F-16

[BuzzU]

Well, with the Warthog we lucked out since it uses an F-16 stick. What we need now is an F-16 throttle to go with it. I wonder if TM can be talked into making one. The old Cougar will work if they put a Hall Sensor in it. They need to re-release it.

Edited May 20, 2019 by BuzzU

[RogueSqdn]

Still have mine, with Cubpilot's hall sensor mod.

 

I'd probably jump on a new one immediately, if for no other reason than I wouldn't have to mess with the Cougar Control Panel ever again (I have TUSBA R2, but calibrating the knobs on that SUCKS).

[BuzzU]

I wish I had kept my old Cougar.

[xoxen]

I wish I had kept my old Cougar.

 

So do I :cry:

[Donut]

How well will the Warthog throttle work in regards to being able to map all the F-16 HOTAS controls?

[PlainSight]

How well will the Warthog throttle work in regards to being able to map all the F-16 HOTAS controls?

 

 

You can map everything on it. Comms, speedbrake and dogfight/missile override (boat switch) go on the side accuratelly. Cursor slew is obvious.

China hat can be used for gain/uncage rotary function and collie hat up/down for radar antenna elevation.

Edited May 30, 2019 by PlainSight

[RogueSqdn]

It will work very well, particularly using the flaps and autopilot switches to control the F-16s two AP switches. You will still have a lack of analog axes though. You can use the friction slider for antenna elevation but will have to use buttons for the range knob.

 

When I use it in BMS I use buttons (the coolie hat) for both knobs because I don’t like taking my hand off the throttle to change elevation.

 

You could also use TARGET to create a virtual axis from two buttons if you wish. YMMV.

 

 

 

 

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[Terry Dactil]

Has anyone managed to modify the Cougar joystick by using load cells or strain gauges so it has very limited movement, just like the real thing?

[=Panther=]

Has anyone managed to modify the Cougar joystick by using load cells or strain gauges so it has very limited movement, just like the real thing?

 

Yes, FSSB R1 or R2 from RealSimulator

[Wicked.-]

There's a mountain of F-16 stick and throttle how to' s for the uninitiated for almost every joystick or HOTAS that is halfway good. It would be epic if TM released a new modernized TQS. I would pay a heavy penny for it.

[Terry Dactil]

Yes, FSSB R1 or R2 from RealSimulator

Thanks. That looks high quality and very well done, but the price is a bit eye-watering :(

There are very affordable load cells and amplifiers available now, so it might be possible to make your own DIY version.

[Sokol1_br]

Has anyone managed to modify the Cougar joystick by using load cells or strain gauges so it has very limited movement, just like the real thing?

 

Are a how to for DIY this, just don't remember where. :D

 

:doh: ;)

 

There: https://forums.eagle.ru/attachment.php?attachmentid=171735&d=1510008773

 

Other - Viperpit forum require loguin.

 

http://simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/3954684/Low_Cost_FSSB_Mod_for_Cougar

 

And option for this "surgery" in stick neck of the above link is 3D printed parts of Debolestis Shapeways.

https://www.shapeways.com/shops/debolestis

Edited June 2, 2019 by Sokol1_br

[Sierra99]

Still have mine, with Cubpilot's hall sensor mod.

 

I'd probably jump on a new one immediately, if for no other reason than I wouldn't have to mess with the Cougar Control Panel ever again (I have TUSBA R2, but calibrating the knobs on that SUCKS).

 

I'm curious how much was the Cubpilot Mod?

[RogueSqdn]

I preface this by saying I’m about 98% certain he’s not doing it anymore, and I had to search through my emails to find it (I got a .Mac account in 2005, still use the email address and I don’t delete a lot of stuff, just in cases like this when I need to search).

 

The cost looks to have been about $72 plus postage. I have never had a problem with it, it’s worked flawlessly.

 

 

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[Terry Dactil]

Sokol1 br

Thanks for those links. It has given me some good ideas.

These items - load cells or strain gauges are available for about $5 on eBay, so I guess it is time to start experimenting while waiting for the F-16 to arrive. :)

 

[Terry Dactil]

Well - So far, so good.

I have managed to mount the four strain gauges without making any changes to the existing components. This means I can easily go back to the original

condition if this does not work satisfactorily.

 

The next part of this project, the electronics, will be interesting.

The status of all the buttons on the handle is 3 bytes on an SPI bus which needs to be combined with the load values from the strain gauges and the whole lot sent off on a USB connection in the appropriate joystick format.

My brain hurts already!

[Sierra99]

Well - So far, so good.

I have managed to mount the four strain gauges without making any changes to the existing components. This means I can easily go back to the original

condition if this does not work satisfactorily.

 

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The next part of this project, the electronics, will be interesting.

The status of all the buttons on the handle is 3 bytes on an SPI bus which needs to be combined with the load values from the strain gauges and the whole lot sent off on a USB connection in the appropriate joystick format.

My brain hurts already!

 

Crimminy.

 

You guys need to get lives or girlfriends or jobs or something...:megalol:

 

Seriously, it looks great. I am curious to see how it's gonna hold up and work out. I have couple of original Cougar's I might look at something like this with.

[TomOnSteam]

I'm hoping for an F-16 throttle from Thrustmaster, because the Slew is just awful on the Warthog throttle. A re-release of the Cougar but with hal sensors and usb would be amazing.