TISL Implimentation

[Mods-o_joy]

It seems like all the functions are there, its documented well in the manual and the cockpit panel is setup for function, its also incredibly useful if you either cant carry a TGP Due to weight or don't want to carry one/TGP gets damaged in combat. we are running Suite 3 So it does not matter if they are not using the PAVE Pods anymore we are not on Suite7+(the time they started removing them). we're missing a crucial part of the simulation without TISL.

[Snoopy]

Yes it was still installed and usable but our pilots didn’t use it and I wouldn’t expect it. The A-10C as we have it right now is feature complete.

[Mods-o_joy]

Yes it was still installed and usable but our pilots didn’t use it and I wouldn’t expect it. The A-10C as we have it right now is feature complete.

They dont use it now, but DCS does not model the "now", also just because its not used is not an excuse, nobody uses the circuit breaker but its perfectly functional, the enviromental control panel is useless but its still there. Canopy fog and disengage lever/controls are there and equally useless, There are plenty of useless things modeled right now, but atleast the TISL/PAVE Pod have a good usecase.

[Snoopy]

Did you read “feature complete?”

 

They didn’t use it then either, not in combat anyways.

 

PS....suite 7+ is old, were on suite 8 now.

[Mods-o_joy]

Did you read “feature complete?”

 

They didn’t use it then either, not in combat anyways.

 

PS....suite 7+ is old, were on suite 8 now.

Its only a step down, DCS Models Suite 3, for Suite 3 its NOT Feature complete, especially if we're missing a combat system.

[Snoopy]

Its only a step down, DCS Models Suite 3, for Suite 3 its NOT Feature complete, especially if we're missing a combat system.

 

I give up. Believe what you will I’m telling you from real world experience.

 

And ED isn’t going to do it, for the third time the A-10C has been feature complete for years.

[Mods-o_joy]

I give up. Believe what you will I’m telling you from real world experience.

 

And ED isn’t going to do it, for the third time the A-10C has been feature complete for years.

Even if they DIDN'T use it then my point is they modeled all sorts of practically useless things that wont get used in combat for the A10, Atleast the PAVE Pod has a usecase(TGP Shot out but still want to use buddylase), i cant remember ever having to use the circuit breaker, the environmental control panel, the canopy disengage lever, the Encrypted radio or the Ground override/Zeroise switch, yet it all its animated in the cockpit ,and some of it even scripted, there are plenty of useless functions in the A10 Yet some are scripted anyways, when was the last time you used the Circuit breaker panel in combat(In DCS), the Master arm/Ground safety override or the Zeroise switch? my point is the PAVE Pod has an actual reason to be used, regardless if its used IRL. if DCS was modeled after the now then we would not have the P51/Spitfire/D9/K4 Or the upcoming F14, since None of them are in use anymore.

 

Edit - we also would not have the MiG 15, The MiG 21Bis, the Sabre, The F5E. Do you get it now? its a simulation of the aircraft at the time of creation, its not based in the now and if it was things would be alot different.

 

Edit2 - Final point - There is no reason NOT To have it, and the A10 seems incomplete without it.

Edited December 19, 2017 by Mods-o_joy

[Kang]

I'm fairly sure that Snoopy understood your point perfectly well. The thing is more like ED decided quite a while ago that they wouldn't be adding more features to the A-10C module anymore.

[cichlidfan]

Edit2 - Final point - There is no reason NOT To have it, and the A10 seems incomplete without it.

 

I would ask for a refund since every other aircraft is 100% complete. :doh:

[Fri13]

A-10 was designed to destroy a tens of thousands soviet tanks defending Russia, yet that never happened... Why do we have a A-10 in the first place?

 

Oh... Yes, the module is "Feature Freezed". Maybe now when the 2.5 comes out we can get it updated as it requires update for cockpit effects like weather.

 

Maybe we see the anti-ice functions to have meaning now! A cockpit heating system have it as well!

 

KA-50 has features missing and some even labeled "not implemented".

 

All aircrafts could have a IFF functional and operational, as their exact core idea is known, but not the exact algorithms, codes, encryptions etc that implements the system.

There is already enough documents freely available by militaries how IFF works and operates by the principles, yet we don't have them.

 

Su-25T doesn't have a half of the features it should have by the basics, yet many accept it as it is "just a FC3".

 

Lots of things are missing or laughable basic manner, yet "feature freeze" is only reason.

[Silver_Dragon]

Even if they DIDN'T use it then my point is they modeled all sorts of practically useless things that wont get used in combat for the A10, Atleast the PAVE Pod has a usecase(TGP Shot out but still want to use buddylase), i cant remember ever having to use the circuit breaker, the environmental control panel, the canopy disengage lever, the Encrypted radio or the Ground override/Zeroise switch, yet it all its animated in the cockpit ,and some of it even scripted, there are plenty of useless functions in the A10 Yet some are scripted anyways, when was the last time you used the Circuit breaker panel in combat(In DCS), the Master arm/Ground safety override or the Zeroise switch? my point is the PAVE Pod has an actual reason to be used, regardless if its used IRL. if DCS was modeled after the now then we would not have the P51/Spitfire/D9/K4 Or the upcoming F14, since None of them are in use anymore.

 

Edit - we also would not have the MiG 15, The MiG 21Bis, the Sabre, The F5E. Do you get it now? its a simulation of the aircraft at the time of creation, its not based in the now and if it was things would be alot different.

 

Edit2 - Final point - There is no reason NOT To have it, and the A10 seems incomplete without it.

 

The A-10C was a military contract by the USA Air National Guard to build a Desktop Instructor Station to train ANG pilots. The contract was approved, and ED build the project. Into them ED get the approval by the USA military stament to build a specific simulator gaming module to DCS World based on your work, with a expecific suite, system, weapons modelling and other restrictions to approve release them. Some example has the A-10C has not carry laser mavericks, and the code, found by a Modder some time ago and "activated" was locked by hardcode to prevent a license issue, the Suite limitation and other restricted systems.

 

ED has confirmed the A-10C has actually a "closed develop" in systems, weapons and other features, meanwhile not other official coming about a "approval" by military / legal stament to build updates into the module.

[Nooch]

i cant remember ever having to use the circuit breaker, the environmental control panel, the canopy disengage lever

 

By the way what's the role of the canopy disengage lever in the real airplane? I've always wondered what it was used for.

[Snoopy]

By the way what's the role of the canopy disengage lever in the real airplane? I've always wondered what it was used for.

 

The actuator fails, disconnects the canopy from the actuator so it can be manually opened.

[Fri13]

Some example has the A-10C has not carry laser mavericks, and the code, found by a Modder some time ago and "activated" was locked by hardcode to prevent a license issue, the Suite limitation and other restricted systems.

 

Ain't the laser maverick the most used variant in the military anyways?

Or do I now mistake the Hellfire and Maverick in that case.... Very likely...

Well, the laser maverick missing is just, annoying.

 

More and more there always appear to be missing pieces and parts, lowering the "simulation" level, but at least it is best we can have x)

[Snoopy]

Ain't the laser maverick the most used variant in the military anyways?

 

Not on A-10s