golani79 Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 Looking good :top: >> DCS liveries by golani79 << Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vander Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogonaut Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 Well done! Looking better already Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Tigre. Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 Good work! Thanks :thumbup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefaultFace Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 Very nice! 9./JG27 "If you can't hit anything, it's because you suck. If you get shot down, it's because you suck. You and me, we know we suck, and that makes it ok." - Worst person in all of DCS "In the end, which will never come, we will all be satisifed... we must fight them on forum, we will fight them on reddit..." - Dunravin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team Coyote Posted October 14, 2018 ED Team Share Posted October 14, 2018 guys, what thoughts? What color to leave? Я принимаю модели, а вы мучаетесь, но у вас растет мастерство!!!:book: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saburo_cz Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 guys, what thoughts? What color to leave? Whole cockpit in RLM 66, including instrument panel, and bomb`s control box in black, that is only correct way. F-15E | F-14A/B P-51D | P-47D | Mosquito FB Mk VI |Spitfire | Fw 190D | Fw 190A | Bf 109K | WWII Assets Pack Normandy 2 | The Channel | Sinai | Syria | PG | NTTR | South Atlantic F/A-18 | F-86 | F-16C | A-10C | FC-3 | CA | SC | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team Coyote Posted October 14, 2018 ED Team Share Posted October 14, 2018 Whole cockpit in RLM 66, including instrument panel, and bomb`s control box in black, that is only correct way. what for the plane and what year of a photo? Я принимаю модели, а вы мучаетесь, но у вас растет мастерство!!!:book: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team Coyote Posted October 14, 2018 ED Team Share Posted October 14, 2018 Whole cockpit in RLM 66, including instrument panel, and bomb`s control box in black, that is only correct way. RLM 66 yes, but nobody knows its correct color. I select color for real devices. On your photo of the panel not gray-black. The panel bomb is more dark. On my screenshot, RLM 66 from an example of color, is more dark than black and gives an error message. Я принимаю модели, а вы мучаетесь, но у вас растет мастерство!!!:book: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefaultFace Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 (edited) I compared to some pictures and I agree with Saburo RLM 66 is definitely correct. The thing is it depends alot on lighting. The lighter parts look alot like the RLM 66 FS you posted and the darker areas with a bit more shadows or less glarey look very similar to the other RLM 66 you posted. Edited October 14, 2018 by DefaultFace 9./JG27 "If you can't hit anything, it's because you suck. If you get shot down, it's because you suck. You and me, we know we suck, and that makes it ok." - Worst person in all of DCS "In the end, which will never come, we will all be satisifed... we must fight them on forum, we will fight them on reddit..." - Dunravin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ala13_ManOWar Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 RLM 66 yes, but nobody knows its correct color. I select color for real devices. On your photo of the panel not gray-black. The panel bomb is more dark. On my screenshot, RLM 66 from an example of color, is more dark than black and gives an error message.The lighter, or faded, RLM 66 in your cockpit sample would be good enough. People will complain anyway no matter which shade you pic and well, shade is known but there were no colorimetric paint machines back then so no two paint cans were the same. That's just good enough. With regards to the year of the pic you ask, never mind the year, at some point (late 1940 IIRC, maybe 1941) Luftwaffe orders said cockpits should be painted overall RLM 66 and that's it to the end. All Fw190 since prototypes should be painted like that since 190 was born after that orders, slight variation in shade aside. S! "I went into the British Army believing that if you want peace you must prepare for war. I believe now that if you prepare for war, you get war." -- Major-General Frederick B. Maurice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team Coyote Posted October 14, 2018 ED Team Share Posted October 14, 2018 The lighter, or faded, RLM 66 in your cockpit sample would be good enough. People will complain anyway no matter which shade you pic and well, shade is known but there were no colorimetric paint machines back then so no two paint cans were the same. That's just good enough. With regards to the year of the pic you ask, never mind the year, at some point (late 1940 IIRC, maybe 1941) Luftwaffe orders said cockpits should be painted overall RLM 66 and that's it to the end. All Fw190 since prototypes should be painted like that since 190 was born after that orders, slight variation in shade aside. S! Guys, well, RLM 66. Show me the correct sample, not a photo of 1941. If you want, give me RGB RLM 66. We have a wonderful game cursor. On RLM 66 screenshot, is more dark than black technical labels. In a viewer gives an error message. On the general perception of flowers it it is real more black, than darkly gray. RLM 66 FS is similar to gray-green, it is closer to RLM 02 that too is wrong. Give me a sample or RGB of the correct RLM 66. How to be with the directive L.Div 521 from December 1941 Я принимаю модели, а вы мучаетесь, но у вас растет мастерство!!!:book: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ala13_ManOWar Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 Guys, well, RLM 66. Show me the correct sample, not a photo of 1941. If you want, give me RGB RLM 66. We have a wonderful game cursor. On RLM 66 screenshot, is more dark than black technical labels. In a viewer gives an error message. On the general perception of flowers it it is real more black, than darkly gray. RLM 66 FS is similar to gray-green, it is closer to RLM 02 that too is wrong. Give me a sample or RGB of the correct RLM 66. How to be with the directive L.Div 521 from December 1941 Original equipment, not a 1941 pic. Doesn't matter which thing equipped this, RLM 66. S! "I went into the British Army believing that if you want peace you must prepare for war. I believe now that if you prepare for war, you get war." -- Major-General Frederick B. Maurice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saburo_cz Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 (edited) Guys, well, RLM 66. Show me the correct sample, not a photo of 1941. If you want, give me RGB RLM 66. We have a wonderful game cursor. On RLM 66 screenshot, is more dark than black technical labels. In a viewer gives an error message. On the general perception of flowers it it is real more black, than darkly gray. RLM 66 FS is similar to gray-green, it is closer to RLM 02 that too is wrong. Give me a sample or RGB of the correct RLM 66. How to be with the directive L.Div 521 from December 1941 The foto is from 1945 taken by Allies, it is A or F model. According page, links bellow, RLM66 is RAL 7021. http://www.rlm.at/cont/archiv01_e.htm I know that RLM 66 did not have only one shade. For example in Jerry Crandall`s book (FW 190D, volume 2) are described six different Formulas. Unfortunately, clorours are not presented, only included pigment`s names and value for them... In text is written that RLM 66 formulas changed 8 (eight) times between 1st December 41 and 28th April 42. But, it is still RLM 66 and not RLM 41 presented on A-8 picture. Edited October 14, 2018 by saburo_cz F-15E | F-14A/B P-51D | P-47D | Mosquito FB Mk VI |Spitfire | Fw 190D | Fw 190A | Bf 109K | WWII Assets Pack Normandy 2 | The Channel | Sinai | Syria | PG | NTTR | South Atlantic F/A-18 | F-86 | F-16C | A-10C | FC-3 | CA | SC | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team Coyote Posted October 14, 2018 ED Team Share Posted October 14, 2018 The foto is from 1945 taken by Allies, it is A or F model. But, it is still RLM 66 and not RLM 41 presented on A-8 picture. there was information that devices were painted in RLM 66, here on it the device is more dark than the dashboard. What are thoughts? Я принимаю модели, а вы мучаетесь, но у вас растет мастерство!!!:book: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saburo_cz Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 I can only guess. Different color supplier, different painted material, different painting conditions and so on. As i udnderstood there were different requirements on colour`s resistance, against fire, corrosion.. It required different compounds and these slightly changed shades. F-15E | F-14A/B P-51D | P-47D | Mosquito FB Mk VI |Spitfire | Fw 190D | Fw 190A | Bf 109K | WWII Assets Pack Normandy 2 | The Channel | Sinai | Syria | PG | NTTR | South Atlantic F/A-18 | F-86 | F-16C | A-10C | FC-3 | CA | SC | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team Coyote Posted October 14, 2018 ED Team Share Posted October 14, 2018 how now? Я принимаю модели, а вы мучаетесь, но у вас растет мастерство!!!:book: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team Coyote Posted October 14, 2018 ED Team Share Posted October 14, 2018 I can only guess. Different color supplier, different painted material, different painting conditions and so on. As i udnderstood there were different requirements on colour`s resistance, against fire, corrosion.. It required different compounds and these slightly changed shades. guys, I want that everything was good! That you did not write then that color not correct. Я принимаю модели, а вы мучаетесь, но у вас растет мастерство!!!:book: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ala13_ManOWar Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 how now?A bit on the dark side "for my taste", but looks probably correct for a freshly painted RLM 66. S! "I went into the British Army believing that if you want peace you must prepare for war. I believe now that if you prepare for war, you get war." -- Major-General Frederick B. Maurice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team Coyote Posted October 14, 2018 ED Team Share Posted October 14, 2018 A bit on the dark side "for my taste", but looks probably correct for a freshly painted RLM 66. S! sidewalls and cockpit in general, yet did not recolour. So far only dashboards. Я принимаю модели, а вы мучаетесь, но у вас растет мастерство!!!:book: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogonaut Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 maybe u can make the light come in from the back so we can see it in bright sunlight, cause its hard to tell in the shadow areas. im no expert but i like how it looks. and thx for the effort communicating with us, thats awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdstrike Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 what about the cockpit bar?? :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogonaut Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 what about the cockpit bar?? :) good question haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team Coyote Posted October 15, 2018 ED Team Share Posted October 15, 2018 what about the cockpit bar?? :) did not understand a question. Formulate a question please more precisely. Я принимаю модели, а вы мучаетесь, но у вас растет мастерство!!!:book: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefaultFace Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 Old joke (sort of) about the 190 in flight simulators. 9./JG27 "If you can't hit anything, it's because you suck. If you get shot down, it's because you suck. You and me, we know we suck, and that makes it ok." - Worst person in all of DCS "In the end, which will never come, we will all be satisifed... we must fight them on forum, we will fight them on reddit..." - Dunravin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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