How to build an Hangar

[SuperKungFu]

So any chance we can get the new hanger? And to 666th birdy, it would be great if you added to your scenery mod so we don't have to replace objects anymore. I totally agree with Vekkinho statement how the hanger should not have flags or it could be universal.

[rattler]

Please put link to smaller Hanger, I also agree with Super, although he made me a U.S. flag and Combat Command insignia for the large hanger. Thanks again Super.

[Vekkinho]

Yup, just ask Birdy to include this hangar but W/O any national insignia (banners & flags) to his next Scenery Mod.

[SuperKungFu]

very nice, i was about to ask him too. Nice work vekkinho.

[Vekkinho]

It would be great to have Tomcatz' hangar as a part of the scenery too and not only as a static object.

 

I believe that only major ABs in the map should have hangar of such size, airbases supposed to host large transport planes and bombers.

 

There should be no more than 1 Hangar at each airbase. Having too many would result with large FPS impact on older rigs and wouldn't look reallistic.

[666th_birdy]

hangar in scenery

 

Putting new objects in the scenery is no problem. There are some things to consider however. :

 

- will the object size cause problems for taxiing AI (note wingspan)?

- Is the obect suitable for all situations (can any plane park in the hangar)

- how about IRL situation

- does the object look good (also in relation to other objects)

 

In case of Tomcatz' hangar you can see in the screenshot (were I put the hangar in the scenery file) that my first point allready comes up.

 

I agree that we don't have a dozen of these hangars on a small airbase, but such a hangar is seldom seen alone.

 

Another 'problem' is that some objects are only seen if other files beside the scenery file are modified. The first is structtable.sht (objects willl otherwise not be visible) but some addon objects also need modifications in the meinit.xml and grafics.cfg.

Since these files are frequently modified by other mods or by hand, it will undoubtedly cause for some obejcts to become unvisible again.

 

Keep up the modding though coz I love new things on airbases that make it look more alive

[Vekkinho]

Birdy, thanks for the heads up, but placing hangar on concrete parking areas is something we should avoid. This way we might overcome first mentioned problem.

 

I thought of placing hangars over those unsheltered dirt squares, almost every AB has one.

[666th_birdy]

Birdy, thanks for the heads up, but placing hangar on concrete parking areas is something we should avoid. This way we might overcome first mentioned problem.

 

I thought of placing hangars over those unsheltered dirt squares, almost every AB has one.

 

I agree but then we need the smaller version, not the one with the one with the side structures

[SuperKungFu]

I believe any planes can fit into the large hanger, i placed a tu-160 and a B-52, i believe those 2 are the largest in lock on and they both fit perfectly without the wings going into the walls. The big hanger, imho, should only be a few of them thoughout the lock on map. Only in those large AB.

 

In any case, i think you should get in contact with tomcatz and see if he would give you the smaller hanger without any flags or insignias. I believe the screens posted by viper shows the smaller hanger can be placed on those dry patches of area around the airbase like this?

It would be nice if the small hanger can go over that area. And there's not a lot of them at each AB so it would be perfect.

[Vekkinho]

Yeah that's what I thought, that little dirt patch is perfect for a hangar.

 

I see U use Hot summer mod and Teka's tree shaders! Looks perfect doesn't it?!

[SuperKungFu]

Yea i love those 2 mods together, now if someone comes up with a similar mod like hot summer mod for the other seasons, this would be freakin awesome.

[Vekkinho]

More snow during winter would be great, you can always switch between default winter texture and modded one to get more realism for making movies...

[Laud]

@birdy: I know it's a bit OT here but: For a possible new version of your scenery-mods: I noticed a lot of trees between the two runways on Sochi (maybe there are further ABs with that prob). IRL there are no such trees blocking the towers view over the airfield (maybe some imrovised open field bases for Frogs, Choppers or Harriers... ;) ). ATM it's the only reason why I uninstalled the mod. I hope you agree to that point.

[666th_birdy]

Don't worry about the flags and banners of the Hangar object; these are all additional textures that can be edited even when the hangar is in the scenery file.

 

Copy on the suggested postition. Construction in progress...... ;)

 

@jabog32; if more people feel that way about Sochi I'm happy to remove them.

[SuperKungFu]

hahhaha, very nice and creative too, you get a rep point for that.

[crazyeddie]

Sooooooo........anybody going to give us the download site for the smaller hangar then ????

 

(I like the trees in the middle of Sochi - mabey not realistic but it adds to the feel of the base, gives it some depth, I have put stuff in those trees to add even more to it - just love that airfield)

[Vekkinho]

Yeah, save the trees...:smilewink:

 

Build another tower (southern).

 

Having another additional control tower is a better idea. Each tower controls one runway.

 

How 'bout that?!

 

Perhaps not reallistic like IRL but realistic in LOFC world we live in.

[crazyeddie]

Just what I did, 2 towers, and loads of other stuff including the tall cranes, bigger hangars, Clinic, Radio Masts, various Blocks of flats in the town near to the bases etc etc. I simply changed loads of the objects in the Mission Builder around to give me about 30 new basic objects I could add to an air base, some of the towns look a bit odd in places doing it that way but it's the air bases I wanted to enhance.

 

Get rid of things like the blockouses, road blocks, small huts, small garages, oil derrick etc and change them for whatever you want to use, keep them to roughly the same sizes, its not perfect but it's one solution to the mission builder problem. I would post some dowloands but the changes I have made are huge, aircraft textures and loadouts etc - I have India and Pakistan in my game - again I simply changed the country details in the ME Files and created some new flags. Kutznetzov is now the new Indian Carrier flying the Mig 29's. Moscow becomes INS Delhi, it just needs some texture changes and a little imagination. Plus the stuff coming out from guys like Teka Teka.

 

It's a compromise - and it keeps me amused. I Love this sim, best there is.

[666th_birdy]

Just what I did, 2 towers, and loads of other stuff including the tall cranes, bigger hangars, Clinic, Radio Masts, various Blocks of flats in the town near to the bases etc etc. I simply changed loads of the objects in the Mission Builder around to give me about 30 new basic objects I could add to an air base, some of the towns look a bit odd in places doing it that way but it's the air bases I wanted to enhance.

 

Get rid of things like the blockouses, road blocks, small huts, small garages, oil derrick etc and change them for whatever you want to use, keep them to roughly the same sizes, its not perfect but it's one solution to the mission builder problem. I would post some dowloands but the changes I have made are huge, aircraft textures and loadouts etc - I have India and Pakistan in my game - again I simply changed the country details in the ME Files and created some new flags. Kutznetzov is now the new Indian Carrier flying the Mig 29's. Moscow becomes INS Delhi, it just needs some texture changes and a little imagination. Plus the stuff coming out from guys like Teka Teka.

 

It's a compromise - and it keeps me amused. I Love this sim, best there is.

 

You should try beta1.2 of my scenery file. There you'll see a lot of additional buildings in front of Sochi airfield.

 

tread: http://forum.lockon.ru/showthread.php?t=22695

[PythonOne]

So birdy, aside from maybe adding the yak-28 and some hangers, do you plan on adding anything else for beta1.3 of the scenery file?

[ViperVJG73]

Hangarmod here!

 

Sooooooo........anybody going to give us the download site for the smaller hangar then ????

 

(I like the trees in the middle of Sochi - mabey not realistic but it adds to the feel of the base, gives it some depth, I have put stuff in those trees to add even more to it - just love that airfield)

 

 

Here are the Hangarmod_from_TOMCATZ, with the small hangar type included!

 

Unpack the two file first and read the english language readme.

 

Then copy the packed mod man file to the MOD MAN "addon_fc" folder.

 

Have fun.

 

Download:finished!

PS. This download is temporary appointment to two days!

[666th_birdy]

So birdy, aside from maybe adding the yak-28 and some hangers, do you plan on adding anything else for beta1.3 of the scenery file?

 

Probably some fuelbarrels and ammo crates from Mbots' "Static Objects Pack 1".

If TheSystem finishes his tow-bar (among other things), I would like to incorperate them too.

 

I'm open for suggestions though, so please state special requests here: http://forum.lockon.ru/showthread.php?p=324914#post324914

[crazyeddie]

Many thanks for the hangars ViperVJG73, three of them no less. Time to rebuild a few fields.

 

Birdy, got your enhancement for Sochi, exellent stuff, as is everything else you do.

 

You and Teka Teka are out on your own in this area. Look forward to everything you both do, always fun to try things out and we learn so much from both of you.

[PythonOne]

could anyone post some screens of the 3 version of hangers. Also, do they have damage model now? (I'm talking about all points, not just a small area on the roof. If not, is it possible to add this feature when birdy comes out in the scenery mod?

[666th_birdy]

Note:

If you install the three Hangars by Tomcatz and are using my Scenery mod, some of those hangars might be placed on unexpected loactions.

 

This is caused by the fact that the ammo-dump and comm-center allready excist in my scenery files !