agathorn Posted June 14, 2019 Posted June 14, 2019 Hey all, I'm curious what are the more popular places builders around here use to source switches, buttons, rotary encoders, etc for panels? Intel i7-4770k @ 4.4ghz, 32gb ram, GTX 1080ti, Oculus Rift S Advanced apologies if my post contains typos or missing letters. Many of my posts are typed on a laptop with an old keyboard that has a personality all its own.
Lobinjaevel Posted June 14, 2019 Posted June 14, 2019 If you're in the US then you have lots of good options, I use ebay alot since I live in Sweden. There are a lot och cheap alternatives from China there, it usually suits my needs :)
jimiC Posted June 14, 2019 Posted June 14, 2019 Digikey online Jaycar in australia Sent from my SM-G960F using Tapatalk
agathorn Posted June 14, 2019 Author Posted June 14, 2019 Digikey. Wow that's some serious information overload. I love it. Intel i7-4770k @ 4.4ghz, 32gb ram, GTX 1080ti, Oculus Rift S Advanced apologies if my post contains typos or missing letters. Many of my posts are typed on a laptop with an old keyboard that has a personality all its own.
Warhog Posted June 14, 2019 Posted June 14, 2019 eBay... Chinese parts are very inexpensive. You will be amazed at the savings and the quality is definitely acceptable. With the hundreds of components I have purchased, only once did I get a batch of bad MAX 487 chips. When reported, the store sent me a new batch which worked just fine. Just do some searching on eBay... loads of whatever you'll need.:thumbup: Regards John W aka WarHog. My Cockpit Build Pictures... My Arduino Sketches ... https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1-Dc0Wd9C5l3uY-cPj1iQD3iAEHY6EuHg?usp=sharing WIN 10 Pro, i8-8700k @ 5.0ghz, ASUS Maximus x Code, 16GB Corsair Dominator Platinum Ram, AIO Water Cooler, M.2 512GB NVMe, 500gb SSD, EVGA GTX 1080 ti (11gb), Sony 65” 4K Display VPC MongoosT-50, TM Warthog Throttle, TRK IR 5.0, Slaw Viper Pedals
agathorn Posted June 14, 2019 Author Posted June 14, 2019 eBay... Chinese parts are very inexpensive. You will be amazed at the savings and the quality is definitely acceptable. With the hundreds of components I have purchased, only once did I get a batch of bad MAX 487 chips. When reported, the store sent me a new batch which worked just fine. Just do some searching on eBay... loads of whatever you'll need.:thumbup: Problem I have with the stuff on eBay is you don't really know exactly what you are getting, so it isn't possible to look up data sheets. I've seen several items even where they claim it is one thing but when you look up the sheets on that thing it clearly isn't what they are selling. Since I am working up cad files its helpful to have all the dimension data. Intel i7-4770k @ 4.4ghz, 32gb ram, GTX 1080ti, Oculus Rift S Advanced apologies if my post contains typos or missing letters. Many of my posts are typed on a laptop with an old keyboard that has a personality all its own.
Warhog Posted June 15, 2019 Posted June 15, 2019 I have never had that problem. I have always been able to find data sheets when I thought a data sheet was needed. As to cad files, I have drawn over 400 AutoCAD files ranging from gauge faces, panels and knobs to PCBS for smd components working to an accuracy of .0005”. When it comes to electronic components, these Chinese, Japanese, Thai and South Korean vendors don't screw around. They can't afford to as eBay will drop them if they get complaints. Besides, where do you think the American, British, Canadian vendors get most of their parts from... Asia. :smilewink: Arduino Mega in North America... $35.00. Chinese clone... $11.00. Functionality... same Lighted toggle switch .... $7-8.00 in North America. From China $2.40. Both products are from same manufacturer. You can see more Chinese parts on my Flickr page. Link is in my signature. But each to his own. If one can afford parts from Digikey and Mouser (and their shipping costs) and can't wait a few weeks for deliveries from across the world, then I say... go for it. I just want to make sure new cockpit builders know there are alternatives to the over priced parts available from your local suppliers.:pilotfly: Regards John W aka WarHog. My Cockpit Build Pictures... My Arduino Sketches ... https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1-Dc0Wd9C5l3uY-cPj1iQD3iAEHY6EuHg?usp=sharing WIN 10 Pro, i8-8700k @ 5.0ghz, ASUS Maximus x Code, 16GB Corsair Dominator Platinum Ram, AIO Water Cooler, M.2 512GB NVMe, 500gb SSD, EVGA GTX 1080 ti (11gb), Sony 65” 4K Display VPC MongoosT-50, TM Warthog Throttle, TRK IR 5.0, Slaw Viper Pedals
JG14_Smil Posted June 15, 2019 Posted June 15, 2019 http://https://www.allelectronics.com/ Great surplus items store.
agathorn Posted June 15, 2019 Author Posted June 15, 2019 (edited) I have never had that problem. I have always been able to find data sheets when I thought a data sheet was needed. As to cad files, I have drawn over 400 AutoCAD files ranging from gauge faces, panels and knobs to PCBS for smd components working to an accuracy of .0005”. When it comes to electronic components, these Chinese, Japanese, Thai and South Korean vendors don't screw around. They can't afford to as eBay will drop them if they get complaints. Besides, where do you think the American, British, Canadian vendors get most of their parts from... Asia. :smilewink: Arduino Mega in North America... $35.00. Chinese clone... $11.00. Functionality... same Lighted toggle switch .... $7-8.00 in North America. From China $2.40. Both products are from same manufacturer. You can see more Chinese parts on my Flickr page. Link is in my signature. But each to his own. If one can afford parts from Digikey and Mouser (and their shipping costs) and can't wait a few weeks for deliveries from across the world, then I say... go for it. I just want to make sure new cockpit builders know there are alternatives to the over priced parts available from your local suppliers.:pilotfly: Oh you misunderstand me. I don't have a problem with parts from China. Its more the sellers that I have a problem with on eBay is most of the listings I found through searches were just trash and didn't really have the detailed information I would want, like the data sheets do on an electronics store. If I can find good sellers with good listings then that would be a different story. I'll check out the link in your sig. So I guess what I am saying is that as a reference for builders of places to buy from, it would be nice to link to specific good eBay stores rather than just say "eBay". Edited June 15, 2019 by agathorn Intel i7-4770k @ 4.4ghz, 32gb ram, GTX 1080ti, Oculus Rift S Advanced apologies if my post contains typos or missing letters. Many of my posts are typed on a laptop with an old keyboard that has a personality all its own.
agathorn Posted June 15, 2019 Author Posted June 15, 2019 Here is a perfect example of what I mean: https://www.ebay.com/itm/5pcs-Rotary-encoder-with-switch-EC11-Audio-digital-potentiometer-20mm-handle/311425031956?hash=item488260df14:g:GnMAAOSwv-NWUrCs Supposedly an EC11 Rotary Encoder. Ok let's find the datasheet. Which specific EC11 is it? I pull up the entire EC11 series on a normal electronics website and try to find this specific one. Looks like a vertical mount, ok. Listing says "Pulse Number: 20" so presumably that means it has 20 pulses. But wait, there isn't a single EC11 with 20 pulses according to the official data. There are ones with 18 pulses, but not 20. So now I'm left wondering if it really is an EC11 at all. Is it just a mistake in the listing, or is it in fact not an EC11 but being marketed as such? Who knows, but since I don't know how can I model it up? If it was an official one I could even just download the provided CAD from the manufacturer. So yeah if anyone knows of specific eBay stores that sell components with proper details then I'd love those links. But eBay in general searching seems pretty crappy for me so far. Intel i7-4770k @ 4.4ghz, 32gb ram, GTX 1080ti, Oculus Rift S Advanced apologies if my post contains typos or missing letters. Many of my posts are typed on a laptop with an old keyboard that has a personality all its own.
Biggus Posted June 15, 2019 Posted June 15, 2019 I buy a lot of my stuff through Aliexpress if I can wait a month or so for it to arrive. Descriptions usually include enough information to find a datasheet. I often use Arrow and RS Electronics for things that are either urgent or are being used for things that I believe warrant it. Tactile switches, for example. For some things, I'm fine with using Aliexpress switches. $2 for a bag of 50. If the switches are going somewhere that will take me significant time or effort to replace should they go bad, I spend the same money on a single Omron switch from Arrow. It might not really make a difference but the prices are so low for the effort expended that the peace of mind is worth it.
agathorn Posted June 15, 2019 Author Posted June 15, 2019 I buy a lot of my stuff through Aliexpress if I can wait a month or so for it to arrive. Descriptions usually include enough information to find a datasheet. I often use Arrow and RS Electronics for things that are either urgent or are being used for things that I believe warrant it. Tactile switches, for example. For some things, I'm fine with using Aliexpress switches. $2 for a bag of 50. If the switches are going somewhere that will take me significant time or effort to replace should they go bad, I spend the same money on a single Omron switch from Arrow. It might not really make a difference but the prices are so low for the effort expended that the peace of mind is worth it. Do you have any particular sellers on AliExpress that you use frequently? I guess part of this too is just ordering some components from various places and seeing if you are happy with them or not. Like you say things like push buttons the feel is often very important, and you won't know if you like it or not until you try it. Intel i7-4770k @ 4.4ghz, 32gb ram, GTX 1080ti, Oculus Rift S Advanced apologies if my post contains typos or missing letters. Many of my posts are typed on a laptop with an old keyboard that has a personality all its own.
Sokol1_br Posted June 15, 2019 Posted June 15, 2019 No cheap, but "realistic". :) https://www.peerlesselectronics.com/product/switch/t5-0006-switch https://www.peerlesselectronics.com/product/switch?limit=80&vendor_name=22
Warhog Posted June 16, 2019 Posted June 16, 2019 Here are a few of my favorites. I purchased all of my toggle switches from mobilev below. https://www.ebay.com/str/mobileveletronicsshop?LH_BIN=1 Arduino boards from: https://www.ebay.com/str/txhangelectronic Displays for MFCDs and CDU: https://www.ebay.com/str/chinatobby2011 Basic components, resistors, caps, diodes etc from https://www.ebay.com/str/satisfyelectronics Regards John W aka WarHog. My Cockpit Build Pictures... My Arduino Sketches ... https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1-Dc0Wd9C5l3uY-cPj1iQD3iAEHY6EuHg?usp=sharing WIN 10 Pro, i8-8700k @ 5.0ghz, ASUS Maximus x Code, 16GB Corsair Dominator Platinum Ram, AIO Water Cooler, M.2 512GB NVMe, 500gb SSD, EVGA GTX 1080 ti (11gb), Sony 65” 4K Display VPC MongoosT-50, TM Warthog Throttle, TRK IR 5.0, Slaw Viper Pedals
Biggus Posted June 16, 2019 Posted June 16, 2019 (edited) Do you have any particular sellers on AliExpress that you use frequently? I guess part of this too is just ordering some components from various places and seeing if you are happy with them or not. Like you say things like push buttons the feel is often very important, and you won't know if you like it or not until you try it. Before I even click on a listing, I look at the number of sales and the seller's rating. After that, I check the reviews. I've ordered about sixty individual items so far this year and I have only had two fail to arrive. My only real issue is that I keep adding cheap components to my cart and then discovering that I've gone over my budget. Buying on Aliexpress is almost a hobby within itself. Edited June 16, 2019 by Biggus Removed a word
Warhog Posted June 17, 2019 Posted June 17, 2019 My only real issue is that I keep adding cheap components to my cart and then discovering that I've gone over my budget. Buying on Aliexpress is almost a hobby within itself. Funny how that always seem to happen :music_whistling: Also, when you need three, buy five. ...its always good to have spares. :thumbup: Regards John W aka WarHog. My Cockpit Build Pictures... My Arduino Sketches ... https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1-Dc0Wd9C5l3uY-cPj1iQD3iAEHY6EuHg?usp=sharing WIN 10 Pro, i8-8700k @ 5.0ghz, ASUS Maximus x Code, 16GB Corsair Dominator Platinum Ram, AIO Water Cooler, M.2 512GB NVMe, 500gb SSD, EVGA GTX 1080 ti (11gb), Sony 65” 4K Display VPC MongoosT-50, TM Warthog Throttle, TRK IR 5.0, Slaw Viper Pedals
Rick50 Posted June 17, 2019 Posted June 17, 2019 I have never had that problem. I have always been able to find data sheets when I thought a data sheet was needed. As to cad files, I have drawn over 400 AutoCAD files ranging from gauge faces, panels and knobs to PCBS for smd components working to an accuracy of .0005”. When it comes to electronic components, these Chinese, Japanese, Thai and South Korean vendors don't screw around. They can't afford to as eBay will drop them if they get complaints. Besides, where do you think the American, British, Canadian vendors get most of their parts from... Asia. :smilewink: Arduino Mega in North America... $35.00. Chinese clone... $11.00. Functionality... same Lighted toggle switch .... $7-8.00 in North America. From China $2.40. Both products are from same manufacturer. You can see more Chinese parts on my Flickr page. Link is in my signature. But each to his own. If one can afford parts from Digikey and Mouser (and their shipping costs) and can't wait a few weeks for deliveries from across the world, then I say... go for it. I just want to make sure new cockpit builders know there are alternatives to the over priced parts available from your local suppliers.:pilotfly: Here are a few of my favorites. I purchased all of my toggle switches from mobilev below. https://www.ebay.com/str/mobileveletronicsshop?LH_BIN=1 Arduino boards from: https://www.ebay.com/str/txhangelectronic Displays for MFCDs and CDU: https://www.ebay.com/str/chinatobby2011 Basic components, resistors, caps, diodes etc from https://www.ebay.com/str/satisfyelectronics Thank you for the tips! This hobby is expensive enough as it is, nice to save a few bucks here and there!! :thumbup:
lesthegrngo Posted June 26, 2019 Posted June 26, 2019 Guys, there are plenty of sellers for the square grey button caps for 12mm x 12mm 'tactile' switches,but I can't find any that sell flat round grey button caps, can anyone point me to somewhere? Thanks Les
BlacleyCole Posted June 28, 2019 Posted June 28, 2019 I get most of my electrical stuff from all electronics.com iirc BlackeyCole 20years usaf XP-11. Dcs 2.5OB Acer predator laptop/ i7 7720, 2.4ghz, 32 gb ddr4 ram, 500gb ssd,1tb hdd,nvidia 1080 8gb vram New FlightSim Blog at https://blackeysblog.wordpress.com. Go visit it and leave me feedback and or comments so I can make it better. A new post every Friday.
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