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Slaw all the way. Don't bother with the TPRs

My controls & seat


Main controls: , BRD-N v4 Flightstick (Kreml C5 controller), TM Warthog Throttle (Kreml F3 controller), BRD-F2 Restyling Bf-109 Pedals w. damper, TrackIR5, Gametrix KW-908 (integrated into RAV4 seat)

Stick grips:

Thrustmaster Warthog

Thrustmaster Cougar (x2)

Thrustmaster F-16 FLCS



Standby controls:

BRD-M2 Mi-8 Pedals (Ruddermaster controller)

BRD-N v3 Flightstick w. exch. grip upgrade (Kreml C5 controller)

Thrustmaster Cougar Throttle

Pilot seat



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Slaw all the way. Don't bother with the TPRs



But why? Have you been able to try both? I'd hate to overlook them just because their Hotus has fallen behind, as these pedals seems to be another world for them. The pendulum action "appears" much more realistic to me than the rotational action of Slaw and those others.



To complicate matters. it appears BRD still sells a all metal pedal "Kit" that "used" to be much cheaper? Not sure of his current price, or if it's still available?

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Yes, never go with a blind opinion. It's the typical, Ford or Chevy? Ford because that's all I grew up with...... Without ever owning a Chevy. Get an informed opinion. Like I said I have zero experience with the slaws. Dollar for dollar the MFGs are hard to beat. Very well constructed. On version 3 so they are probably well refined. The TPRs aren't time tested but so far they are fantastic. If you have any questions please feel free to PM me. Best of luck!

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If you're going to buy expensive pedals, Slaw is the best. Period. TM is pushing the pendular action for all it's worth, but it isn't going to beat the artisan quality of Slaw's pedals.


Well I don't know that I'd slaw slaws are the best. Period. MFG's I would say are as good. The better may be in the minutia that 99% of even we picky guys wouldn't notice.


I sit in the I havent used the TM product but I wouldn't buy them until they are proven such as the MFG's and Slaws are. I use TM Warthog HOTAS but now that Virpil and etc are on the market I probably wouldn't buy them again. Once the TM internals were proven to be an issue and the Virpil all metal joystick base wasn't, I quickly changed my mind on TM products.


Whatever your choice, I'll look forward to the feedback or the confirmation of MFG's/Slaws dominance.


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The Slaw Pedals are built to a whole different level than any other commercial product. That’s one reason they are so expensive. I've gone through at least four sets of rudder Pedals over the past number of years. My RX Viper Pedals by Slaw are built so well they will definitely outlive me.


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It's horses for courses. All the custom made rudder vendors (MFG, Slaw, BRD) get glowing reviews. Thrustmaster one is new, so I don't think there is a large sample population you can draw from.


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The TM TPR pedals have a crappy pincer mechanism, there is no comparison really. Go BRD or Slaw for amazing combat style pedals, for desktop foot on top style the MFGs are good as well.

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SLAW forever


I use RX pedals from Slaw Device since 2 years whitout Any troubles, never re-calibrate, never touch anythings since i get it. It works like "a charme".:)

apologyze for my english.:P



I use TM warthog joy and throttle, but i don't think to buy a thrustmaster new one ....

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Read this:




As others have said, Slaws are far superior.



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