BigBadVuk Posted July 2, 2018 Posted July 2, 2018 (edited) Hello guys, i got this module 10 hours ago and it is pure mess Game keeps crashing when i use it and on top i have bunch of issues: Most important problem atm is that Viggen keeps ignoring my X and Y axis inputs from pedals. Other modules work perfectly with inverted axis input for brakes, except Viggen dont see them at all.. only solution is to press W on keyboard which i simply refuse to do. Any ideas? EDIT: in fact breaking refuses any axis input, i just tried stick X axis (roll normally) and it ignored it.... so? Refund or there is some trick im missing? Edited July 2, 2018 by BigBadVuk
Greyman Posted July 3, 2018 Posted July 3, 2018 My toe brakes work as required, with the axis NOT inverted, so it might be worth trying that. Also, with a new aircraft module, the axes can be mapped, by default, to each of your controllers, so you can have your thrust axis allocated to your joystick or toe brakes allocated to the throttle, for example. It might therefore be worth clearing any unwanted mappings, to remove the chances of any conflicts.
BigBadVuk Posted July 3, 2018 Author Posted July 3, 2018 I cleared all categories, so it cant be random interference from a stick or throttle.. What puzzled me is that key input work (W) , but not axis one... I will try to experiment a bit once i get home, im at work atm.
Goblin Posted July 3, 2018 Posted July 3, 2018 Are you trying to map the wheel brake command, or the left wheel brake and right wheel brake commands? Here’s Chuck Owls great Viggen guide with a lot of great info. http://www.mudspike.com/chucks-guides-dcs-ajs-37-viggen/ Also, the Viggen is still in Early Access. There may be bugs.
BigBadVuk Posted July 3, 2018 Author Posted July 3, 2018 I want just my right toe brake to be for both wheels.. Problem is, game is ignoring the input ( this module only to be exact, all others dont have issue at all) and it is not about pedals - i tried to assign throttle or stick axis as well , no joy. P.S. it is not early access state, it is completely broken state atm. IT crashes entire sim after every and each flight - that is why im thinking about refund.
Goblin Posted July 3, 2018 Posted July 3, 2018 So, you are trying to map a toe brake axis to the wheel brake command? I don’t think this command is active in the Viggen module.
BigBadVuk Posted July 3, 2018 Author Posted July 3, 2018 Well it is listed, and when i click on "assign Axis" and press my right toe pedal it registers movement, and it can be saved as assigned axis for general brake force, except nothing happens when you try to brake in game itself... Very weird man!
Holton181 Posted July 3, 2018 Posted July 3, 2018 P.S. it is not early access state, it is completely broken state atm. IT crashes entire sim after every and each flight - that is why im thinking about refund. Well, this is a new bug and it has been corrected already by the developer. So it's not like it's been there from start. And it's still flyable, just a little tedious to be forced to restart DCS, but not really catastrophic knowing a fix is already on its way. Quite some exaggeration here in my opinion. Unfortunately, it's not up to the third party developers to push patches for bugs, not even severe ones like this. It's done by ED when they feel for it, every two weeks or so (generally Wednesdays). And added to that, patches arrive to the DCS beta before reaching the stable version and beta gets several updates before finaly classified for stable, and last week ED decided present beta is stable enough to go to stable, meaning this bug is present in both versions. We can only hope for an update tomorrow, but it will most likely be for only beta. God knows when the fix reaches stable. Regarding the brakes. Sorry for asking a maybe stupid question, but when you say you have mapped an axis to the brakes but nothing happens when using it, do you mean you made the plane move forvard then tried to brake without slowing down, or that you stood still and could not see the braking animation? I ask this because some people that just bought this EARLY ACCESS (i.e. beta) aircraft complaining about knobs and switches not working, but were it's only the animation that has not yet been implemented and the functionality do exist and work. Helicopters and Viggen DCS 1.5.7 and OpenBeta Win7 Pro 64bit i7-3820 3.60GHz P9X79 Pro 32GB GTX 670 2GB VG278H + a Dell PFT Lynx TrackIR 5
Goblin Posted July 3, 2018 Posted July 3, 2018 except nothing happens when you try to brake in game itself... I’m thinking it’s correct behaviour, as the real Viggen doesn’t have a general brake for both wheels. Only differential brakes, controlled by the rudder/nosewheel steering pedals. I mean, sure, it’s listed, but Heatblur may have chosen not to use that control in the module.
Goblin Posted July 3, 2018 Posted July 3, 2018 it is not early access state, it is completely broken state atm. Early access means that the module is still under development, and problems can occur. It’s perfectly normal. If beta testing isn’t your thing, don’t buy unfinished software. And, as already stated, the bugs you see in the module may have been caused by updates to DCS, and may very well be out of Heatblurs control. But, hey! Your call. :)
BigBadVuk Posted July 4, 2018 Author Posted July 4, 2018 Problem solved.. I gave up on axis until they get this sorted out, simple mapping wheel brakes to one of joystick keys did the trick for now. And no i dont care about switches.. axis braking didnt worked at all...
surstromming Posted July 4, 2018 Posted July 4, 2018 Problem solved.. I gave up on axis until they get this sorted out, simple mapping wheel brakes to one of joystick keys did the trick for now. And no i dont care about switches.. axis braking didnt worked at all... It is working if you put individual toe breaks, one for right and one for left. But maybe you don't want that? Best regards /M
BigBadVuk Posted July 4, 2018 Author Posted July 4, 2018 It is working if you put individual toe breaks, one for right and one for left. But maybe you don't want that? Best regards /M That is exactly what i dont want to. Im sick of skidding & sliding because my left and right pedal inputs are not symmetrical. So it is 1 pedal for brakes or no pedals at all. Btw. if module ignores general brake input, then why it is even there in command list?
Hoffster Posted July 4, 2018 Posted July 4, 2018 see post #27 https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=181565 maby it works on the newest OB update? i have not tested yet.
Retnek Posted July 4, 2018 Posted July 4, 2018 No, not now. Left and right hand toe brakes do fine with the two pedal "brake axis' ", but not the axis control for both of them. But the single-key-binding is doing fine. Now I see the wisdom of the Virpil-guys to add a button function to the brake leveller at my stick. "Those who admire me for my 275 kills know nothing about war" Günther Rall
Vannipo Posted July 4, 2018 Posted July 4, 2018 I can confirm, that 2-wheels braking with one axis is not possible right now. I mean, ok, early access, but... we are talking about wheel brakes, nothing special... And I do it on all planes like you: I brake in all planes, I own, with one brake pedal. Except @ rolling with old machines. In this case, I use the WIN-Key and brake with clutch and gas pedal, which are similar. Under my desk, I have a Fanatec Pedal set with 3 pedals. But no rudders. @the creators: Please fix it :)
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