Details of v1.1 Flaming Cliffs *Updated- 25/11/04*

[Guest DeathAngelBR]

More countries??

 

More countries needed:

 

China, Vietnam, Etiopia - Su-27

Japan - F-15C

 

And by the way: where's the Python 4 for israeli F-16 and F-15?

[F l a n k e r]

Hi!

First of all I want to make my congratulations to the ED staff for the simulator and even for this useful forum.

Than, my opinion is that, while the simulator quality is excellent, the customization of its features is very limited. The point is: I would like to add some textures and not only modify the existing ones. I write this to ask for the possibility of adding textures in 1.1.

 

Thanks,

Flanker.

[D-Scythe]

ECM burn-through normally occurs at around 13 nm in v1.1 (last I checked) for both F-15 and Su-27 but in order to avoid radio interference with their own launched SARH missiles, fighters normally switch off their ECM earlier, at the moment of missile launch. So in an offensive duel situation e.g. F-15 vs Su-27 the ECM becomes less of a factor, ECM is more used defensively.

 

Whoa whoa! So what you're telling me is that in V1.1, TWS is basically useless beyond 13 nm because it has not been fixed? That if you lock onto a jamming target in TWS, you will still enter SST?

 

Then that basically makes the F-15C a MiG-29S, since multi-target engagement is impossible.

[GGTharos]

Apparently with what's going on right now ECM won't be used quite as much, or so I hear ... gone are the days when F-15's would fly with their ECM on permamently (thank the stars, man that cluttered up my VSD something fierce and always complicated things) since that's jsut an invitations to get a long range R-27 shot into your plane without warning (they can HoJ now) and the Russian craft will suffer the same problem, so jammers will be used much much more strategicall, especially since SNIFF mode will be considered in the future. Run around with ajmmer, be seen. Sucker.

 

Anyway, we'll see how it goes, yeah? I don't like the TWS bug either.

[D-Scythe]

Still a step backwards, imo, like how things were in V1.01. The AIM-120 basically becomes a SARH missile, since SST is the only way for a radar to provide designation for an ECM target, HoJ or no HoJ.

 

Because if it is HoJ, what if the bandity turns off his radar, as smart pilots would? If the AIM-120 isn't close enough, as it likely isn't, than it's on its own, possibly locking up a friendly fighter in the vicinity. So this sorta forces us to maintain lock, no?

 

This is a step backwards for the F-15. No more taking on four MiGs at once :lol:

[GGTharos]

As if we could before...they'd jsut keep their jammer on so you'd go STT on'em regardless of the mode you were in. It was ridiculous. I really hope this bug is fixed now.

[RedBear]

This looks good :wink: , shepki

 

My question is about the way it will be distributed. Is still by D/L or there will be another alternative?

:?:

[britgliderpilot]

This looks good :wink: , shepki

 

My question is about the way it will be distributed. Is still by D/L or there will be another alternative?

:?:

 

. . . . Mail order from Russia?

 

 

Seriously, you won't be able to go and buy a CD in the west unless a western publisher picks it up. This addon is about to be released, the legalities concerning western distribution are tricky, and the potential profit to be made isn't much.

 

You can assume that no western publisher will pick it up.

 

So no. Download is very likely to be the only way.

[RedBear]

This looks good :wink: , shepki

 

My question is about the way it will be distributed. Is still by D/L or there will be another alternative?

:?:

 

. . . . Mail order from Russia?

 

 

Seriously, you won't be able to go and buy a CD in the west unless a western publisher picks it up. This addon is about to be released, the legalities concerning western distribution are tricky, and the potential profit to be made isn't much.

 

You can assume that no western publisher will pick it up.

 

So no. Download is very likely to be the only way.

 

 

:( :( :( :( :(

 

Ahhh sh.... well thx for your replay d/l is the only option :( ...

 

lets see anyway thx

 

S!

 

S!

[Norman Stansfield]

Simple graphic thing, but very important in my opinion

 

Probably it is not a good place, but I am not sure how to make a new topic (cant find a button, am I too stupid or blind?). I read a lot about historic or less historic air wars and quite often, enemy detection became from spotting this small detail which is a canopy or metal parts glowing - reflected by sun. This effects works stronger from larger distances where reflected beams seem to be cumulated, most of games includes of course proper lighting model, but without this effect. (it is also useful during close dogfight when we seek an enemy plane "camouflaged" below by the terrain downthere). This short spark can help much in such a situation. The other thing is that lot of building's roofs have also the same tendency - from larger distance any town is never totally matte, there are strong, almost mirror effect reflections on some roofs.

I do not think it is hard-to-make effect for graphicians (and not consuming additional power) - the only game I've seen this small but strong glow was ... GTA vice city where similar glows were showing up on cars' windows while watching at proper angles against the sun. It was probably a simple masked additive glowing and very rapidly blinking "sprite" that appeared over the most shining/bright element of the car.

 

I hope it is not too detailed wish,

best wishes (and please move this post eventually to the new topic)

[Guest DeathAngelBR]

*ahem*

 

I'm still wondering:

 

High resolution skins for the Flankers?

More countries? China (Su-27), India (Su-30), Etiopia (Su-27), Vietnam (Su-27), Japan (F-15C)

Python 4 AAM for israeli F-16 and F-15?

[RedBear]

Re: Simple graphic thing, but very important in my opinion

 

Probably it is not a good place, but I am not sure how to make a new topic (cant find a button, am I too stupid or blind?). I read a lot about historic or less historic air wars and quite often, enemy detection became from spotting this small detail which is a canopy or metal parts glowing - reflected by sun. This effects works stronger from larger distances where reflected beams seem to be cumulated, most of games includes of course proper lighting model, but without this effect. (it is also useful during close dogfight when we seek an enemy plane "camouflaged" below by the terrain downthere). This short spark can help much in such a situation. The other thing is that lot of building's roofs have also the same tendency - from larger distance any town is never totally matte, there are strong, almost mirror effect reflections on some roofs.

I do not think it is hard-to-make effect for graphicians (and not consuming additional power) - the only game I've seen this small but strong glow was ... GTA vice city where similar glows were showing up on cars' windows while watching at proper angles against the sun. It was probably a simple masked additive glowing and very rapidly blinking "sprite" that appeared over the most shining/bright element of the car.

 

I hope it is not too detailed wish,

best wishes (and please move this post eventually to the new topic)

 

check your prived message !!!

[EscCtrl]

[

quote=.britgliderpilot][.quote=.RedBear].the potential profit to be made isn't much. You can assume

that no western publisher will pick it up. So No. download is very

likely to be the only way.[/.quote ]

 

You say the profit will be low. It might be worth creating a petition to see how many Western people are actually interested then seeing if whoever the Russian publisher is may send copies to the West. It could be worht a try.

 

How much is likely to cost in England if it is released? £40 or £20?

[RedBear]

[

quote=.britgliderpilot][.quote=.RedBear].the potential profit to be made isn't much. You can assume

that no western publisher will pick it up. So No. download is very

likely to be the only way.[/.quote ]

 

You say the profit will be low. It might be worth creating a petition to see how many Western people are actually interested then seeing if whoever the Russian publisher is may send copies to the West. It could be worht a try.

 

How much is likely to cost in England if it is released? £40 or £20?

 

 

yep!! :idea: i was thinking on that too... Maybe do this on ubi forum becase i think they have to support it or at least made things easy for us..

 

If they dont want to made cd on us/uk maybe they could imported from ED and sale them .. :?: :?: i dont kinow just thinking..

[Guest ruggbutt]

I think we and ED would be better served if UBI was left out of the equation completely.

[enigma6584]

I think we and ED would be better served if UBI was left out of the equation completely.

 

Spot on ruggbutt. UBI has dropped the ball on too many occasions IMHO.

[Dmut]

check a new movie "Su25T in Action" http://lockon.ru/vid/Su_25T_In_Action.wmv

 

it looks amazing! :)

 

 

edit:

 

ps: well, not so amazing... Su25t_In_Action_thumbnail.wmv is played well, but Su_25T_In_Action.wmv don't. MS MP9 says it's corrupted.

DLed twice, got binary the same files, both corrupted...

 

here is the link to working small-size movie - http://lockon.ru/vid/thumb/Su25t_In_Action_thumbnail.wmv

[JaBoG32_Tornado]

THX

nice vid :wink:

 

Please release 1.1 :D

[Alfa]

*ahem*

 

I'm still wondering:

 

High resolution skins for the Flankers?

More countries? China (Su-27), India (Su-30), Etiopia (Su-27), Vietnam (Su-27), Japan (F-15C)

Python 4 AAM for israeli F-16 and F-15?

 

Flanker skins: last I looked, there was only one high resolution(2048x2048) Flanker(Su-27) skin.

 

Countries: DeathAngelBR......the Lock-on region is in the Black Sea :wink: . India - and especially China, Vietnam and Japan are very much situated in East Asia, while Ethopia is in East Africa....how likely would you say it is to see Ethopian Su-27s flying around over the Crimean Peninsula? :lol:

 

Isreali missiles: No there are no Pythons for the Israelis.....only Cobras for the Russians and Ukrainians :P (sorry )

[F l a n k e r]

Hi JJ, probably the Flanker 2048 skin was mine, as Chizh wrote to me that ED changes only the engine’s colours. I hope in the future there will more hi-res textures for the Flankers.

If anyone wants it I have also modified the skin for the Su 30 and the Su 33.

[Witchking]

F l a n k e r !

 

hey dude!

 

yeah! I used ur skin to make a template and sent it to ED. Chizh was interrested... however it maybe better that u send ur own original template for better quality. :D

 

BTW,,,yeah man! we are all interested in high res skins for su 30 and 33.

maybe the 33 more than 30..since its flyable.

[F l a n k e r]

Finally we can communicate Aquarius! Sorry for the spaces between the letters… but the name “Flanker” was already used…

Congratulations for the patience in making a new template from the skin!

Yes, I send the template to Chizh and he write to me that only one were used. In spite of this is a great news!

I also ask to Chizh if developers were interested in the Su 30/33 templates. He don’t have send me an answer for the moment.

 

Regards.

[Alfa]

Hi Leonardo,

 

Good to see you here :D

 

Yes I think it is fair to say that most people would appreciate high res skins for the Su-27/30/33 :) .

[Dmut]

new movie has been fixed, please DL it again - http://lockon.ru/vid/Su_25T_In_Action.wmv

[Witchking]

Finally we can communicate Aquarius! Sorry for the spaces between the letters… but the name “Flanker” was already used…

Congratulations for the patience in making a new template from the skin!

Yes, I send the template to Chizh and he write to me that only one were used. In spite of this is a great news!

I also ask to Chizh if developers were interested in the Su 30/33 templates. He don’t have send me an answer for the moment.

 

Regards.

 

nice to finally hear from you flanker. :D

 

its always a joy when we know the flanker is being upgraded. :)

 

hopefully they accept ur 33 one also atleast so our flyables are better looking.

 

PS:: can u give me ur msn ? ;) to stay in touch.

 

cheers.