Aim-7 HOW??

[MustanGrande]

Just... HOW??

TRACK: https://www.dropbox.com/s/arvzn1dv5tk4tti/server-20180802-195231.trk?dl=0

Edited August 3, 2018 by MustanGrande

[David OC]

Did you catch up to the first missile, Once it was unpowered?

 

Not at home right now to see the track.

[MustanGrande]

Did you catch up to the first missile, Once it was unpowered?

 

Not at home right now to see the track.

 

I was pulling lead on a target, pulled the trigger, and my jet exploded. lol

[Nealius]

Missiles tried to pull lead on the target (because that's what missiles do) and your jet happened to be in the flightpath. It looks like the missiles were on the waist stations, is that correct? It probably wouldn't have happened if they were on wing stations. Waist stations eject the missile first, so the missile will fall below and slightly behind your jet before ignition, IIRC.

[MustanGrande]

Missiles tried to pull lead on the target (because that's what missiles do) and your jet happened to be in the flightpath. It looks like the missiles were on the waist stations, is that correct? It probably wouldn't have happened if they were on wing stations. Waist stations eject the missile first, so the missile will fall below and slightly behind your jet before ignition, IIRC.

 

Sounds about right.

[Nealius]

I guessed the real ones might not pull lead until clear of the jet, but DCS missiles are rather (in)famous for doing strange things.

[MustanGrande]

On an off-topic note, this same training session saw my instructor take an Aim-9 to the face with no ill effects. lol

 

[Nealius]

And this is why I use all my modules as bomb trucks :joystick:

[hellrequiem]

Missiles were on the waist stations thats clear. It happens, sometimes, arodynamics "momojhombo" phenomenom, force that the stores separeted from the fuselage behaves in unpredictive ways. Now thats real world, in the simulation, is also posible and depends on the level of fidelity of the aerodynamics bleed air simulation was done. In my opinion, ED have been achive a plausible model that permits this, very real, very rare, anomalos detached of the stores from the fuselage. See this history: http://www.ejectionsite.com/F-14%20SHOOTDOWN.pdf

[FSKRipper]

Shi* happens sometimes…

 

http://www.ejectionsite.com/F-14%20SHOOTDOWN.pdf

 

 

 

EDIT: SNIPED :pilotfly:

[Pikey]

looks like the second missile hits the first as your right wing rolls down.

[Robert31178]

Aim7’s have autopilot algorithms to avoid that problem. They will fly away after ejection for a certain time/distance before pulling required lead. Warheads don’t arm until clear for similar reasons.

 

I don't think the arming would matter, if it hit your plane armed or not it would likely take you down I imagine.

[antagonist]

Missiles were on the waist stations thats clear. It happens, sometimes, arodynamics "momojhombo" phenomenom, force that the stores separeted from the fuselage behaves in unpredictive ways. Now thats real world, in the simulation, is also posible and depends on the level of fidelity of the aerodynamics bleed air simulation was done. In my opinion, ED have been achive a plausible model that permits this, very real, very rare, anomalos detached of the stores from the fuselage. See this history: http://www.ejectionsite.com/F-14%20SHOOTDOWN.pdf

 

You're forgetting that accidental case of shooting oneself down was a certification flight for the rearmost fuselage station.

 

"The 7E2’s casing, however, was slightly thinner than the 7F’s. The missile launcher feet contained a smaller charge because Raytheon’s engineers thought a larger charge might fire the feet with enough force to break the missile casing."

 

To extrapolate from this test - to my knowledge the only occasion where a plane has shot itself down with its own missile - is more than dubious in my opinion.