Where did the excitement go?

[dodger42]

Parts for my new system build are streaming in by courier. Today I opened a box. Instead of the usual excited sensation unique to sniffing new IT gear (is it just me?), I felt something altogether different; guilt. It was none other than Windows Vista. Looking at the shrink wrapped DVD case I wondered if breaking the seal equates to selling my soul to DRM, or more specifically the RIAA and MS. Linking back to Lockon... given that Vista takes up 1GB RAM, I wonder if it will just slow lockon down.

 

I appreciate MS for many things, but not for Vista. But still I bought it... albeit an OEM system builder version.

 

So here is a poll. (The third option would be a sacrificial microwave oven spa for the DVD).

[Black_Hawk]

Since you have it ( :doh: ) keep it :D

In 5 or 6 years when most of the bugs get fixed you'll find it useful.

[hitman]

I sold mine for l337ness....Im still paying up. Wait...I just re-read the thread.

 

Its a killer o/s if you can stand to wait for more drivers to become available. The security issues are not even relevant, and you "technically" dont need an a/v for the computer for a while, anyways.

 

I have very little beef with vista at the moment. Heres the list:

1. The annoying administrator privlidges just to start an app.

2. The inability to change text in program folders, such as it asking me for permission 3 times to re-write cockpitmouse = false to = true, and then telling me "no I wont do that." -I can get around this by saving to desktop and dragging it to the folder it needs to go to.

3. Lack of drivers ATM.

4. Sound accelleration-the cockpit noises are enhanced dramatically since the software isnt really compatible with the hardware ATM. Try getting Max Payne to play correctly.

5. No SST software yet.

 

Aside from that, its a damn good o/s. As long as you have at a minimum of 2 gigs of ram and a dx8.1 compatible video card, you should be fine in this department. My games have increased in speed.

 

A few benefits from Vista:

1. You can use USB drives as extra memory. Vista Ultimate will support 8 multicore CPUs and 70gigs of ram.

2. Its lightning fast in gaming.

3. Its extremely visually appealing.

4. Security is tighter than a fishes anus...and thats water tight.

 

 

 

And remember: I HATE MICROSOFT. Its a good buy.

[Ice]

2. The inability to change text in program folders, such as it asking me for permission 3 times to re-write cockpitmouse = false to = true, and then telling me "no I wont do that." -I can get around this by saving to desktop and dragging it to the folder it needs to go to.

 

 

simple fix.

 

"msconfig" Tools - Disable UAC

[Pilotasso]

Ill avoid Vista as some kind of slutty girlfriend that just got herself VD. :D

Ill let her cure that condition, maybe for a year, after that wel see if she preys on my wallet again. For the time being my finances will be assaulted by Intel mistress and cant bare to look at any other girl with such a hole in my budget. ;)

[dodger42]

 

A few benefits from Vista:

1. You can use USB drives as extra memory. Vista Ultimate will support 8 multicore CPUs and 70gigs of ram.

 

But for 70GB RAM you would need to use the 64bit OS, and from memory, that brings a host of other compatibility issues :) But it is an advance nonetheless.

[Kuky]

I guess if you have XP already and just bought Vista OEM as well, just keep it and when all the drivers are available and OS matures a bit you can install it. But then again you can sell it now and get it later, probably the later versions will have some bugg fixed included.

 

... there are always two sides to every story ...

[Groove]

2. Its lightning fast in gaming.

 

Borat would say: NOT !

[bramski]

I won't be touching Vista until the benefits outweigh the potential problems. At the moment it's pointless for gamers to upgrade to Vista.

 

I say stick it on Ebay.

[FanBoy2006.01]

Fortunately my computer is not infected with the Windows Vista virus.

 

I realy do not need that thing and that will not change for a couple of years to come.

[Andrew_McP]

I'd be happy to buy Vista if it offered anything I want or need... but it doesn't. XP is a very good OS now, and security etc. aren't a problem if you have half a clue. So Vista's an expensive, DRM infected side-grade, not an upgrade.

 

I do have a spare PC though, assembled from various cast-off bits and pieces, and if a DX10 game comes along which really interests me (Crysis might be it, but I think it'll still be great using DX9) I may buy Vista just to see if the DX10 features are worthwhile. It definitely won't go on my main, quiet work/internet box or my noisy games machine until after SP1 at the earliest.

 

So, er... if money's not a problem I'd keep it for future use, but I certainly wouldn't install it now on a machine I care about.

 

Andrew McP

[4c Hajduk Veljko]

Computer (software/hardware) is a tool to do the job. If Vista does the job for you then keep it. If not then do not keep it. Your poll did not have enough options since both choices are valid under certain circumstances.

 

I have three PC’s at home and building the forth one (Kandalf water cooling case). I will install Vista on new PC.

[S77th-konkussion]

I do not plan to get vista until

 

1. There is at least as much kudos as there is confusion today...

 

2. If I am forced to sooner with a new machine.

[skinners]

I'd like to say switch to linux, but that is not an option and it won't be one for a long while.

 

Keep that copy of Vista, it might come in handy some time later.

[Shaman]

Keep it, and install it when SP1 gets released.

[Fjordmonkey]

Running Vista at home pretty much flawlessly (some bugs due to old software that goes "huh?" if not configured correctly in terms of compatability-mode etc, AND the UAC is off. Permanently). Will I go back to XP? Nope, I like the look, feel and handling of Vista, although I will admit to having to spend time with it to really like it. Just like I did when I swapped from Win2K to XP.

[rattler]

Would never put Vista on my Machine. I see no real advantage to Vista, to me it's eye candy, and if you like to watch pretty things fly around your desktop(folders)etc. then I guess you will like Vista. Productivity wise it is slower, read an article in a business magizine. Games being faster some yes most no. Flight sims are a headache and no dx10 for sometime to come. I think about every tech person would tell you the prudent thing to do is wait 1 - 2 years before making the decision to install Vista. Those that jump in early are Beta testers. Window XP is doing a fine job at the present time with no issues that I have come across. There are a host of issues with Vista and not interested in finding work arounds. If you like the Vista look there is software available to give you that on XP with none of the problems. Gamers have been worned already to stay away from Vista. The only thing I can say about Vista is that it seems to run much better on Notebooks. Go figure. Desktops Nope. Have fun if you go Vista, I wish you all the best luck if you do.

[hitman]

DX10 is allready on Vista. And as far as performance goes....it IS a hell of a lot faster than XP in a lot of areas...and gaming for me IS a lot faster than when I had Xp. My frames in LOMAC are slick as oil (I have to play w/o antialiasing that will drag my computer through mud). Its solidly built, but hey. Xp is proven, Vista isnt. In 6 months to a year Ill damn near guarantee this o/s will take off. I just managed to grab my ultimate or a damn good price.

 

Quite honestly...if I wasnt able to install Xp on this thing I would have a dual boot partition for Xp for when I have to upload songs to my mp3 and cell phone and do the rest of my work on Vista. EyeCandy: yes, and lots of it. Is it secure straight off the shelf? Yes. Truth is there are a lot of workarounds allready for this as far as sound accelleration goes...but to get the most out of it Id say wait a year before installing Vista. And for gods sakes...if you must install Xp before Vista and you decide to USE Vista...UNINSTALL XP FIRST. Microsoft will suspend ur license for xp.

[VMFA-Blaze]

I'd be happy to buy Vista if it offered anything I want or need... but it doesn't. XP is a very good OS now, and security etc. aren't a problem if you have half a clue. So Vista's an expensive, DRM infected side-grade, not an upgrade.

 

I do have a spare PC though, assembled from various cast-off bits and pieces, and if a DX10 game comes along which really interests me (Chrysis might be it, but I think it'll still be great using DX9) I may buy Vista just to see if the DX10 features are worthwhile. It definitely won't go on my main, quiet work/Internet box or my noisy games machine until after SP1 at the earliest.

 

So, er... if money's not a problem I'd keep it for future use, but I certainly wouldn't install it now on a machine I care about.

 

Andrew McP

 

That pretty much sums it up for me as I have a DX10 card, I'm most interested in what this will look like on my gaming rig and I think Cyrus will most likely be the game of the year when its released... but I'm a little apprehensive in installing it on this one because of the driver issue .... But I'm sure gong to install it on my 2 year old system... It sounds like a potentially great operating system for business at this point.. And should get even better as the year progresses...

 

~S~

 

Blaze

[dodger42]

I'd like to say switch to linux, but that is not an option and it won't be one for a long while.

 

Keep that copy of Vista, it might come in handy some time later.

 

I have Fedora 6 on a laptop. Its really nice in many ways, but painful in others. Its fine as an enthusiasts machine, but not really as general use. So many things can and do go wrong on a linux box that require lots of troubleshooting.

 

Also Wireless is still painful on linux. Hopefully Ubuntu's next release will resolve that. But one of my biggest gripes is the difficulty getting dual monitors to work. In the case of windows, if I want to project a presentation, I simply plug in the projector and hit the alt-f7 or similar key (depending on laptop) and 90% of the time you're good to go. A reboot fixes the other 10%. On linux, this has proven to be very, very painful and unreliable. Bummer.