Sr. Posted January 4, 2022 Posted January 4, 2022 2 hours ago, speed-of-heat said: hides the label behind the cockpit frame/aircraft Must be missing something... I see nothing change. Are you referring to the blue aircraft labels that are toggled off/on under misc or gameplay? In fact, since reinstalling, I see very little, if any change with anything other than the atmospheric haze. Ryzen 7 5800X3D | 64GB DDR4 3600| MSI RTX 4080 16GB Ventus 3X OC | Samsung 970 Evo 2TB NVME | Quest 3 | Logitech X-56 throttle | VKB NXT Premium | Win 11 "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." --Arthur C Clark
lefuneste01 Posted January 5, 2022 Author Posted January 5, 2022 7 hours ago, Sr. said: Must be missing something... I see nothing change. Are you referring to the blue aircraft labels that are toggled off/on under misc or gameplay? In fact, since reinstalling, I see very little, if any change with anything other than the atmospheric haze. See the video in first post at 0:28. Did you use the v12 without changing anything in it or mixing older files (like d3dx.ini) ? Mixing files from different version is the best way to break mod features. Intel i5 10400K @4.8 GHz, 3080ti, 32 GB RAM, Varjo Areo. I spend my time making 3dmigoto VR mods for BoS and DCS instead of flying, see https://www.patreon.com/lefuneste
zulubravo Posted January 5, 2022 Posted January 5, 2022 Compose.fx failed to compile. What am I doing wrong. I Can't start dcs after installing mod? 1-I made backup of my shaders 2- copy pasted (DCS World VR shaders mod by Keijo "Kegetys" Ruotsalainen)shaders to my dcs shaders 3-I copy pasted mod of Keijo "Kegetys" Ruotsalainen shader mod (from 3DmigotoDCS_VR_12.0 .zip) 4-I copy pasted 3DmigotoDCS_VR_12.0 bin folder to DCS bin folder Step 3 and 4 doesn't mater because error shows after step 2. I tried to apply step 3 and 4 after error but I get the same error after applying. Help!
speed-of-heat Posted January 5, 2022 Posted January 5, 2022 13 minutes ago, zulubravo said: Compose.fx failed to compile. What am I doing wrong. I Can't start dcs after installing mod? 1-I made backup of my shaders 2- copy pasted (DCS World VR shaders mod by Keijo "Kegetys" Ruotsalainen)shaders to my dcs shaders 3-I copy pasted mod of Keijo "Kegetys" Ruotsalainen shader mod (from 3DmigotoDCS_VR_12.0 .zip) 4-I copy pasted 3DmigotoDCS_VR_12.0 bin folder to DCS bin folder Step 3 and 4 doesn't mater because error shows after step 2. I tried to apply step 3 and 4 after error but I get the same error after applying. Help! looks like you have the wrong version of Kegetys shaders use this one 1 SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware AMD 9800X3D, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO YOUTUBE CHANNEL: @speed-of-heat
Cplhardcore Posted January 5, 2022 Posted January 5, 2022 Installed this mod via OVGME, Menu pops up in game but there's no visual change? I'm running standalone with no root mods, Rift S
lefuneste01 Posted January 5, 2022 Author Posted January 5, 2022 45 minutes ago, Cplhardcore said: Installed this mod via OVGME, Menu pops up in game but there's no visual change? I'm running standalone with no root mods, Rift S Did you activate options using menu ? What is not working ? Color change, sharpen, icon masking, shadow softening, performance improvement, haze, reflection, copy/paste of radio messages,... ? All options are off by default, you have to set them using menu. Are your graphic settings as what is displayed in troubleshooting guide in first post ? Intel i5 10400K @4.8 GHz, 3080ti, 32 GB RAM, Varjo Areo. I spend my time making 3dmigoto VR mods for BoS and DCS instead of flying, see https://www.patreon.com/lefuneste
Cplhardcore Posted January 5, 2022 Posted January 5, 2022 41 minutes ago, lefuneste01 said: Did you activate options using menu ? What is not working ? Color change, sharpen, icon masking, shadow softening, performance improvement, haze, reflection, copy/paste of radio messages,... ? All options are off by default, you have to set them using menu. Are your graphic settings as what is displayed in troubleshooting guide in first post ? Graphics are identical, Turned them on via the menu, And nothing at all works, im using the v12 version,
lefuneste01 Posted January 5, 2022 Author Posted January 5, 2022 3 hours ago, Cplhardcore said: Graphics are identical, Turned them on via the menu, And nothing at all works, im using the v12 version, Did you use troubleshooting guide ? Are you using other mods ? At first, did you try to set mul factor to zero for cockpit ? (Shift +F1 to allow color change, then setup color mul zero). "nothing is working" is a bit unclear.... Intel i5 10400K @4.8 GHz, 3080ti, 32 GB RAM, Varjo Areo. I spend my time making 3dmigoto VR mods for BoS and DCS instead of flying, see https://www.patreon.com/lefuneste
Cplhardcore Posted January 5, 2022 Posted January 5, 2022 1 hour ago, lefuneste01 said: Did you use troubleshooting guide ? Are you using other mods ? At first, did you try to set mul factor to zero for cockpit ? (Shift +F1 to allow color change, then setup color mul zero). "nothing is working" is a bit unclear.... Yes, No, Yes, And what i mean by nothing is working i mean none of the options change anything, the menu pops up but none of the options do anything
lefuneste01 Posted January 5, 2022 Author Posted January 5, 2022 3 minutes ago, Cplhardcore said: Yes, No, Yes, And what i mean by nothing is working i mean none of the options change anything, the menu pops up but none of the options do anything Can you put here your options.lua file and a track or a scenario to reproduce your test config ? Intel i5 10400K @4.8 GHz, 3080ti, 32 GB RAM, Varjo Areo. I spend my time making 3dmigoto VR mods for BoS and DCS instead of flying, see https://www.patreon.com/lefuneste
edmuss Posted January 5, 2022 Posted January 5, 2022 (edited) I had the same issue with the options not making any difference to anything, running along side the Clearwater+IC mod installed with ovgme. Not sure what I've done wrong though! That said, I'm mainly only interested in the CBU performance increase at the moment. With regards to the HMD.hlsl options for kegetys mod that 3Dmigito needs to be left alone, if I alter those will it just stop that bit from working and revert to the kegetys version? edit: installed 3Dmigoto on it's own and got the menu up and working, making visible adjustments, but alt+F12 just reverts all of the changes back instead of saving them; can the settings be applied manually? edit2: retesting it with Clearwater+IC and it won't make any visible changes or save still. Edited January 6, 2022 by edmuss Ryzen7 7800X3D / RTX3080ti / 64GB DDR5 4800 / Varjo Aero / Leap Motion / Kinect Headtracking TM 28" Warthog Deltasim Hotas / DIY Pendular Rudders / DIY Cyclic Maglock Trimmer / DIY Abris / TM TX 599 evo wheel / TM T3PA pro / DIY 7+1+Sequential Shifter / DIY Handbrake / Cobra Clubman Seat Shoehorned into a 43" x 43" cupboard.
lefuneste01 Posted January 6, 2022 Author Posted January 6, 2022 15 hours ago, edmuss said: edit: installed 3Dmigoto on it's own and got the menu up and working, making visible adjustments, but alt+F12 just reverts all of the changes back instead of saving them; can the settings be applied manually? edit2: retesting it with Clearwater+IC and it won't make any visible changes or save still. Is your DCS installed in program files ? Dis you apply the patch for clear water shader mod ? And, as I wrote, I did not test the IC version of this mod with my mod. It is likelly it won't work. It is also likelly that the patch for clear water shader mod may brake the IC. Intel i5 10400K @4.8 GHz, 3080ti, 32 GB RAM, Varjo Areo. I spend my time making 3dmigoto VR mods for BoS and DCS instead of flying, see https://www.patreon.com/lefuneste
edmuss Posted January 6, 2022 Posted January 6, 2022 (edited) 42 minutes ago, lefuneste01 said: Is your DCS installed in program files ? Dis you apply the patch for clear water shader mod ? And, as I wrote, I did not test the IC version of this mod with my mod. It is likelly it won't work. It is also likelly that the patch for clear water shader mod may brake the IC. DCS is in C:\Program Files. I'm still a bit new around the edges with mods in DCS so bear with me if I've done something stupid! Initially I imported 3Dmigoto zip file into ovgme and applied it on it's own and it worked ok, made changes via the menus with expected visual results although it wouldn't save the changes with alt+F12. I then applied the clearwater+IC zip file first and then 3Dmigoto zip file second (are you meant to process the kegetys upgrade folder seperately?) and whilst I can change the values it doesn't appear to change anything visually (unlike above), it also wouldn't save the settings. I don't actually need the IC as I don't play MP currently so perhaps I should switch to clearwater + 3Dmigoto only? Ideally I want to use clearwater + 3Dmigoto to be able to sharpen the hud & mfds and improve the CBU performance. Edited January 6, 2022 by edmuss Ryzen7 7800X3D / RTX3080ti / 64GB DDR5 4800 / Varjo Aero / Leap Motion / Kinect Headtracking TM 28" Warthog Deltasim Hotas / DIY Pendular Rudders / DIY Cyclic Maglock Trimmer / DIY Abris / TM TX 599 evo wheel / TM T3PA pro / DIY 7+1+Sequential Shifter / DIY Handbrake / Cobra Clubman Seat Shoehorned into a 43" x 43" cupboard.
speed-of-heat Posted January 6, 2022 Posted January 6, 2022 @edmuss as @lefuneste01said, Program files protects itself from code making changes to files within program files, its a security/safety measure. try installing DCS in C:\Games and you should be golden SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware AMD 9800X3D, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO YOUTUBE CHANNEL: @speed-of-heat
edmuss Posted January 6, 2022 Posted January 6, 2022 (edited) Aha, that sort of makes sense; wasn't aware of that limitation. Now is there any way of moving the installation folder or do I have to redownload the 150ish gig again? edit: Good stuff Edited January 6, 2022 by edmuss Ryzen7 7800X3D / RTX3080ti / 64GB DDR5 4800 / Varjo Aero / Leap Motion / Kinect Headtracking TM 28" Warthog Deltasim Hotas / DIY Pendular Rudders / DIY Cyclic Maglock Trimmer / DIY Abris / TM TX 599 evo wheel / TM T3PA pro / DIY 7+1+Sequential Shifter / DIY Handbrake / Cobra Clubman Seat Shoehorned into a 43" x 43" cupboard.
lefuneste01 Posted January 6, 2022 Author Posted January 6, 2022 3 hours ago, edmuss said: I then applied the clearwater+IC zip file first and then 3Dmigoto zip file second (are you meant to process the kegetys upgrade folder seperately?) and whilst I can change the values it doesn't appear to change anything visually (unlike above), it also wouldn't save the settings. The installation instructions were unclear for the shader mod. I updated the first post with the following lines: Install Speed-Of-Heat "Clear Water" version of Kegetys shader mod from here . Do not use the "IC Pass" version. So, as you install the IC version, what you should do is: Do a full repair of DCS (see troubleshooting guide) Install "Clear Water" version (not the "IC Pass") It should work. 20 hours ago, Cplhardcore said: Yes, No, Yes, And what i mean by nothing is working i mean none of the options change anything, the menu pops up but none of the options do anything @edmuss has the same issue than you because he installed the IC shader mod... Did you do a full repair as written in the troubleshooting guide ? 1 Intel i5 10400K @4.8 GHz, 3080ti, 32 GB RAM, Varjo Areo. I spend my time making 3dmigoto VR mods for BoS and DCS instead of flying, see https://www.patreon.com/lefuneste
edmuss Posted January 6, 2022 Posted January 6, 2022 (edited) @lefuneste01 perfect thanks, I'll give it a test tonight edit: DCS folder moved to root of C:\ and installation repaired. 3Dmigoto now works as intended and saves the settings, got to get it working with the shader mod next. Edited January 6, 2022 by edmuss Ryzen7 7800X3D / RTX3080ti / 64GB DDR5 4800 / Varjo Aero / Leap Motion / Kinect Headtracking TM 28" Warthog Deltasim Hotas / DIY Pendular Rudders / DIY Cyclic Maglock Trimmer / DIY Abris / TM TX 599 evo wheel / TM T3PA pro / DIY 7+1+Sequential Shifter / DIY Handbrake / Cobra Clubman Seat Shoehorned into a 43" x 43" cupboard.
edmuss Posted January 7, 2022 Posted January 7, 2022 @lefuneste01 Testing with SOH Clearwater I can get parts of 3Dmigoto to work, glass reflections can be turned down and changes applied ok but the HUD and MFD sharpening doesn't appear to change. Any thoughts? Ryzen7 7800X3D / RTX3080ti / 64GB DDR5 4800 / Varjo Aero / Leap Motion / Kinect Headtracking TM 28" Warthog Deltasim Hotas / DIY Pendular Rudders / DIY Cyclic Maglock Trimmer / DIY Abris / TM TX 599 evo wheel / TM T3PA pro / DIY 7+1+Sequential Shifter / DIY Handbrake / Cobra Clubman Seat Shoehorned into a 43" x 43" cupboard.
lefuneste01 Posted January 7, 2022 Author Posted January 7, 2022 4 hours ago, edmuss said: @lefuneste01 Testing with SOH Clearwater I can get parts of 3Dmigoto to work, glass reflections can be turned down and changes applied ok but the HUD and MFD sharpening doesn't appear to change. Any thoughts? Did you check your graphics settings ? Can you post a track ? Intel i5 10400K @4.8 GHz, 3080ti, 32 GB RAM, Varjo Areo. I spend my time making 3dmigoto VR mods for BoS and DCS instead of flying, see https://www.patreon.com/lefuneste
edmuss Posted January 7, 2022 Posted January 7, 2022 8 minutes ago, lefuneste01 said: Did you check your graphics settings ? Can you post a track ? Not too sure which graphics settings I would need to check? Settings are as they were when 3Dmigoto works installed on it's own. MSAA is off, all of the HMD.hlsl settings are default as written by the 3Dmigoto zip file. What would you need shown on the track, load cockpit and attempt to adjust the settings? Would it record the adjustment of the shaders, I thought the track was just a timeline of events that can be loaded rather than an AV recording? Ryzen7 7800X3D / RTX3080ti / 64GB DDR5 4800 / Varjo Aero / Leap Motion / Kinect Headtracking TM 28" Warthog Deltasim Hotas / DIY Pendular Rudders / DIY Cyclic Maglock Trimmer / DIY Abris / TM TX 599 evo wheel / TM T3PA pro / DIY 7+1+Sequential Shifter / DIY Handbrake / Cobra Clubman Seat Shoehorned into a 43" x 43" cupboard.
Sr. Posted January 7, 2022 Posted January 7, 2022 6 hours ago, edmuss said: @lefuneste01 Testing with SOH Clearwater I can get parts of 3Dmigoto to work, glass reflections can be turned down and changes applied ok but the HUD and MFD sharpening doesn't appear to change. Any thoughts? Same. I 've tried several reinstalls, and running with no additional shader mod. Several things just aren't visibly obvious, like cockpit color, sharpening have no effect. I tried the shadow softening and I get some scattered, black noise horizontal bar across the screen. When I try to adjust outside color, it's like hitting brightness or contrast instead. Ryzen 7 5800X3D | 64GB DDR4 3600| MSI RTX 4080 16GB Ventus 3X OC | Samsung 970 Evo 2TB NVME | Quest 3 | Logitech X-56 throttle | VKB NXT Premium | Win 11 "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." --Arthur C Clark
lefuneste01 Posted January 7, 2022 Author Posted January 7, 2022 2 hours ago, edmuss said: Not too sure which graphics settings I would need to check? Settings are as they were when 3Dmigoto works installed on it's own. MSAA is off, all of the HMD.hlsl settings are default as written by the 3Dmigoto zip file. What would you need shown on the track, load cockpit and attempt to adjust the settings? Would it record the adjustment of the shaders, I thought the track was just a timeline of events that can be loaded rather than an AV recording? The track is to allowing me to easilly reproduce the problem in the same context than you. These HUD and MFD change are relying on plane used, but sometime DCS is doing strange things: I discovered that the UH1 is not using same shader if it's raining or not, or the AV8B is not using the same shader for glass for some missions. Intel i5 10400K @4.8 GHz, 3080ti, 32 GB RAM, Varjo Areo. I spend my time making 3dmigoto VR mods for BoS and DCS instead of flying, see https://www.patreon.com/lefuneste
edmuss Posted January 7, 2022 Posted January 7, 2022 I'm only in the A10C II at the moment, the hud and mfd sharpening worked when it was stand alone without the clearwater mod but that unfortunately leaves a good portion of frametime on the table I'll try to record a track later on. Ryzen7 7800X3D / RTX3080ti / 64GB DDR5 4800 / Varjo Aero / Leap Motion / Kinect Headtracking TM 28" Warthog Deltasim Hotas / DIY Pendular Rudders / DIY Cyclic Maglock Trimmer / DIY Abris / TM TX 599 evo wheel / TM T3PA pro / DIY 7+1+Sequential Shifter / DIY Handbrake / Cobra Clubman Seat Shoehorned into a 43" x 43" cupboard.
lefuneste01 Posted January 7, 2022 Author Posted January 7, 2022 5 minutes ago, edmuss said: I'm only in the A10C II at the moment, the hud and mfd sharpening worked when it was stand alone without the clearwater mod but that unfortunately leaves a good portion of frametime on the table I'll try to record a track later on. That's strange because I validated my mod with the A10CII, and all was working. Did you compare your graphics settings with the picture provided in troubleshooting guide ? Can you post also your options.lua here ? Intel i5 10400K @4.8 GHz, 3080ti, 32 GB RAM, Varjo Areo. I spend my time making 3dmigoto VR mods for BoS and DCS instead of flying, see https://www.patreon.com/lefuneste
lefuneste01 Posted January 7, 2022 Author Posted January 7, 2022 3 hours ago, Sr. said: Same. I 've tried several reinstalls, and running with no additional shader mod. Several things just aren't visibly obvious, like cockpit color, sharpening have no effect. I tried the shadow softening and I get some scattered, black noise horizontal bar across the screen. When I try to adjust outside color, it's like hitting brightness or contrast instead. Can you edit d3dx.ini and modify the line "hunting=0" by "hunting=2" launch the game, choose instant action / Su25T / Free flight Once in cockpit, pause the game then press NUMPAD 0 => green lines will appear at top and bottom of 2D screen Press F8 : the game will freeze a while, then a green line will shortly appears at left bottom A folder FrameAnalysis-2022-01-*-* should have been created Go in it, you should have only log.txt and ShaderUsage.txt => post them here. Intel i5 10400K @4.8 GHz, 3080ti, 32 GB RAM, Varjo Areo. I spend my time making 3dmigoto VR mods for BoS and DCS instead of flying, see https://www.patreon.com/lefuneste
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