1080p or 1440p??

[SLAG]

Hey guys,

I recently upgraded my GPU to the EVGA GTX 1070 SC. I plan on upgrading to a larger monitor like 27"-32" but I am stuck on whether to stay at 1080p @ 144Hz resolution or should I make the jump to 1440p 60Hz or 144 Hz resolution? I am leaning toward the IPS panels. I would like to maintain good performance at higher settings (not necessarily maxed settings) I am not convinced that my rig will be able to push 1440p @ 144Hz. May be ok at 60 Hz. Any advice, suggestions, experiences are greatly appreciated!

I have never done any overclocking but an open to the possibility

My specs:

Gigabyte Z77X-UD3H mainboard

I5 3570K @ 3.40 GHz processor(No OC)

16 GB DDR3 RAM

EVGA NVIDIA GTX 1070 SC

Samsung EVO 500Gb SSD

2TB mechanical hard drive

Corsair RM 1000 power supply

Corsair liquid cooler

Windows 10 home

[Demon_]

Higher is always better. The 1070 can take it. Your CPU run at 3.8Ghz in turbo mode (when gaming). At least, overclock at 4.2-4.4Ghz.

Edited September 1, 2017 by Demon_

[=Pedro=]

With 1070, 1080p strongly recommended! :)

[Tone71]

Go for 1440p! I had a 27 inch 1080p IPS panel and was never fully happy with the pixel density (it seemed blocky to me). I'm currently running a 34 inch Ultrawide LG @ 3440x1440 on a GTX 1070 and it does just fine.

You will regret sticking with 1080p; your GFX card gets replaced more than your monitor, so go large! :)

[cichlidfan]

With 1070, 1080p strongly recommended! :)

 

That really depends on whether the OP insists on maxed out graphic settings. Since he indicated that was not a requirement then a 1440 monitor is a worthwhile investment. Running a 4k monitor with a non-Ti 1080 keeps me from maxing out the graphics but does provide me with a spectacular image.

 

Of course, I will upgrade the graphics in the next year or so and my 4k monitor will look that much better for it.

[David OC]

You should be OK, just overclock your chip a little.

 

I do recommend a screen with G Sync, hard to explain if you haven't tried one.

 

If your looking at an IPS, the most Hz at the moment is 100Hz I believe for an IPS display?

 

The ASUS PG348Q from ASUS is an IPS, 100 HZ with G Sync, this would be the screen I would get if I was to replace my ASUS PG278Q TN, 144 Hz, G Sync panel.

 

I think screen resolution around the: 2560 x 1440P and 3440 x 1440P is a good balance and the sweet spot for DCS and larger missions, once you go up to 4K 3840 x 2160 for DCS, you really need to be looking at the 1080ti cards with good CPU and overclock.

 

 

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Edited September 2, 2017 by David OC

[Konovalov]

You will regret sticking with 1080p; your GFX card gets replaced more than your monitor, so go large! :)

Agreed. I buy a display and stick with it for at least 5-6 years on average. In that time I would own at least two different generations of GPU. Back in 2012 I went from a 24inch 1080p display to a 27inch 1440p display. Next monitor upgrade will likely be a 34-45 inch ultrawide 1440p display with either GSync or FreeSync depending on what GPU is better AMD or Nvidia. Also it must have at least 100-120Hz refresh.

[BitMaster]

I have a 980GTX with 4GB and run 1440p with good results, maybe that changes with 2.5

 

the 1070 I assume is plenty for 1440p. go for it.

 

1080p is a thing of the past

[SLAG]

Thank you all for the feedback! That really helps me nail it down. 1440 it is. Couple other questions I had maybe a bit off topic but here goes.

What utility or software does everyone use to over clock their CPU? I have virtually have no experience in this area and want to know that I am doing it correctly!!

Also, What software utility does everyone use for monitoring frame rates, CPU, clock speeds, etc. on screen and in game?

I cannot get EVGA precision XOC to work with DCS. It works with other games but not DCS. And MSI afterburner works in DCS but I can only get it to display the framerate.

Thanks again for the help guys!!!

[David OC]

I found this video below, I would test the clock at 42 first, looks like from the video you can push this up to 4.5 / 4.8 Ghz!! I'm surprised you haven't push this up to 4.2 already at least, seeing you have a liquid cooler on the CPU. This should run very nice bumping your CPU up to 4.2 with your new 1070 and very much help out at 1440P.

 

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I use MSI afterburner, pick and turn on the settings you want to show on the screen in sim, see picture below. Had a quick look at Open Hardware Monitor and tested using it on a second monitor, seems OK.

 

There are a few utility's for your board on the the gigabyte website, "careful" there's two different revisions / versions of your board. Perhaps the guy's here can recommend if any of the utility's are any good to use.

 

He does show you a few software monitors near the end of the video above, so you can stress test and check the temps of the CPU as you overclock.

 

 

Edited September 2, 2017 by David OC

[Esac_mirmidon]

In essence this thread is about expending 800-1000 dólars on a screen and another 800 in a 1080.

 

Plus HOTAS and the rest of the rig, another 1000. So the advice is expend 3000 dólars to play DCS.

 

The prices people are talking about are really out of orbit for the vast majority of users.

[David OC]

In essence this thread is about expending 800-1000 dólars on a screen and another 800 in a 1080.

 

Plus HOTAS and the rest of the rig, another 1000. So the advice is expend 3000 dólars to play DCS.

 

The prices people are talking about are really out of orbit for the vast majority of users.

 

The OP has bought the 1070 already Esac_mirmidon. SLAG was asking about running 1440P / 144 Hz, 144 alone is expensive just to write down.:)

 

If you are looking at that level of monitor, I assumed he wants the best bang for buck / experience with his current setup.

 

G Sync is expensive I know, but very much worth the extra few hundred easy in my opinion.

 

Plus he has a CPU @ 3.4 that can easily run at 4.2 GHz.

 

So it's more about the monitor SLAG now whats that will suit 4.2 Ghz and his new 1070. I recommend 1440P and if able? budget wise? 100 to 144Hz and G Sync.

 

I would love the latest one of my monitor! ROG SWIFT PG279Q 27" 2K WQHD (2560 x 1440) IPS, overclockable 165Hz, G-SYNC. and YES very expensive, even I would have to save my penny's and beg the misses.

 

 

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Edited September 2, 2017 by David OC

[Esac_mirmidon]

For sure if any has the cash go for It. The quality is out of question either out of most budgets.

[SLAG]

Thank you David OC and everyone else for all the great information! Ok so I really like the Asus PG279Q. It seems to be top of the line for 1440 at 27" but WOW!! that is some price tag!!! It definitely has all the bells and whistles and I have no doubt that I will be very happy with this screen. Hopefully I can get the wife to go for it!!! You have to pay if you want to play!!!

[Chief1942]

Your choice.

 

Thank you David OC and everyone else for all the great information! Ok so I really like the Asus PG279Q. It seems to be top of the line for 1440 at 27" but WOW!! that is some price tag!!! It definitely has all the bells and whistles and I have no doubt that I will be very happy with this screen. Hopefully I can get the wife to go for it!!! You have to pay if you want to play!!!

I think most of us struggle with the kind of decision you have before you . Just how much $$$$ is it worth to us to have DCS run at it's max capability? Certainly it comes down to individual, personal circumstances and one shoe does NOT fit all for various reasons. For those that have been dabbling in flight sims for many years, we cannot have missed the ever changing need for more "state of the art" equipment as the developers begin making ever more use of the latest technology. That alone pretty much forces one into upgrading just to be able to enjoy their favorite pastime. One decision, and you are bumping up against that, is do I bite the $$$ and get onboard with the obvious trend (in your case screen resolution) or stick with the older tech until it simply won't work any more. Only you have the answer to that conundrum,and I wish you luck. I have been fortunate to be able to pretty much stay way ahead of the "minimum requirements" to run DCS but in doing so I could probably have paid off the National Debt :music_whistling:with what it costs to do so. And it is never ending it seems:(. And if ED DOES give us all that folks are asking via the "Wishlist", I will be looking at upgrading much of my equipment as well very soon. Good luck.

Edited September 4, 2017 by Chief1942