Mk 83 Retard bomb on the Harrier

[Kula66]

Given the latest craze of bombing bridges, I've noticed that Mk 82s don't seem to drop the span as reliably. The Mk 83s however seem to drop them every time; however, there doesn't seem to be a Mk 83 with a retard kit so I end up getting fragged fairly regularly - does one exist in RL??

[ZeroReady]

There's no high drag mk-83 that I'm aware of. I haven't dropped a bridge in a while, but what if you ripple 4 82's down the bridge? Honestly for a bridge I think you would use a GBU 16 anyway. If you're high and fast enough you should be able to throw a GBU-16 about 7 or 8 miles I believe. You would have to have some SEAD still though.

[joey45]

You're dropping them too low.

[Kula66]

You're dropping them too low.

 

Yes, indeed ... but higher I get hit by SAMs etc. Just wondering there was a retard version that would help, but if not, then its either a toss or try higher, 500' seems to be better.

 

I assume that DCS uses some damage point system for structures like bridges ... and a pair of Mk82s just isn't enough.

Edited November 4, 2018 by Kula66

[GoonerTC]

Try toss bombing, Set the bridge up as a target waypoint, wait till the 20-25 second count down pull up, press the trigger and watch those bad boys do the business

[Kula66]

Works a treat with the big GBUs ... I just think that in a high threat environment, a low fast lay down pass is more realistic. Here is the scenario if anyone fancies a go :)

 

Very basic, you just have to take out as many bridges as possible - marked as WP2 -WP8 - they get harder and you will need multiple trips.

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[ZeroReady]

Works a treat with the big GBUs ... I just think that in a high threat environment, a low fast lay down pass is more realistic. Here is the scenario if anyone fancies a go :)

 

Very basic, you just have to take out as many bridges as possible - marked as WP2 -WP8 - they get harder and you will need multiple trips.

 

In a high threat environment you would have a SEAD flight take out SAMs first.

[Kula66]

Indeed ... hence the SAMs in that scenario are SA-2/3 in limited numbers. Either you go low and fast or dodge a few SAMs first and then us LGBs while they're reloading. As you said earlier, you can CCRP lob an LGB from quite a few miles away and turn away while still marking the target - provided the clouds don't get in the way ;)

[Nealius]

Mk83s with BSU-85 retard kits do exist. They have been seen on Hornets in the 1991 Gulf War. I put up a request for them in the Hornet Wishlist, so hopefully we will get them in the future.

 

Against SA-2s you can pop up about 2nm from the target with about 30 degrees offset, 30 degrees nose up, start your pull-down at 3,000' AGL (cresting at about 4,500' AGL) with a 4G pull down to the target, 25 degree dive, drop slick Mk83s by 2,500' AGL, then get back on the deck. You'll probably get an SA-2 singer right when you pickle.

Edited November 5, 2018 by Nealius

[Bad_Karma-701]

Mk83s with BSU-85 retard kits do exist. They have been seen on Hornets in the 1991 Gulf War. I put up a request for them in the Hornet Wishlist, so hopefully we will get them in the future.

 

Against SA-2s you can pop up about 2nm from the target, 30 degrees nose up, start your pull-down at 3,000' AGL (cresting at about 4,500' AGL) with a 4G pull down to the target, 25 degree dive, drop slick Mk83s by 2,500' AGL, then get back on the deck. You'll probably get an SA-2 singer right when you pickle.

 

Sorry but MK83s wearing a BSU-85 prefers the term aerodynamically challenged, retarded is too explosive of a term.. :thumbup:

[davidp57]

Sorry but MK83s wearing a BSU-85 prefers the term aerodynamically challenged, retarded is too explosive of a term.. :thumbup:

 

 

LOL good one !

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