VAICOM PRO plugin for VoiceAttack

[karpiyon]

Hi,

My VA is crashing too many time when Viacom plugin is enables.

What can I do to find out the cause for it?

When I disabled the plugin in VA settings the crashes ceased.

[hornblower793]

Hi,

My VA is crashing too many time when Viacom plugin is enables.

What can I do to find out the cause for it?

When I disabled the plugin in VA settings the crashes ceased.

What happens when it crashes - does it just disappear or is there any kind of error message? Is there anything in the Vaicom logs

 

Is it happening totally randomly or when you are trying to do particular things?

 

Which version of DCS, VA and Vaicom are you running?

 

Do you have Chatter and / or AIRIO extensions?

 

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[karpiyon]

Hi,

It crashed when I not playing DCS.

It just tells me that VA stopped working.

Where are the log files, if any?

I am not sure Viacom is the problem, I noticed that there are no crashes when I disable this but if you direct me I can try and look at all the logs.

I have the latest versions

I have no Chatter not AIRIO

[hornblower793]

Hi,

It crashed when I not playing DCS.

It just tells me that VA stopped working.

Where are the log files, if any?

I am not sure Viacom is the problem, I noticed that there are no crashes when I disable this but if you direct me I can try and look at all the logs.

I have the latest versions

I have no Chatter not AIRIO

I will have my PC on later and will help in more detail then

 

Are there any messages in the windows event logs (windows event viewer)

 

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[mike pavitt]

Hi.

 

Can anyone help please?

 

I may be being stupid here, but when I'm trying to train the speech recognition, I am having to train almost every single word - surely this can't be right? Even when I've typed the word and go back it mostly doesn't recognise what I've done. With over 500 phrases this will take me an entire week? Also, odd stuff, for example reading through the list, I get to 'Copy Kill', for example, and the MS microphone window shows 'copying...', and 'Cleared Hot' shows as 'Hot' - it simply will not accept the word cleared? Am I missing something please? It's certainly doing some bits ok, as it now recognises Binniville for example.

When I'm training it, I also don't get any notification of the Confidence Level which I see in the tutorial, despite the correct box being checked? Any ideas?

 

I have trained the speech recognition through the sound panel options over 10 times so I would have thought that would get me somewhere, but in Vaicom I can't even get 'Capital A, H, P, M, N', recognised.

 

TIA,

 

Mike

Edited April 27, 2020 by mike pavitt

[MAXsenna]

Hi.

 

 

 

I may be being stupid here, but when I'm trying to train the speech recognition, I am having to train almost every single word - surely this can't be right? Even when I've typed the word and go back it mostly doesn't recognise what I've done. With over 500 phrases this will take me an entire week? Also, odd stuff, for example reading through the list, I get to 'Copy Kill', for example, and the MS microphone window shows 'copying...', and 'Cleared Hot' shows as 'Hot' - it simply will not accept the word cleared? Am I missing something please? It's certainly doing some bits ok, as it now recognises Binniville for example.

 

When I'm training it, I also don't get any notification of the Confidence Level which I see in the tutorial, despite the correct box being checked?

 

 

 

I have trained the speech recognition through the sound panel options over 10 times so I would have thought that would get me somewhere, but in Vaicom I can't even get 'Capital A, H, P, M, N', recognised.

 

 

 

TIA,

 

 

 

Mike

Exactly how do you train the words?

 

To get my recognition better I have added 2500+ words and phrases to the dictionary. And yes, it was cumbersome and took it's fare share of time.

But it really helped!

 

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[hornblower793]

Hi.

 

 

 

I may be being stupid here, but when I'm trying to train the speech recognition, I am having to train almost every single word - surely this can't be right? Even when I've typed the word and go back it mostly doesn't recognise what I've done. With over 500 phrases this will take me an entire week? Also, odd stuff, for example reading through the list, I get to 'Copy Kill', for example, and the MS microphone window shows 'copying...', and 'Cleared Hot' shows as 'Hot' - it simply will not accept the word cleared? Am I missing something please? It's certainly doing some bits ok, as it now recognises Binniville for example.

 

When I'm training it, I also don't get any notification of the Confidence Level which I see in the tutorial, despite the correct box being checked?

 

 

 

I have trained the speech recognition through the sound panel options over 10 times so I would have thought that would get me somewhere, but in Vaicom I can't even get 'Capital A, H, P, M, N', recognised.

 

 

 

TIA,

 

 

 

Mike

 

In addition to what @MAXsenna has replied I worked through all the commands in training and worked out which ones voice recognition really struggled with. I then added these to the Windows dictionary (including recording my pronunciation). If they t still struggles, find a word or phrase it can easily understand when you say it and add an alias command using this word). You can always try problem words on their own or even try changing the order round in your speaking (e.g. Kill copy) to see if this helps

 

Also, i found that slowing down my speech helped, leaving slightly longer pauses between words. This is the same advice I was given years ago regarding speaking in public as it boosts the listener's ability to understand.

 

In terms of not seeing confidence levels, are you running Vaicom in debug mode? This will add a lot more information into the log.

 

 

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[Razor18]

Hi Guys,

 

 

a bit maybe off topic, but why VoiceAttack keeps popping up phantom "Unrecognised" words even if I'm (and so is the room too) completely silent? Which value should I increase to get rid of those false recognition of "Unrecognized" commands?

 

 

Thanks

[MAXsenna]

Hi Guys,

 

 

a bit maybe off topic, but why VoiceAttack keeps popping up phantom "Unrecognised" words even if I'm (and so is the room too) completely silent? Which value should I increase to get rid of those false recognition of "Unrecognized" commands?

 

 

Thanks

Is the mic on? Just touching my headset can trigger this under certain circumstances. You can try to turn down mic levels. I've found that speaking in a lower voice, instead of "shouting", as I tend too do (Sony Walkman syndrom), when it doesn't "understand" me. Helps a lot.

 

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[mike pavitt]

Exactly how do you train the words?

 

To get my recognition better I have added 2500+ words and phrases to the dictionary. And yes, it was cumbersome and took it's fare share of time.

But it really helped!

 

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I'm going to be busy for a while then - good job we're in lockdown I guess! Thanks for the response.

 

Mike

[mike pavitt]

In addition to what @MAXsenna has replied I worked through all the commands in training and worked out which ones voice recognition really struggled with. I then added these to the Windows dictionary (including recording my pronunciation). If they t still struggles, find a word or phrase it can easily understand when you say it and add an alias command using this word). You can always try problem words on their own or even try changing the order round in your speaking (e.g. Kill copy) to see if this helps

 

Also, i found that slowing down my speech helped, leaving slightly longer pauses between words. This is the same advice I was given years ago regarding speaking in public as it boosts the listener's ability to understand.

 

In terms of not seeing confidence levels, are you running Vaicom in debug mode? This will add a lot more information into the log.

 

 

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Hi,

 

Thanks for the reply. Looks like a week of chatting to my PC then!

 

"In terms of not seeing confidence levels, are you running Vaicom in debug mode? This will add a lot more information into the log." Didn't realise that, so I'll have a go,

 

Thanks,

Mike

[Hollywood_315]

@mike pavitt When you don't see confidence levels in the log during training mode there's something not right.

Read the user manual on Keywords Training again carefully, specifically make sure you are enabling the round mic icon in the speech recognition window.

As stated in the manual, adding words to the speech dictionary should be necessary for no more than just a small number of stubborn words.

Which ones, varies per user.

In any case the engine will improve recognition rates the more you use it.

Edited April 27, 2020 by Hollywood_315

[Hammer1-1]

Ahh! You see this is not VAICOM works. It doesn't have or use any keypresses. It talks directly with DCS (behind the scene). It uses Voice Attack as an interface with Microsoft Speech recognition, solely for the purpose of Speech To Text. Not like Voice Attack usually is used.

I do not, have the Tomcat myself, yet. But I've got the AIRIO extension. Now, there is an issue with with AIRIO, that will be fixed, as other users are reporting. I think it's only for certain commands.

Have you made VAICOM work with other modules? Just to check if you have VAICOM and MSSR setup correctly. You can also check the VA log, to see if commands are recognized and if and where they are stopped.

 

 

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Can you explain this? No I Havent been able to get VAICOM to work in anything because I dont understand anything about what this does in the first place. I dont speak military and Id rather just figure out what key commands are pressed when I say certain words in voice attack.

 

I want to be able to say Jester start and he continues on with his start, and that selects this keybind. I dont understand what you mean by this thing interfaces with DCS behind the scene because all I understand of voice attack is for me to speak certain words for key presses. I have my own voice attack profile for other aircraft and it works exactly like I expect it to. Id like to make AIRIO work like I expect it to without having to learn all the military in the world.

Edited April 27, 2020 by Hammer1-1

[MAXsenna]

Can you explain this? No I Havent been able to get VAICOM to work in anything because I dont understand anything about what this does in the first place. I dont speak military and Id rather just figure out what key commands are pressed when I say certain words in voice attack.

 

I want to be able to say Jester start and he continues on with his start, and that selects this keybind. I dont understand what you mean by this thing interfaces with DCS behind the scene because all I understand of voice attack is for me to speak certain words for key presses. I have my own voice attack profile for other aircraft and it works exactly like I expect it to. Id like to make AIRIO work like I expect it to without having to learn all the military in the world.

 

Just like I said. It doesn't use "the keyboard" or keybinds. Don't compare it to Voice Attack. They're not related. Behind the scenes. VAICOM talks directly with DCS with Lua code through the internal network in your computer. It only uses VA for recognition. And actually, VA doesn't understand Jack Shit either, as it uses Microsoft Speech Recognition for Speech To Text.

I don't speak military anymore either. Read the manual, if not done already. All the commands you can say, or rather what you must say and how to say them, are all there. Watch some of the YT videos as well. NOT the Voice Attack ones.

It's nothing military really. It works sort of like Voice Attack, just more immersive (and better) for radio comms and RIO. It doesn't use the radio menu. That's sort of the point.

Can someone with the Tomcat help this fella out with some commands he can say and how? (If VA is working for him, training should already be done).

And I repeat. You should read the manual, as it will better explain what I did. You want regret this when you get it working.

As for commands for gear/flaps etc. That is not part of VAICOM, but you can use other VA profiles together with VAICOM to complish that.

 

EDIT: And BTW. If you've not read the manual. I bet you're TX buttons aren't set up. And then nothing will work.

 

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Edited April 27, 2020 by MAXsenna

[LtSpoon]

I have a little problem with Vaicom Pro.

 

If I set a frequency of an airport in the F-18, for example Kutaesi 133,000 I can speak to the tower via Vaicom. But if I want to land on Kobuleti, set the new frequency, for example the 134,000 and then say "Inbound", Vaicom still speaks to Kutaesi. Sometimes even to the Stennis although a completely different frequency is set.

 

What am I doing wrong? :cry:

[hornblower793]

Can you explain this? No I Havent been able to get VAICOM to work in anything because I dont understand anything about what this does in the first place. I dont speak military and Id rather just figure out what key commands are pressed when I say certain words in voice attack.

 

I want to be able to say Jester start and he continues on with his start, and that selects this keybind. I dont understand what you mean by this thing interfaces with DCS behind the scene because all I understand of voice attack is for me to speak certain words for key presses. I have my own voice attack profile for other aircraft and it works exactly like I expect it to. Id like to make AIRIO work like I expect it to without having to learn all the military in the world.

The Vaicom manual lists the commands for AIRIO - you can add aliases for these commands to make them more natural for you. For startup just tell Jester to startup and then you can tell him the kind of INS alignment you want.

 

Once airborne, basic navigation is by telling Jester to Navigate Steerpoint <1, 2 or 3>

 

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[hornblower793]

I have a little problem with Vaicom Pro.

 

If I set a frequency of an airport in the F-18, for example Kutaesi 133,000 I can speak to the tower via Vaicom. But if I want to land on Kobuleti, set the new frequency, for example the 134,000 and then say "Inbound", Vaicom still speaks to Kutaesi. Sometimes even to the Stennis although a completely different frequency is set.

 

What am I doing wrong? :cry:

Do you have easy comms turned on - if so I think it selects the nearest location. T ll have a proper look later

 

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[ZoneySD]

Hi Folks. First, let me thank MAXstenna for all of his help with me getting VAICOM to overall. Huge help and very much appreciated! BTW, I figured out that I had an issue with my DCS install so I basically uninstalled and reinstalled DCS, VA, and VAICOM Pro. Works like a champ now.

 

One issue I'm seeing, and I'm pretty certain it's my noob mission editor skills (lack thereof) is that when I built an AAR mission to practice, it isn't recognizing the tanker in VAICOM. The tanker is on screen but I can't talk to it. I've manually tuned to the freq from the mission editor and it just goes back and tries to TX on the mission Flight freq. Maybe this question is better suited to a thread around the mission editor but I'm trying to use VAICOM to no avail. One other thing, when I do an interrogate from Crystal Palace (British soccer fan?), it tells me there are no refueling assets in the theatre. If I need to go to a different forum thread for this one, I totally understand.

 

Other than that, loving this tool!

[Hammer1-1]

The Vaicom manual lists the commands for AIRIO - you can add aliases for these commands to make them more natural for you. For startup just tell Jester to startup and then you can tell him the kind of INS alignment you want.

 

Once airborne, basic navigation is by telling Jester to Navigate Steerpoint <1, 2 or 3>

 

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Then why cant I get the damned thing to work????? Ive been dealing with this from day 1 and I cant get JS to work because VAICOM recognizes my voice as speaking with a mouthful of sht, and none of the commands I speak even get recognized; yet MY profile works exactly the way I want it to. Its simple, not too convoluted and I know exactly what each function does when I speak it. Right now, I just want a very simplified version of AIRIO that works the way I want it to work.

[hornblower793]

Do you have your PTT buttons set-up as per the VAICOM manual. I know you are frustrated but there are a few basic steps that need to be followed and it might need voice training. VAICOM itself does not do any voice recognition - it uses the Microsoft engine so blame them :-)

 

 

As I said, you can add aliases to make the commands do what you want. We are trying to help but are only users ourselves and can only go on what we know works.

[hornblower793]

Hi Folks. First, let me thank MAXstenna for all of his help with me getting VAICOM to overall. Huge help and very much appreciated! BTW, I figured out that I had an issue with my DCS install so I basically uninstalled and reinstalled DCS, VA, and VAICOM Pro. Works like a champ now.

 

One issue I'm seeing, and I'm pretty certain it's my noob mission editor skills (lack thereof) is that when I built an AAR mission to practice, it isn't recognizing the tanker in VAICOM. The tanker is on screen but I can't talk to it. I've manually tuned to the freq from the mission editor and it just goes back and tries to TX on the mission Flight freq. Maybe this question is better suited to a thread around the mission editor but I'm trying to use VAICOM to no avail. One other thing, when I do an interrogate from Crystal Palace (British soccer fan?), it tells me there are no refueling assets in the theatre. If I need to go to a different forum thread for this one, I totally understand.

 

Other than that, loving this tool!

 

 

Zoney - happy to try and help - can you attach a copy of your mission file and I will take a look (sounds to me like you haven't set the mission activity for the tanker to start refueling at the first waypoint)

[LtSpoon]

Do you have easy comms turned on - if so I think it selects the nearest location. T ll have a proper look later

 

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Easy Comm in DCS Options OFF

 

in Vaicom Pro it says: Easy Communication: ON

 

:huh:

 

What im doing wrong ?

[Hammer1-1]

Do you have your PTT buttons set-up as per the VAICOM manual. I know you are frustrated but there are a few basic steps that need to be followed and it might need voice training. VAICOM itself does not do any voice recognition - it uses the Microsoft engine so blame them :-)

 

 

As I said, you can add aliases to make the commands do what you want. We are trying to help but are only users ourselves and can only go on what we know works.

 

what Ive been told over and over and over again from others is that I have them set up correctly. Im not trying to troubleshoot, Im way past that point. I deleted Vaicom; its gone.

[karpiyon]

i get this error:

Faulting application name: VoiceAttack.exe, version: 1.8.5.1, time stamp: 0x5e8cd24f

Faulting module name: ntdll.dll, version: 10.0.18362.778, time stamp: 0x3dcfaabb

Exception code: 0xc0000374

Fault offset: 0x000dfa1d

Faulting process id: 0x12fc

Faulting application start time: 0x01d616447708b33f

Faulting application path: C:\Program Files (x86)\VoiceAttack\VoiceAttack.exe

Faulting module path: C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\ntdll.dll

Report Id: e730181d-2562-4a65-9616-8e36d076fb21

Faulting package full name:

Faulting package-relative application ID:

[hornblower793]

Easy Comm in DCS Options OFF

 

in Vaicom Pro it says: Easy Communication: ON

 

:huh:

 

What im doing wrong ?

 

 

If you are in VA and do not have DCS loaded it will always say this - if you are in a plane in DCS and then bring up the VAICOM config window, what does it say?