090 SUPRIM Liquid X 24G / SteelSeries Arctis 7 Headset /LG-Ultragear 38" IPS LED Ultrawide HD Monitor (3840 x 1600) / Track IR4 / Thrustmaster TPR Pendular Rudder Pedals / Virpil HOTAS VPC Constellation ALPHA-R & VPC MongoosT-50CM3 Throttle
The_Nephilim Posted June 9, 2017 Posted June 9, 2017 Nope, the DCS runs fullscreen natively for me. At first I thought I had micro stutters running on 8GB ram. I updated to 16GB and got a nice performance boost but the stutters were still there. I'll try the fix, I'll report back if it's still stuttering. DCS Runs in Windowed Borderless whic]h looks like a FullsCreen but it is not.. try hitting ALT + Enter to get True full screen.. Intel Ultra 265K 5.5GHZ / Gigabyte Z890 Aorus Elite / MSI 4070Ti Ventus 12GB / SoundBlaster Z SoundCard / Corsair Vengance 64GB Ram / HP Reverb G2 / Samsung 980 Pro 2TB Games / Crucial 512GB M.2 Win 11 Pro 21H2 / ButtKicker Gamer / CoolerMaster TD500 Mesh V2 PC Case
BitMaster Posted June 10, 2017 Posted June 10, 2017 Maybe some I/O stutter, the game records permanently, loading stuff all the time and all that to a Raid-5 which has a significant access time slow down due to the nature of Raid-5's 3-drive syncing. Try a dedicated SSD for DCS and check again. Raid-5 is not made for gaming but servers and workstations where access time to small files is secondary. If Raid, than do a Raid-1, thats the only Raid that has the same fast access time as a single drive, all other RAIDS have NOT ! Gigabyte Aorus X570S Master - Ryzen 5900X - Gskill 64GB 3200/CL14@3600/CL14 - Sapphire Nitro+ 7800XT - 4x Samsung 980Pro 1TB - 1x Samsung 870 Evo 1TB - 1x SanDisc 120GB SSD - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT@9x120mm Noctua F12 - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus XG27ACG QHD 180Hz - Corsair K70 RGB Pro - Win11 Pro/Linux - Phanteks Evolv-X
terminator363 Posted June 14, 2017 Author Posted June 14, 2017 Maybe some I/O stutter, the game records permanently, loading stuff all the time and all that to a Raid-5 which has a significant access time slow down due to the nature of Raid-5's 3-drive syncing. Try a dedicated SSD for DCS and check again. Raid-5 is not made for gaming but servers and workstations where access time to small files is secondary. If Raid, than do a Raid-1, thats the only Raid that has the same fast access time as a single drive, all other RAIDS have NOT ! I was worried this might be the problem but would my OS have to run on an SSD so DCS gets a speed boost? I hate partitions and like having my default drive my RAID volume. I do a lot of photography and like having my C drive huge. Would plugging in an SSD and only putting DCS on it fix all of my problems? Happy Bug Hunting!
BitMaster Posted June 15, 2017 Posted June 15, 2017 Tons of Microstutters It will likely fix a few issues, YES! With DCS alone on the ssd is fine, but the other works too if the ssd is large enough . Gesendet von iPhone mit Tapatalk Gigabyte Aorus X570S Master - Ryzen 5900X - Gskill 64GB 3200/CL14@3600/CL14 - Sapphire Nitro+ 7800XT - 4x Samsung 980Pro 1TB - 1x Samsung 870 Evo 1TB - 1x SanDisc 120GB SSD - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT@9x120mm Noctua F12 - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus XG27ACG QHD 180Hz - Corsair K70 RGB Pro - Win11 Pro/Linux - Phanteks Evolv-X
terminator363 Posted June 15, 2017 Author Posted June 15, 2017 I wonder that DCS will access information from the RAID volume (like registry idk what else) and would still be bottlenecked by the HDD. Is that possible? I just don't want to dish out some money on an SSD for it to do nothing Happy Bug Hunting!
BitMaster Posted June 17, 2017 Posted June 17, 2017 Possibly yes, install/move everything to an SSD and use your Raid-5 for storing DATA and not running your OS or Apps from. If you do that, like in servers, get a PROPER Raid controller from Adaptec and 10k or better 15k-rpm drives, summa sumarum 2.000-3.000 Euros. one or two SSD's are WAY cheaper than a real Raid. Intel Raid is not a true Raid. Once you have to do a rebuild you will find out why the bad way. If you have the need for Data Integrity the cheap way, do a SSD Raid-1 with the Intel chip, that is also somewhar speedy and reliable. I use that myself on one of the new "budgeted" servers and I forced it into a rebuild before it went into production to see HOW it performs. It's OK. But a Raid-1 is a simple 1:1 copy whereas a Raid-5 is checksum driven and much more intense. There is no Raid-on-Chip Hardware driven acceleration and last time I had to do it it took 3 days on 3 x 500GB....THREE DAYS !!!!!!!!!!! While it was rebuilding the logical drive the computer was UNUSEABLE. With a proper Controller you wouldnt even notice that it is rebuilding tbh. Gigabyte Aorus X570S Master - Ryzen 5900X - Gskill 64GB 3200/CL14@3600/CL14 - Sapphire Nitro+ 7800XT - 4x Samsung 980Pro 1TB - 1x Samsung 870 Evo 1TB - 1x SanDisc 120GB SSD - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT@9x120mm Noctua F12 - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus XG27ACG QHD 180Hz - Corsair K70 RGB Pro - Win11 Pro/Linux - Phanteks Evolv-X
BitMaster Posted June 17, 2017 Posted June 17, 2017 (edited) I forgot to add, just in case you need that info. Samsung has new 2.5" SAS SSD's "mixed usage" for affordable money. They are 12G and superior to any consumer SSD. The Controllers are usually PCIe x8 and thus you can smoke a NvME if you just add enough drives. Have a proper board ( X99, X299, new AMD-Threadripper too )with enough PCIe lanes and you can even double or tripple smoke the NvME if your Lanes connect to the CPU directly and not the PCH which itself is VERY limited when it comes to real throughput in workstation environment Bundle those with a 4/8/16-Port Adaptec RoC Controller and you can have true Raid that deserves the name. Still, this is minimum 2 Grand and above for all together, 3+ SAS-SSD + Controller + Cableset+BBU. Edited June 17, 2017 by BitMaster Gigabyte Aorus X570S Master - Ryzen 5900X - Gskill 64GB 3200/CL14@3600/CL14 - Sapphire Nitro+ 7800XT - 4x Samsung 980Pro 1TB - 1x Samsung 870 Evo 1TB - 1x SanDisc 120GB SSD - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT@9x120mm Noctua F12 - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus XG27ACG QHD 180Hz - Corsair K70 RGB Pro - Win11 Pro/Linux - Phanteks Evolv-X
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