ED Team BIGNEWY Posted June 13, 2017 ED Team Posted June 13, 2017 Yes, I choosen to keep the files obviously, as I have TONS of skins so I performed the clean also... So it looks like I'm NOT the only one with this issue, but I still reading [uSER ISSUE] in the title :noexpression: The title of the thread is not important here, but I will change it if it makes you happy. What matters is that as testers we can not reproduce the issue, until we can determine what is causing the issue we are stuck. Can I ask you to remove all user modifications, run a cleanup and repair, and then repeat the problem and attach your fresh logs. Also do you use any graphics programmes on your machine? Could something be interfering with your install? I will do my best to help you Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, PIMAX Crystal
Ala12Rv-watermanpc Posted June 13, 2017 Author Posted June 13, 2017 (edited) The only reason for insisting in the title is what I already said saveral times: others may have the issue and overlook the thread, just that. You could try flying a new mission (starting the ME already in Normandy) and setting a mig-29 to take-off from Maupertus in May at 14h...it seems to have more chances to break when I make many changes and start on the ground, although not necessarily. The only mod I have is one for the F-5 input (WH Throttle) which I already removed several times to check with no success. Also made several repairs. About software, I only use MSI Afterburner and RivaTuner for limiting FPS to 60, but no overlay of any kind. Also, I made a clean up, but maintaining my skins of course so I will try disabling Riva tunner limiter but other than that don't know what else to do... thanks for your help! EDIT: forgot to mention I also use AF, vsync and triple buffer from NV control panel. Edited June 13, 2017 by watermanpc Take a look at my MODS here
Justificus Posted June 13, 2017 Posted June 13, 2017 strange, not seeing this myself just to check, you have Removed all user modifications if any. Check done a cleanup and repair, Check and check. and tried a fresh saved games dcs folder? Check. And as I said above, I've uninstalled both the NTTR and Normandy modules and reinstalled them. Things didn't start out this way, just happened out of the blue two days ago and has stayed this way ever since. Justificus System Specs:i7 4970K @ 4.8, GTX 1080 SC, 32GB G.Skill DDR 2133,Thermaltake Level 10 Full Tower Case, Noctua NH-D15 6 Cooler, Win 10 Pro, Warthog, CH Pro Pedals, CH Throttle Quadrant, Oculus, 1 32" & 2 19" Monitors Modules Owned: A-10C I+II, Ka-50, FC3, F-86, Mig-15, Mig21, UH-1H, Mi-8, CA, P-51D, BF-109K-4, FW-190 D-9, Hawk, NTTR, M-2000C, SA342, F-5E, Spit Mk. IX, AJS-37, Normandy, WWII A.P., AV-8B, F/A-18C, L-39, Persian Gulf, Mig-19P, I-16, Super Carrier, F-16, Channel, Syria
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted June 13, 2017 ED Team Posted June 13, 2017 I have had another try this morning, on public and internal builds, and I am unable to reproduce. I thought it might be an issue with switching terrains often as we have seen that in earlier builds, but not this time sorry, all seems ok for me Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, PIMAX Crystal
Justificus Posted June 13, 2017 Posted June 13, 2017 (edited) Very weird. I did all of the above steps again and now the terrain is back to normal! Not sure which step did it as I only tested at the very end not really expecting anything different this time around... Hopefully it won't pop up again!! EDIT: Spoke too soon, flew my test mission and it was back... Was gone the first time I flew it but now it's back. :( Would love to know what is causing this for me. Now NTTR is looking like crap, even the cockpit textures... Edited June 13, 2017 by Justificus Add info Justificus System Specs:i7 4970K @ 4.8, GTX 1080 SC, 32GB G.Skill DDR 2133,Thermaltake Level 10 Full Tower Case, Noctua NH-D15 6 Cooler, Win 10 Pro, Warthog, CH Pro Pedals, CH Throttle Quadrant, Oculus, 1 32" & 2 19" Monitors Modules Owned: A-10C I+II, Ka-50, FC3, F-86, Mig-15, Mig21, UH-1H, Mi-8, CA, P-51D, BF-109K-4, FW-190 D-9, Hawk, NTTR, M-2000C, SA342, F-5E, Spit Mk. IX, AJS-37, Normandy, WWII A.P., AV-8B, F/A-18C, L-39, Persian Gulf, Mig-19P, I-16, Super Carrier, F-16, Channel, Syria
Justificus Posted June 13, 2017 Posted June 13, 2017 (edited) Well, for the heck of it I went into the nVidia control panel and selected DCS under the manage 3D settings. Clicked on restore to have it revert back to preload settings and it was back!!! I then changed Anisotropic filtering from 8x to 4X and the textures were all messed up again. Changed it back to 8x and no difference... clicked on restore again (only made it go from 8x to global setting 8x) and was still messed up... Thought I had figured it out, even though I hadn't changed any settings prior to this happening... EDIT: I go back into the game and start up the same mission and now the textures are back to normal! I really don't get this... Edited June 13, 2017 by Justificus Add info Justificus System Specs:i7 4970K @ 4.8, GTX 1080 SC, 32GB G.Skill DDR 2133,Thermaltake Level 10 Full Tower Case, Noctua NH-D15 6 Cooler, Win 10 Pro, Warthog, CH Pro Pedals, CH Throttle Quadrant, Oculus, 1 32" & 2 19" Monitors Modules Owned: A-10C I+II, Ka-50, FC3, F-86, Mig-15, Mig21, UH-1H, Mi-8, CA, P-51D, BF-109K-4, FW-190 D-9, Hawk, NTTR, M-2000C, SA342, F-5E, Spit Mk. IX, AJS-37, Normandy, WWII A.P., AV-8B, F/A-18C, L-39, Persian Gulf, Mig-19P, I-16, Super Carrier, F-16, Channel, Syria
Ala12Rv-watermanpc Posted June 13, 2017 Author Posted June 13, 2017 yes mate, I have also made many conbinations of things to try to understand whats going on, but no luck for now... also disabled reshade but nope... sometimes it works fine others it doesnt, whats more, I think it NEVER works fine because as I said in previous post trees are not looking correctly when the ground textures are working correctly and when terrain textures work fine trees are not so... very, very weird.... Take a look at my MODS here
Justificus Posted June 14, 2017 Posted June 14, 2017 After things were working well again I thought that was the end of it. Nope. I had played another game (GC3) and then had dinner and then fired up DCS again. Textures were all messed up once again... Now I'm not thinking it's DCS but nVidia. We both have their cards... So I downgraded my driver from 382.33s and 382.53s to 376.33s. textures were back! We'll see if they stay that way... Justificus System Specs:i7 4970K @ 4.8, GTX 1080 SC, 32GB G.Skill DDR 2133,Thermaltake Level 10 Full Tower Case, Noctua NH-D15 6 Cooler, Win 10 Pro, Warthog, CH Pro Pedals, CH Throttle Quadrant, Oculus, 1 32" & 2 19" Monitors Modules Owned: A-10C I+II, Ka-50, FC3, F-86, Mig-15, Mig21, UH-1H, Mi-8, CA, P-51D, BF-109K-4, FW-190 D-9, Hawk, NTTR, M-2000C, SA342, F-5E, Spit Mk. IX, AJS-37, Normandy, WWII A.P., AV-8B, F/A-18C, L-39, Persian Gulf, Mig-19P, I-16, Super Carrier, F-16, Channel, Syria
Ala12Rv-watermanpc Posted June 14, 2017 Author Posted June 14, 2017 After things were working well again I thought that was the end of it. Nope. I had played another game (GC3) and then had dinner and then fired up DCS again. Textures were all messed up once again... Now I'm not thinking it's DCS but nVidia. We both have their cards... So I downgraded my driver from 382.33s and 382.53s to 376.33s. textures were back! We'll see if they stay that way... I remember having this issue also with the previous drivers, and after updating them the problem was there also but didnt tried older ones so maybe thats the problem although many people here have nvida cards so I think many people would have reported the issue...anyway, please, report your findigs :thumbup: thanks a lot!!:) Take a look at my MODS here
Justificus Posted June 14, 2017 Posted June 14, 2017 I remember having this issue also with the previous drivers, and after updating them the problem was there also but didnt tried older ones so maybe thats the problem although many people here have nvida cards so I think many people would have reported the issue...anyway, please, report your findigs :thumbup: thanks a lot!!:) Yeah, I know many have nvidia cards, but I'm at the end of my rope trying to figure this one out and am trying anything. Just booted up and tried the test mission out and the textures are messed up again... so much for that brilliant idea! lol Here's hoping the update fixes it for us few... Justificus System Specs:i7 4970K @ 4.8, GTX 1080 SC, 32GB G.Skill DDR 2133,Thermaltake Level 10 Full Tower Case, Noctua NH-D15 6 Cooler, Win 10 Pro, Warthog, CH Pro Pedals, CH Throttle Quadrant, Oculus, 1 32" & 2 19" Monitors Modules Owned: A-10C I+II, Ka-50, FC3, F-86, Mig-15, Mig21, UH-1H, Mi-8, CA, P-51D, BF-109K-4, FW-190 D-9, Hawk, NTTR, M-2000C, SA342, F-5E, Spit Mk. IX, AJS-37, Normandy, WWII A.P., AV-8B, F/A-18C, L-39, Persian Gulf, Mig-19P, I-16, Super Carrier, F-16, Channel, Syria
Ala12Rv-watermanpc Posted June 14, 2017 Author Posted June 14, 2017 Yeah, I know many have nvidia cards, but I'm at the end of my rope trying to figure this one out and am trying anything. Just booted up and tried the test mission out and the textures are messed up again... so much for that brilliant idea! lol Here's hoping the update fixes it for us few... Looks like we will have to wait...https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=3167849&postcount=28 Take a look at my MODS here
Justificus Posted June 14, 2017 Posted June 14, 2017 (edited) AddLooks like we will have to wait...https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=3167849&postcount=28 Yeah, I saw that. Better to wait and have less bugs and therefore things for me to bitch about. ;) Seeing the older drivers weren't working I reinstalled the latest ones and the terrain is back the last 3x I checked! This is weird...:crazy: EDIT: The real kicker to all this is that after all this effort trying to resolve this texture issue, and it seems to be back to normal again for now..., is that all the things I"ve done have broken all the missions I've made and downloaded for Normandy... Hours of time wasted...At least NTTR is still good and I"ve staying with that for now as the frustration level is just too high ATM... Edited June 15, 2017 by Justificus Add info Justificus System Specs:i7 4970K @ 4.8, GTX 1080 SC, 32GB G.Skill DDR 2133,Thermaltake Level 10 Full Tower Case, Noctua NH-D15 6 Cooler, Win 10 Pro, Warthog, CH Pro Pedals, CH Throttle Quadrant, Oculus, 1 32" & 2 19" Monitors Modules Owned: A-10C I+II, Ka-50, FC3, F-86, Mig-15, Mig21, UH-1H, Mi-8, CA, P-51D, BF-109K-4, FW-190 D-9, Hawk, NTTR, M-2000C, SA342, F-5E, Spit Mk. IX, AJS-37, Normandy, WWII A.P., AV-8B, F/A-18C, L-39, Persian Gulf, Mig-19P, I-16, Super Carrier, F-16, Channel, Syria
SkateZilla Posted June 16, 2017 Posted June 16, 2017 What Season are you running the missions in? Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs
Justificus Posted June 16, 2017 Posted June 16, 2017 What Season are you running the missions in? I've tried Spring, Summer and Fall. I figured out it was my video setting for my graphics card that was conflicting with the game's settings. Once I made nvidia go back to its' average settings for DCS, things started to work again, though the graphical texture issue is back... Justificus System Specs:i7 4970K @ 4.8, GTX 1080 SC, 32GB G.Skill DDR 2133,Thermaltake Level 10 Full Tower Case, Noctua NH-D15 6 Cooler, Win 10 Pro, Warthog, CH Pro Pedals, CH Throttle Quadrant, Oculus, 1 32" & 2 19" Monitors Modules Owned: A-10C I+II, Ka-50, FC3, F-86, Mig-15, Mig21, UH-1H, Mi-8, CA, P-51D, BF-109K-4, FW-190 D-9, Hawk, NTTR, M-2000C, SA342, F-5E, Spit Mk. IX, AJS-37, Normandy, WWII A.P., AV-8B, F/A-18C, L-39, Persian Gulf, Mig-19P, I-16, Super Carrier, F-16, Channel, Syria
Ala12Rv-watermanpc Posted June 17, 2017 Author Posted June 17, 2017 it can happen in any season, although it happens much less in summer. I mean, if the first season you load after starting DCS is summer, then it might work fine and once it loads and works fine it will work fine in any other season. If you start the game and load a different season from summer chances of getting the bug are higher. Btw, I havent had the issue since a few days.. have no idea why but just updated to latest nvidia drivers (which is weird because Justificus seems to have the issue even more with this drivers)... Take a look at my MODS here
Justificus Posted June 17, 2017 Posted June 17, 2017 Yeah, I've even gone as far as downloading the Alpha and all modules again to see if that by some odd chance may fix it. After several hours and 50+gb of downloading no change... can't seem to get rid of it now for some reason. 1 Justificus System Specs:i7 4970K @ 4.8, GTX 1080 SC, 32GB G.Skill DDR 2133,Thermaltake Level 10 Full Tower Case, Noctua NH-D15 6 Cooler, Win 10 Pro, Warthog, CH Pro Pedals, CH Throttle Quadrant, Oculus, 1 32" & 2 19" Monitors Modules Owned: A-10C I+II, Ka-50, FC3, F-86, Mig-15, Mig21, UH-1H, Mi-8, CA, P-51D, BF-109K-4, FW-190 D-9, Hawk, NTTR, M-2000C, SA342, F-5E, Spit Mk. IX, AJS-37, Normandy, WWII A.P., AV-8B, F/A-18C, L-39, Persian Gulf, Mig-19P, I-16, Super Carrier, F-16, Channel, Syria
Ala12Rv-watermanpc Posted June 18, 2017 Author Posted June 18, 2017 yeah, I see mate :cry:... btw, forget about what I said in my last post, I had the issue again :doh:... If I enter in DCS and then directly load a different season from summer, bang! problem is there... Take a look at my MODS here
Justificus Posted June 19, 2017 Posted June 19, 2017 ... If I enter in DCS and then directly load a different season from summer, bang! problem is there... Hmmm, I've not seen that. For the heck of it. I tried deleting my Saved Games folder (previously, I only moved it to another location and then made a new one) and made a new one. Problem gone! Copied back the old folders but didn't overwrite anything, still good! bad news is that my FPS were much worse than before. I then used the old option.lua file and the FPS are back and problem is still gone! Not sure how long it will last but this is the longest it has lasted since it initially "broke" on me a few days ago... fingers crossed Justificus System Specs:i7 4970K @ 4.8, GTX 1080 SC, 32GB G.Skill DDR 2133,Thermaltake Level 10 Full Tower Case, Noctua NH-D15 6 Cooler, Win 10 Pro, Warthog, CH Pro Pedals, CH Throttle Quadrant, Oculus, 1 32" & 2 19" Monitors Modules Owned: A-10C I+II, Ka-50, FC3, F-86, Mig-15, Mig21, UH-1H, Mi-8, CA, P-51D, BF-109K-4, FW-190 D-9, Hawk, NTTR, M-2000C, SA342, F-5E, Spit Mk. IX, AJS-37, Normandy, WWII A.P., AV-8B, F/A-18C, L-39, Persian Gulf, Mig-19P, I-16, Super Carrier, F-16, Channel, Syria
Ala12Rv-watermanpc Posted June 20, 2017 Author Posted June 20, 2017 Hmmm, I've not seen that. For the heck of it. I tried deleting my Saved Games folder (previously, I only moved it to another location and then made a new one) and made a new one. Problem gone! Copied back the old folders but didn't overwrite anything, still good! bad news is that my FPS were much worse than before. I then used the old option.lua file and the FPS are back and problem is still gone! Not sure how long it will last but this is the longest it has lasted since it initially "broke" on me a few days ago... fingers crossed Not sure I undertand you mate, sorry...you said you "deleted" the folder, but then you say that you "copied it back"??how if it was deleted??...also, whats the difference between deleting it or moving/renaming it and creating a new one??...I already tried renaming mine and creating a new one with no success but maybe what you made works... Take a look at my MODS here
cthulhu68 Posted June 20, 2017 Posted June 20, 2017 Your Saved Games folder might have a corrupt file in it but also contains a lot of things that are hard to replace. This is why you want to create a backup, delete the original one, start DCS to create a new one, and then copy and paste only your Config folder for control layouts , Missions ( downloaded ones), and weapon load outs back into your new Saved Games folder. Sometimes Options LUA is a problem so it's best to not copy that back in.
Justificus Posted June 20, 2017 Posted June 20, 2017 (edited) Not sure I undertand you mate, sorry...you said you "deleted" the folder, but then you say that you "copied it back"??how if it was deleted??...also, whats the difference between deleting it or moving/renaming it and creating a new one??...I already tried renaming mine and creating a new one with no success but maybe what you made works... I deleted it to the Windows Recycling Bin, then restored it. When I restored it, I didn't overwrite any files but kept both copies. that's when I renamed the Options.lua file (newly created one) and restored the old one. I can switch back and forth if need be but things have been fine since doing this. Obviously something got corrupt during one of my crashes... Edited June 20, 2017 by Justificus Add info Justificus System Specs:i7 4970K @ 4.8, GTX 1080 SC, 32GB G.Skill DDR 2133,Thermaltake Level 10 Full Tower Case, Noctua NH-D15 6 Cooler, Win 10 Pro, Warthog, CH Pro Pedals, CH Throttle Quadrant, Oculus, 1 32" & 2 19" Monitors Modules Owned: A-10C I+II, Ka-50, FC3, F-86, Mig-15, Mig21, UH-1H, Mi-8, CA, P-51D, BF-109K-4, FW-190 D-9, Hawk, NTTR, M-2000C, SA342, F-5E, Spit Mk. IX, AJS-37, Normandy, WWII A.P., AV-8B, F/A-18C, L-39, Persian Gulf, Mig-19P, I-16, Super Carrier, F-16, Channel, Syria
Ala12Rv-watermanpc Posted June 20, 2017 Author Posted June 20, 2017 Your Saved Games folder might have a corrupt file in it but also contains a lot of things that are hard to replace. This is why you want to create a backup, delete the original one, start DCS to create a new one, and then copy and paste only your Config folder for control layouts , Missions ( downloaded ones), and weapon load outs back into your new Saved Games folder. Sometimes Options LUA is a problem so it's best to not copy that back in. I have just done this (again)...first run and the problem showed again :doh:...I think I will wait until next patch and see if the texture problem they said have been fixed works also to solve this... Take a look at my MODS here
cthulhu68 Posted June 20, 2017 Posted June 20, 2017 Yea. They mentioned texture issues so they've probably found it.
Ala12Rv-watermanpc Posted June 22, 2017 Author Posted June 22, 2017 Ok, again, first run with the new version and the issue was there...:doh: Take a look at my MODS here
Esac_mirmidon Posted June 22, 2017 Posted June 22, 2017 I´m so sorry. Again not a single problem with textures on my rig. I was doing a lot of testing to be able to reproduce it but no luck. " You must think in russian.." [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Windows 7 Home Premium-Intel 2500K OC 4.6-SSD Samsung EVO 860- MSI GTX 1080 - 16G RAM - 1920x1080 27´ Hotas Rhino X-55-MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals -Track IR 4
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