Flamin_Squirrel Posted October 20, 2018 Posted October 20, 2018 As per the title, on pulling of the emergency brake lever, the brakes are applied. This doesn't seem right to me. If I understand this system correctly, pulling the lever should switch from 2A to 2B hydraulic source, but otherwise function the same (other than no anti-skid) as normal brakes i.e. by use of brake pedals.
Flamin_Squirrel Posted October 27, 2018 Author Posted October 27, 2018 Anyone else have any thoughts on this one? Thanks.
Sarge55 Posted October 27, 2018 Posted October 27, 2018 I never tried it so I just thought up until now that if I pulled the emergency brake lever I would have brakes applied. Like an E-brake on a car. I didn't realize it switched to a back up system and I still had to apply toe brakes. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] i7 10700K OC 5.1GHZ / 500GB SSD & 1TB M:2 & 4TB HDD / MSI Gaming MB / GTX 1080 / 32GB RAM / Win 10 / TrackIR 4 Pro / CH Pedals / TM Warthog
Frederf Posted October 27, 2018 Posted October 27, 2018 The emergency brake handle does not apply braking action itself. The pedals are used to apply the emergency brakes in a manner similar to the normal brakes. It is similar to the function in the A-10.
Flamin_Squirrel Posted October 27, 2018 Author Posted October 27, 2018 The emergency brake handle does not apply braking action itself. The pedals are used to apply the emergency brakes in a manner similar to the normal brakes. It is similar to the function in the A-10. Yeah that's how I expect it to work too; but (at least for me) it isn't doing that. Pulling the handle puts the brakes on full :shocking:
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Alphamale Posted December 5, 2018 Posted December 5, 2018 Still not been fixed. Can someone acknowledge this one please? Did you confirm that both brakes are on full with CTL-ENTER or was that just your feeling?
Flamin_Squirrel Posted December 5, 2018 Author Posted December 5, 2018 Yes, the white lines move to the top.
Alphamale Posted December 5, 2018 Posted December 5, 2018 Yes, the white lines move to the top. Takeoff, landing or both
Flamin_Squirrel Posted December 5, 2018 Author Posted December 5, 2018 What are you talking about? Any time. Pulling the lever activates the brakes, that's it.
Alphamale Posted December 5, 2018 Posted December 5, 2018 What are you talking about? Any time. Pulling the lever activates the brakes, that's it. So do my pedals, but they release when I let up. You're saying the lever LOCKS the brakes, are you not?
Flamin_Squirrel Posted December 5, 2018 Author Posted December 5, 2018 So do my pedals, but they release when I let up. You're saying the lever LOCKS the brakes, are you not? Yes, that's the whole point of this thread.
Alphamale Posted December 5, 2018 Posted December 5, 2018 Yes, that's the whole point of this thread. Sorry, I intruded here when I should have kept my mouth shut...:(
Flamin_Squirrel Posted December 5, 2018 Author Posted December 5, 2018 No harm done. If you find something different let me know. I'm pretty sure it's a bug, but it's always possible I've made a mistake.
Alphamale Posted December 5, 2018 Posted December 5, 2018 FWIW, I did find this in a old thread but it is for the A-10C...but perhaps the mechanisms are similar... "Emergency Brake System An emergency brake system is provided in the event that the normal brake system fails. The emergency brake system is activated by first pulling the EMER BRAKE handle fully aft and then depressing the rudder/brake pedals. The right hydraulic system supplies the emergency brake system which has the same capabilities as the normal brake system except anti-skid protection. The emergency brake system is fully independent of the normal brake system except for the dual power brake valve, shuttle valve, and brake assembly. Should left hydraulic system pressure become available while emergency braking is selected the emergency brake system still retains control of the brakes. Emergency braking power is provided by the emergency brake accumulator should the right hydraulic system fail. Actuation of the EMER BRAKE handle ports right hydraulic system pressure to the emergency brake system. Right hydraulic system pressure provides unlimited emergency braking."
Alphamale Posted December 5, 2018 Posted December 5, 2018 No harm done. If you find something different let me know. I'm pretty sure it's a bug, but it's always possible I've made a mistake. Now as i read that thread, it seems like just pulling the E brake alone should NOT cause any braking, you must also apply toe brakes, which is what you were saying/implying? ...then I remembered that occasionally my toe brakes start out depressed slightly especially when I noticed strange behavior on carrier landings (I could not raise the tail hook or the catch wire would not release...all due to input from toe brakes which I could not see unless I had the CTL-ENT grid on. So I wonder if that's what caused it...Unless it happens all the time...I just landed a few tims and set the E brake and even tho the grid showed brakes were at max level, I ran off the end of the runway...I did not use toe brakes
Flamin_Squirrel Posted December 5, 2018 Author Posted December 5, 2018 FWIW, I did find this in a old thread but it is for the A-10C...but perhaps the mechanisms are similar... Yes I believe the hornet should work the same way. Now as i read that thread, it seems like just pulling the E brake alone should NOT cause any braking, you must also apply toe brakes, which is what you were saying/implying? ...then I remembered that occasionally my toe brakes start out depressed slightly especially when I noticed strange behavior on carrier landings (I could not raise the tail hook or the catch wire would not release...all due to input from toe brakes which I could not see unless I had the CTL-ENT grid on. So I wonder if that's what caused it...Unless it happens all the time...I just landed a few tims and set the E brake and even tho the grid showed brakes were at max level, I ran off the end of the runway...I did not use toe brakes Yes that's exactly what I'm saying. It has nothing to do with your toe brakes though. Start a mission hot without touching them, press CTRL ENT, pull the emergency brake and watch the brake get applied. You now can't move forward.
Alphamale Posted December 5, 2018 Posted December 5, 2018 Yes I believe the hornet should work the same way. Yes that's exactly what I'm saying. It has nothing to do with your toe brakes though. Start a mission hot without touching them, press CTRL ENT, pull the emergency brake and watch the brake get applied. You now can't move forward. Started at ramp, placed E brake on and took off twice...it did drag a bit more than normal but was airborne without going AB
Flamin_Squirrel Posted December 5, 2018 Author Posted December 5, 2018 Did you pull the lever all the way out? What did you see with the control overlay? I should have taken a screen shot. Will have to wait until tomorrow.
Alphamale Posted December 5, 2018 Posted December 5, 2018 Did you pull the lever all the way out? What did you see with the control overlay? I should have taken a screen shot. Will have to wait until tomorrow.
Flamin_Squirrel Posted December 5, 2018 Author Posted December 5, 2018 Thanks for that. I get the same. I'm sure that's not right.
Ryback Posted December 5, 2018 Posted December 5, 2018 Parking Brake doesn't engage on the carrier after landing.On airbases functions properly: ( control indicator white lines go up ) On the carrier only when you turn as for emergency..Pull function does nothing.Is it the one you were talking about? If so it must be a bug.
Flamin_Squirrel Posted January 3, 2019 Author Posted January 3, 2019 Parking Brake doesn't engage on the carrier after landing.On airbases functions properly: ( control indicator white lines go up ) On the carrier only when you turn as for emergency..Pull function does nothing.Is it the one you were talking about? If so it must be a bug. No. I've no problems with brakes on the carrier. This issue is to do with emergency brakes; and it's still an issue. I don't pretend this is high priory, but can we get some acknowledgement on this one? I actually think it used to work fine. :helpsmilie:
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