ATC in F10 Map View

[Dutch Baron]

Hello everyone,

 

I suggested an ATC Feature in the F10 MAP view in this post:

https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=167060

 

After more than 2 years and absolutely no answer from ED or an ED representative, I thought that maybe a POLL would get some things started, if other customers would also fancy this ATC feature.

 

I'm willing to pay money for this as a separate module and I'm thinking about 14,99 US Dollar for such a module, or more if it's absolutely awesome!

 

A few of the features I'd like to suggest are:

 

- Labels on clients/units with normal ATC info (speed, altitude, heading, name)

- Add a line/arrow on the symbols to show direction

- Use FOG OF WAR setting so only included radar installations etc. will pick up units

- Add an option in the mission editor called: ATC. Just like FAC/JTAC etc.

- Maybe add a REALISTIC (fog of war) and ARCADE (show all) option for testing purposes

- DO NOT show ground units, just airplanes (or make it optional), since all ground unit names really clutter the F10 map view.

- If ATC is enabled, or ATC slot is in use then STOP in-game AI ATC per coalition/airbase

- Weather info per airport, in the form of a 'hover mouse over airbase' and a little popup with

the info will show. It should show the wind speed + gusts, wind direction, QNH, and which RWY number is ACTIVE.

- Different map colors (simple dark outlines), but also standard DCS map with ALT/SAT view.

 

Now maybe a more difficult feature to create which would be awesome, but maybe for a later stage:

- A view from any COALITION airport TOWER, where you can look around over the airport and use SCROLL WHEEL on mouse to zoom in/out. Of course prevent that the ATC can look at ENEMY airports.

 

The complete base is already there, the F10 map, it just needs some graphical alterations and obviously code.

For the experienced developers at ED, this should be a feasible option to be created in a relatively short time.

This suggestion would make for many more people to be able to do ATC, no extra programs needed, and would possibly get more people to be interested in doing ATC.

And if this is a standard option on ANY server, we immediately get the chance to expand the immersion on any server.

 

Maybe a cool project for young developers who have an internship at Eagle Dynamics?

Edited August 31, 2018 by Dutch Baron

[shawnpatrick5000]

I would purchase a module that would support this feature. C'mon ED please look into this!!

 

:thumbup:

[TAW_Mago]

Me too!

[Icebeat]

Why not add increase Airport's lights visibility and ATC AI traffic control and guidance.

[Dutch Baron]

@Icebeat

 

If we ask for more things, it will take more time and effort for ED to create it, looking at all things they have going right now, this suggested ATC feature may never come if extra things are requested.

 

With my suggestion, the complete base is already there, the F10 map, it just needs some graphical alterations and obviously code.

For the experienced developers at ED, this should be a feasible option to be created in a relatively short time.

If we ask for more AI stuff and other things, this whole thing will become a long term project, which will most likely end up in not being produced at all, if we even get a positive response from ED on this suggestion at all.

Also, those items you are talking about have been asked for/reported in other threads, so no need to add them here.

Edited August 30, 2018 by Dutch Baron

[HiJack]

Extremely needed update/module. Much more needed than the AI ATC functions!

[HiJack]

There should be an option for disabling AI ATC even without any updated module or new module!

[BaD CrC]

Guys, stop waiting and get yourself LotATC for 20 euros. It is an extremely realistic ATC simulation (assuming you push the realism sliders all the way), it is perfectly integrated into DCS and the server part is free. ED will never get close to this no matter how much effort they are willing to put into this, if they ever decide to go ahead which will never happen since LotATC have a 3rd party licence with them.

[twistking]

Guys, stop waiting and get yourself LotATC for 20 euros. It is an extremely realistic ATC simulation (assuming you push the realism sliders all the way), it is perfectly integrated into DCS and the server part is free. ED will never get close to this no matter how much effort they are willing to put into this, if they ever decide to go ahead which will never happen since LotATC have a 3rd party licence with them.

 

LotAtc looks really good indeed, however a simpler implementation would still be a great fit for dcs world/combined arms. As mentioned by the OP, the function could utilize the f-10 map, so there would not be a whole lot of art assets required. But for this to really shine, there should be proper VoIP implementation also, otherwise you're again fiddling with external programs and mods...

[FriedrichNix]

I'd rather have a DCS Module as well.

 

After checking out LotATC I find it not really the thing I'd like to have.

For one thing one would need an AWACS type Airspace controller, but on the other side, I'd really like to get into the game as Tower & Ground control. See the airport, see taxi and runways, assign departing and landing aircraft to runways and gibe them taxi instructions.

Almost everything for this would be already in DCS.

 

Also It would be nice to have an option to turn off the AI ATC completely.

 

I'd pay for that :-D

Edited September 27, 2018 by DoctorDigital

[Alpenwolf]

Hope this becomes reality one day. Productive thought there, Dutch!

[Xilon_x]

let's put the case that two X nations go to war in reality the civil traffic ATC would not exist.if I look at what happened in UKRAINE the traffic ATC was diverted from the war zones, so it does not exist.IO not that it remains only and exclusively ATC MILITARY traffic.

 

if you think about it, you can not turn a map into a radar for ATC traffic control would also change the icons with the standard ATC icons.

 

then in the map in DCS there are 3 types of traffic

air traffic

maritime traffic

and ground radar control. with SAM stations.

 

 

how do you make all 3 types of traffic match? they have 3 different symbologies and 3 different technologies.

[Xilon_x]

look here and check the traffic in the area of ​​the donbass near the Crimea and there is ATC traffic.

 

https://www.flightradar24.com/46.21,36.58/7

 

look at the maritime traffic here.

 

https://www.marinetraffic.com/it/ais/home/centerx:36.6/centery:45.3/zoom:8

[HiJack]

Hello everyone,

 

I suggested an ATC Feature in the F10 MAP view in this post:

https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=167060

 

After more than 2 years and absolutely no answer from ED or an ED representative, I thought that maybe a POLL would get some things started, if other customers would also fancy this ATC feature.

 

I'm willing to pay money for this as a separate module and I'm thinking about 14,99 US Dollar for such a module, or more if it's absolutely awesome!

 

A few of the features I'd like to suggest are:

 

- Labels on clients/units with normal ATC info (speed, altitude, heading, name)

- Add a line/arrow on the symbols to show direction

- Use FOG OF WAR setting so only included radar installations etc. will pick up units

- Add an option in the mission editor called: ATC. Just like FAC/JTAC etc.

- Maybe add a REALISTIC (fog of war) and ARCADE (show all) option for testing purposes

- DO NOT show ground units, just airplanes (or make it optional), since all ground unit names really clutter the F10 map view.

- If ATC is enabled, or ATC slot is in use then STOP in-game AI ATC per coalition/airbase

- Weather info per airport, in the form of a 'hover mouse over airbase' and a little popup with

the info will show. It should show the wind speed + gusts, wind direction, QNH, and which RWY number is ACTIVE.

- Different map colors (simple dark outlines), but also standard DCS map with ALT/SAT view.

 

Now maybe a more difficult feature to create which would be awesome, but maybe for a later stage:

- A view from any COALITION airport TOWER, where you can look around over the airport and use SCROLL WHEEL on mouse to zoom in/out. Of course prevent that the ATC can look at ENEMY airports.

 

The complete base is already there, the F10 map, it just needs some graphical alterations and obviously code.

For the experienced developers at ED, this should be a feasible option to be created in a relatively short time.

This suggestion would make for many more people to be able to do ATC, no extra programs needed, and would possibly get more people to be interested in doing ATC.

And if this is a standard option on ANY server, we immediately get the chance to expand the immersion on any server.

 

Maybe a cool project for young developers who have an internship at Eagle Dynamics?

 

So what about this ED? :music_whistling: