Strikeeagle345 Posted April 15, 2019 Posted April 15, 2019 I am debating between these two chips for my new build and need some advice from those in the know. I do plan on some overclocking as well. As you know, the 8700K is a 6 cores / 12 thread chip (hyper-threading enabled) and the 9700K is the new chip 8 cores / 8 threads (no hyper-threading). As it stands, (i could be wrong) the 9700K would be the better chip for DCS. It has better single core performance albeit, not by much. It also runs cooler due to the use of solder, not paste. Terrain engine optimization is inbound, with the notion that ED is working on the Vulkan API integration and the fact that it's 2 weeks™ away, which chip am I better off purchasing for the next several years of DCS's life? Will the 9700K be out performed by the 8700K once Vulkan is implemented? Will the 9700K still be the better chip? Strike USLANTCOM.com i7-9700K OC 5GHz| MSI MPG Z390 GAMING PRO CARBON | 32GB DDR4 3200 | GTX 3090 | Samsung SSD | HP Reverb G2 | VIRPIL Alpha | VIRPIL Blackhawk | HOTAS Warthog
some1 Posted April 15, 2019 Posted April 15, 2019 Will the 9700K be out performed by the 8700K once Vulkan is implemented? Will the 9700K still be the better chip? No one can answer that question, not even DCS developers. It's like asking "who will win the next olympics". Hardware: VPForce Rhino, FSSB R3 Ultra, Virpil WarBRD, Hotas Warthog, Winwing F15EX, Slaw Rudder, GVL224 Trio Throttle, Thrustmaster MFDs, Saitek Trim wheel, Trackir 5, Quest Pro
Strikeeagle345 Posted April 15, 2019 Author Posted April 15, 2019 No one can answer that question, not even DCS developers. It's like asking "who will win the next olympics". Mainly asking as an over head view since Vulkan will (should) utilize more threads. but I see your point. Just want to make the best decision for future proofing for DCS. Strike USLANTCOM.com i7-9700K OC 5GHz| MSI MPG Z390 GAMING PRO CARBON | 32GB DDR4 3200 | GTX 3090 | Samsung SSD | HP Reverb G2 | VIRPIL Alpha | VIRPIL Blackhawk | HOTAS Warthog
dawgie79 Posted April 15, 2019 Posted April 15, 2019 Save the money on the CPU and invest that in a faster/newer GPU. That would be my best bet anyways.
Gnadentod Posted April 15, 2019 Posted April 15, 2019 I think I remember hearing somewhere that Vulkans "efficiency sweetspot" is 8 Threads / for 8 cores - so the 9700K would just fit right in. I doubt the difference is that big in the end but I'm sure there is a small one.
Strikeeagle345 Posted April 15, 2019 Author Posted April 15, 2019 I think I remember hearing somewhere that Vulkans "efficiency sweetspot" is 8 Threads / for 8 cores - so the 9700K would just fit right in. I doubt the difference is that big in the end but I'm sure there is a small one. The difference probably not being much for the increased cost of the 9700K I take it. Strike USLANTCOM.com i7-9700K OC 5GHz| MSI MPG Z390 GAMING PRO CARBON | 32GB DDR4 3200 | GTX 3090 | Samsung SSD | HP Reverb G2 | VIRPIL Alpha | VIRPIL Blackhawk | HOTAS Warthog
dburne Posted April 15, 2019 Posted April 15, 2019 I would go 9700k. I went with 9900k and am very pleased with it. Don B EVGA Z390 Dark MB | i9 9900k CPU @ 5.1 GHz | Gigabyte 4090 OC | 64 GB Corsair Vengeance 3200 MHz CL16 | Corsair H150i Pro Cooler |Virpil CM3 Stick w/ Alpha Prime Grip 200mm ext| Virpil CM3 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Base w/ Alpha-L Grip| Point Control V2|Varjo Aero|
boedha68 Posted April 15, 2019 Posted April 15, 2019 I go for the 3700x. Blasting every Intel chip to heaven! :D Newest system: AMD 9800X3d, Kingsting 128 GBDDR5, MSI RTX 5090(ready for buying), Corsair 150 Pro, 3xSamsung 970 Pro, Logitech X-56 HOTAS, Pimax Crystal Light (Super is purchased) ASUS 1200 Watt. New system:I9-9900KS, Kingston 128 GB DDR4 3200Mhz, MSI RTX 4090, Corsair H150 Pro RGB, 2xSamsung 970 EVO 2Tb, 2xsamsung 970 EVO 1 TB, Scandisk m2 500 MB, 2 x Crucial 1 Tb, T16000M HOTAS, HP Reverb Professional 2, Corsair 750 Watt. Old system:I7-4770K(OC 4.5Ghz), Kingston 24 GB DDR3 1600 Mhz,MSI RTX 2080(OC 2070 Mhz), 2 * 500 GB SSD, 3,5 TB HDD, 55' Samsung 3d tv, Trackir 5, Logitech HD Cam, T16000M HOTAS. All DCS modules, maps and campaigns:pilotfly:
Harlikwin Posted April 15, 2019 Posted April 15, 2019 I'm happy with my 9700k. And realistically most programs don't really make good use of hyperthreading. And if they do a hyperthreaded core = ~20% of a real core anyway. So I'd go with 9700k (which I have :) ) New hotness: I7 9700k 4.8ghz, 32gb ddr4, 2080ti, :joystick: TM Warthog. TrackIR, HP Reverb (formermly CV1) Old-N-busted: i7 4720HQ ~3.5GHZ, +32GB DDR3 + Nvidia GTX980m (4GB VRAM) :joystick: TM Warthog. TrackIR, Rift CV1 (yes really).
Strikeeagle345 Posted April 15, 2019 Author Posted April 15, 2019 I'm happy with my 9700k. And realistically most programs don't really make good use of hyperthreading. And if they do a hyperthreaded core = ~20% of a real core anyway. So I'd go with 9700k (which I have :) ) Thank everyone.:thumbup: Strike USLANTCOM.com i7-9700K OC 5GHz| MSI MPG Z390 GAMING PRO CARBON | 32GB DDR4 3200 | GTX 3090 | Samsung SSD | HP Reverb G2 | VIRPIL Alpha | VIRPIL Blackhawk | HOTAS Warthog
Gladman Posted April 15, 2019 Posted April 15, 2019 I went 9900 but I do other things that need multi-thread. If not, I'd go 9700 i9 9900K @ 5.1Ghz - ASUS Maximus Hero XI - 32GB 4266 DDR4 RAM - ASUS RTX 2080Ti - 1 TB NVME - NZXT Kraken 62 Watercooling System - Thrustmaster Warthog Hotas (Virpil Base) - MFG Crosswind Pedals - Pimax 5K+ VFA-25 Fist Of The Fleet [sigpic]http://forums.eagle.ru/signaturepics/sigpic99190_2.gif[/sigpic] Virtual Carrier Strike Group 1 | Discord
etherbattx Posted April 15, 2019 Posted April 15, 2019 keep in mind threads only run when they are on a core... so even 1000 threads will only run 6 at a time on the 8700k
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