anyone have real F-15 hud tape of landing?

[Baz000]

Anyone come across a real F-15 HUD tape of a landing? I been searching the net for hours and can't seem to come up with any real F-15 HUD tapes of non-emergency landings

[feefifofum]

There's one of an emergency landing with an engine fire; the pilot had to punch out at the end because he ran out of runway...probably skipped a couple of procedures though I'd wager if that's what you're in it for.

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[Baz000]

I want just a normal landing approach in the F-15C or F-15E... In particular i'm looking to see the flare for landing, the velocity vector, the AOA, and the Waterline marker.

[Baz000]

something showing the HUD on landing like this:

 

[feefifofum]

It'll look like this:

 

[draconus]

I don't feel the ground effect in game. I have to flare by pitching up (maintaining 22 units AOA) and actually increasing thrust untill touchdown to reduce rate of descend and land smoothly. Without that action I hit it like on the carrier's deck.

[blkspade]

I don't feel the ground effect in game. I have to flare by pitching up (maintaining 22 units AOA) and actually increasing thrust untill touchdown to reduce rate of descend and land smoothly. Without that action I hit it like on the carrier's deck.

 

The ground effect is definitely there. You are likely crossing the threshold too high and/or flaring too early. If your on AOA, glance at your VVI before flaring. If you're somewhere north of -600fpm you're in for a hard landing. Landings are much smoother flowing the above guidelines if you're at or below -500fpm before the flare.

[Baz000]

Was hoping someone might have a HUD tape from a normal F-15C landing, like this one of the Dutch F-16 landing I found on the net.

 

[SinusoidDelta]

Here’s a whole DACT sortie from takeoff to landing

 

[Baz000]

Thanks alot for that, exactly what I was looking for... But why is the HUD not visible on takeoff???

[draconus]

takeoff

landing

[mvsgas]

takeoff

landing

 

Keep in mind that is a video from a test aircraft so numbers might be different.

[G00dnight]

If you watch the series Jetstream on youtube they say you don't flair you fly it all the way down it takes some getting used to from what they say.

[Sweep]

Thanks alot for that, exactly what I was looking for... But why is the HUD not visible on takeoff???

 

I think it is visible, just really washed out.

[draconus]

I think it is visible, just really washed out.

looks like @1:57 mark pilot brightens up the HUD

[Baz000]

If you watch the series Jetstream on youtube they say you don't flair you fly it all the way down it takes some getting used to from what they say.

 

yes, for naval aviation that is true... However, USAF aircraft such as F-16 and F-15 AFAIK you do need to flare to cushion your landing because the landing gear is not designed to take heavy impacts like naval aviation aircraft such as the F-18 are.

[draconus]

yes, for naval aviation that is true... However, USAF aircraft such as F-16 and F-15 AFAIK you do need to flare to cushion your landing because the landing gear is not designed to take heavy impacts like naval aviation aircraft such as the F-18 are.

In my experience the only time you can do it in F-15C is way under the glidepath otherwise you go for a hard landing.

[GGTharos]

You're probably just flaring early/late.

[Baz000]

who, me?

[draconus]

You're probably just flaring early/late.

I have no problem with flaring or landing at all. I was refering to the "no flaring" navy style. In the -1 landing instructions the flare is mentioned so I assume is madatory. My erlier "don't feel ground effect" comment was assuming no flaring however.

I do exactly like in this HUD videos - approach with slightly lower AOA to reach about 22 during the flare. However, if one maintains 22 during final there is not much left for the flare so to slow the rate of descend one have to increase thrust before touchdown.

Edited May 23, 2018 by draconus