Cowboy10uk Posted May 18, 2018 Posted May 18, 2018 Hi guys, I freely admit to knowing absolutely nothing when it comes to carrier ops, hell the last time I attempted a carrier landing was back in Pacific Fighters a number of decades ago. God I feel old now. ;) Anyway I was just wondering about the use of NVGs during carrier operations? Should we use them or not? I’ve watched a number of the pre release DCS Hornet videos which include night carrier landings in the past few days, and I’ve noticed that not one person uses the NVGs. But it’s pitch black and you can hardly see a darn thing. Surely wouldn’t using NVGs been beneficial in these circumstances to allow you a better visual picture, not to mention spotting and landing on the carrier easier. As I have stated I have absolutely no idea how carrier landings operate in the Real World or if it’s just a case of the NVGs not being ready yet in the module. Just wondering if anyone knows the answer, or can explain to me, why no one is ustilising NVGs. Doubt using them or not will make a difference to my landings mind you, I just know it’s gonna get very very packed on the sea floor shortly with wreck Hornets. ;) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Fighter pilots make movies, Attack pilots make history, Helicopter pilots make heros. :pilotfly: Corsair 570x Crystal Case, Intel 8700K O/clocked to 4.8ghz, 32GB Vengeance RGB Pro DDR4 3200 MHZ Ram, 2 x 1TB M2 drives, 2 x 4TB Hard Drives, Nvidia EVGA GTX 1080ti FTW, Maximus x Hero MB, H150i Cooler, 6 x Corsair LL120 RGB Fans And a bloody awful Pilot :doh:
LieutenantFalcon Posted May 18, 2018 Posted May 18, 2018 I’ve watched a number of the pre release DCS Hornet videos which include night carrier landings in the past few days, and I’ve noticed that not one person uses the NVGs. As I have stated I have absolutely no idea how carrier landings operate in the Real World or if it’s just a case of the NVGs not being ready yet in the module. Just wondering if anyone knows the answer, or can explain to me, why no one is ustilising NVGs. You said it yourself. NVGs are not ready yet on the Hornet (according to MagzTV)
QuiGon Posted May 18, 2018 Posted May 18, 2018 From a former real life Hornet pilot: My knowledge is dated by 20 years but for safety reasons there are always lights on the flight deck but they are low intensity for many obvious reasons. NVGs don't work for landings because you lose your depth perception which is important for landing. Plus they would wash out with the deck lights. For those that wonder if a carrier would be more stealthy with lights out, not really because radar and sonar detection would expose a carrier long before flight deck lights would. Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing!
Cowboy10uk Posted May 18, 2018 Author Posted May 18, 2018 You said it yourself. NVGs are not ready yet on the Hornet (according to MagzTV) From a former real life Hornet pilot: Ok cheers guys, so I’m guessing it’s a mixture of both. NVGs not currently available in the module, but also it’s safer to land without them for increased depth perception. And the lights of carrier would wash them out. Many thanks for the answers, darn that’s gonna add a whole other dimension to the stress of carrier landings. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Fighter pilots make movies, Attack pilots make history, Helicopter pilots make heros. :pilotfly: Corsair 570x Crystal Case, Intel 8700K O/clocked to 4.8ghz, 32GB Vengeance RGB Pro DDR4 3200 MHZ Ram, 2 x 1TB M2 drives, 2 x 4TB Hard Drives, Nvidia EVGA GTX 1080ti FTW, Maximus x Hero MB, H150i Cooler, 6 x Corsair LL120 RGB Fans And a bloody awful Pilot :doh:
HoBo777 Posted May 18, 2018 Posted May 18, 2018 Unless I'm miss remembering the Navy actually did a study on night carrier landings during the Vietnam war and found them to be more stressful than flying the actual combat mission and coming under attack. Most stressful 60 seconds currently known to the human race?
AG-51_Razor Posted May 18, 2018 Posted May 18, 2018 Actually, I believe that the daytime carrier landings were more stressful than the combat mission as well. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
HoBo777 Posted May 18, 2018 Posted May 18, 2018 My google-fu is apparently strong today, found an article mentioning the study during Veitnam https://careylohrenz.com/be-fearless-what-night-carrier-landings-can-teach-us-about-high-performance/ Pretty good read too, also found a couple of articles where pilots mention the exact same thing during the first Gulf war. After watching some actual hud footage of night carrier landings it kind of makes me wonder if we're going to have it a little to easy.
Winterz Posted May 18, 2018 Posted May 18, 2018 My google-fu is apparently strong today, found an article mentioning the study during Veitnam https://careylohrenz.com/be-fearless-what-night-carrier-landings-can-teach-us-about-high-performance/ Pretty good read too, also found a couple of articles where pilots mention the exact same thing during the first Gulf war. After watching some actual hud footage of night carrier landings it kind of makes me wonder if we're going to have it a little to easy. From this article: "United States Naval Aviators and United States Marine Corps Aviators are the only pilots in the world who land high performance fighters on aircraft carriers at night." In which world? :lol:
Flamin_Squirrel Posted May 18, 2018 Posted May 18, 2018 Most stressful 60 seconds currently known to the human race? Probably not. The 60 seconds from going over the top in WW1 to the time you're blown to bits is likely worse!
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