Two axis to control rudder axis

[Oldfox]

Hi guys,

 

I have no rudder but a car pedal set that I'd love to use as rudder.

 

BUT, no matter what I tried I was never able to configure two different axis (like clutch and throttle) to be able to control rudder properly.... I found a trick around here using both axis on rudder input with different curve response and so on but wasn't able to make it work.

 

Anyone ever succeeded in doing this?

 

Would be quite easy for ED just to add rudder left and rudder right in controller config :p

 

Thanks

[Seb71]

I only have some crap car pedals and I use the pedal's software (Logitech Profiler) to combine the accelerator axis and brake axis into a single axis.

 

 

If your pedals do not have such software, you can use third-party ones.

[Oldfox]

That's the problem having high end pedals, can't combine axis :D

 

Found UJR software that should be able to do this. Only problem is that it will install vJoy and add again other virtual controllers.... I have already too much controllers in fact :/

 

I'll try this method but if anyone has a DCS integrated method I'd be glad to use it !

[Sokol1_br]

Joystick Gremlin allow easy merge two axes in a third virtual axes.

 

[Oldfox]

Thanks for the tip! I did it easily with UCR: https://autohotkey.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=12249

 

But will have a look at your gremelin stuff, it looks simpler indeed.

[Art-J]

Fox, have you tried setting them up as described in Coilwinder's posts here?

https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=80457

 

I have, worked flawlessly out of the box with my G25 and later T500 for a few years before I bought actual rudder pedals.

[markj]

Fox, have you tried setting them up as described in Coilwinder's posts here?

https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=80457

 

I have, worked flawlessly out of the box with my G25 and later T500 for a few years before I bought actual rudder pedals.

 

I'm new to DCS and also trying to use Sim racing pedals for the Rudder (these are pretty high end HE sim pedals, but therefore not mainstream)

 

I've followed the advice in the above link and bound both pedals to left and right rudder axis, the issue is that they always start with full rudder and pressing the pedal moves the rudder towards centre.

I assumed this was just an invert axis issue, but ticking this just swaps the action from left rudder full to right rudder full and depressing the pedal still moves it to the centre.

 

Any thoughts or advice on how i can change this? I've checked DIview and the pedals both work from 0 - 100% as you would expect.

 

Any help appreciated. Thanks

[JasonJ]

@markj

 

I noticed you wrote "....bound both pedals to left and right rudder axis" so I am assuming you are trying to configure the solution using DCS natively* and not using external joystick modifier programs such as virtual rudder, vjoy, ppjoy, autohotkey, joystick gremlin etc. The external programs monitor both pedals in Windows and sends the combined pedal input to a virtual joystick which is then mapped in DCS. They work very well, but do require a little research/reading how to set them up.

 

* Use two separate pedals natively in DCS

These two posts show how to use two separate axes bound to rudder - ie: you must change the saturation on each pedal to 'trick' the sim and only output half of the rudder range from each pedal. The additive effect gives a full range of the rudder from separate 2 axes.

 

 

https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=1459873&postcount=3

https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=4146115&postcount=8

 

The only caveat is that because the pedals are not physically joined like in a real aircraft, it is possible to press both at once and that tends to set the rudder to center and can lead to undesired pedal input. So you can only press one pedal at a time using this method. The external programs mentioned above cope better in this state.

Edited April 22, 2020 by JasonJ

[hornblower793]

I'm new to DCS and also trying to use Sim racing pedals for the Rudder (these are pretty high end HE sim pedals, but therefore not mainstream)

 

 

 

I've followed the advice in the above link and bound both pedals to left and right rudder axis, the issue is that they always start with full rudder and pressing the pedal moves the rudder towards centre.

 

I assumed this was just an invert axis issue, but ticking this just swaps the action from left rudder full to right rudder full and depressing the pedal still moves it to the centre.

 

 

 

Any thoughts or advice on how i can change this? I've checked DIview and the pedals both work from 0 - 100% as you would expect.

 

 

 

Any help appreciated. Thanks

Set the slider option in DCS axis tune - you might also need to invert them but this will be pretty obvious once you try to fly

 

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[Ant0ine]

I'm new to DCS and also trying to use Sim racing pedals for the Rudder (these are pretty high end HE sim pedals, but therefore not mainstream)

 

I've followed the advice in the above link and bound both pedals to left and right rudder axis, the issue is that they always start with full rudder and pressing the pedal moves the rudder towards centre.

I assumed this was just an invert axis issue, but ticking this just swaps the action from left rudder full to right rudder full and depressing the pedal still moves it to the centre.

 

Any thoughts or advice on how i can change this? I've checked DIview and the pedals both work from 0 - 100% as you would expect.

 

Any help appreciated. Thanks

 

https://whitemagic.github.io/JoystickGremlin/overview/

 

[markj]

Thanks for the responses all, will give Joystick Gremlin another go. couldn't get vjoy to install yesterday which seems to stop Joystick Gremlin too.

 

The problem with doing it through DCS is that invert axis just changes my input from taking off left rudder to taking off right rudder, so the issue is that with the pedals not pressed DCS is seeing 100% pressed pedals. If i could reverse how DCS sees this i would be sorted. I even tried holding the pedal in, clicking on assign axis and then letting the pedal out to see if it would read a negative value and reverse the problem. if that makes sense.

 

thanks for the help.

[markj]

All sorted now thanks for the tips. Couldn't get Joystick Gremlin to install (on windows insider version which may be the issue) but UCR worked.

 

Created a combined pedal axis and used this in DCS and all works great.