Tippis Posted June 30, 2019 Posted June 30, 2019 Some people will always want to cheat, by using TrackIR and just turn their real head 15 degrees and see their six. Or use a zoom to see only the FOV of the HUD and use that for spotting or identifying targets etc. LMAO. :megalol: ❧ ❧ Inside you are two wolves. One cannot land; the other shoots friendlies. You are a Goon. ❧ ❧
Baldrick33 Posted June 30, 2019 Posted June 30, 2019 Now that the HP Reverb VR Headset is out, you can actually read the instruments and small text in the cockpit, so I'd be leaning towards that if you can afford a top tier graphics card. The immersion in VR is just on another level compared to even the largest of TV's. The sense of depth and scale, is not achievable on a flat screen. The aircraft are huge (realistically) and all of the little buttons stick out, it feels like you can touch them. And also having 1:1 head tracking is much more than natural than what trackIR does. Also having a 90hz fast refresh screen in VR is very much beneficial for moving a head around. The smoothness is great. (I wouldn't recommend any other VR headsets though, because the resolution and screen door effect make DCS very hard to play. Either get the HP Reverb, or wait until other headsets of equal pixel density arrive in the near future. Even the pimax 5k/8k is not good enough.)Having had a DK2, CV1, Odyssey+ Pimax 5K+ before my Reverb I agree 100%. The HP Reverb is a real game changer for flight & race sims. Forget the FOV, the clarity is what I have been yearning since the first ever wow moment of VR five years or so ago. I can't comment how good the Rift S & Index are in comparison. I occasionally dabbled with DCS with my CV1 but can see me putting in a lot more time in now I have the Reverb, it is that good. AMD 5800X3D · MSI 4080 · Asus ROG Strix B550 Gaming · HP Reverb Pro · 1Tb M.2 NVMe, 32Gb Corsair Vengence 3600MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · VIRPIL T-50CM3 Base, Alpha Prime R. VIRPIL VPC Rotor TCS Base. JetSeat
Keks Posted July 1, 2019 Posted July 1, 2019 Some people will always want to cheat, by using TrackIR and just turn their real head 15 degrees and see their six. Or use a zoom to see only the FOV of the HUD and use that for spotting or identifying targets etc. And especially perform ground attacks as that way. Please don't report me to my local police for using a stick that has more hats than the real one. God damn dude it's a video game. Who is cheating? The dude clicking switches with his mouse or the one with the home pit. Sealy this is the stupidest thing I have read today. You do have to realize that we as gamers have to compensate for not sitting in the real deal.
webweaver40 Posted July 2, 2019 Posted July 2, 2019 Again with this thread. There are those who think high resolution monitor is king. There are those who think VR is king. Who's to say one is better than the other? YOU! When it comes to monitors or VR, it's my way or the highway. The monitor people will never understand the allure of VR, so why belabor the point? It's not something you can explain with words. And every VR user decided to move away from monitors for a reason.A little condescending you're being there. I have most of the vr headsets, including hp reverb. I still prefer trackir and my 55" low latency 4k screen. And yes I understand the difference as I have experienced all of the options. Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk
WindyTX Posted July 2, 2019 Posted July 2, 2019 While the title makes me smile with the implication that VR was better before, I do wonder if actually having done some flying makes a difference. All the pilots that I demo DCS too are always amazed (one hadn't been in an F18c for 25 years ) and that was with CV1. I would say about half went on to buy a Rift and the required computer. It is a small sample size of 3 out of 6 but a couple owned planes so ..... At the end of the day it probably comes down to the question "is your DCS priority gaming or flying" If you are a flying enthusiast then you will accept all the VR limitations because it puts you in the cockpit (DK2 was good enough to stop me using my 3 screens). If your priority is the best gaming experience then a 4k screen and TIR is the way to go. Sent from my GM1915 using Tapatalk I7 3930 4.2GHz ( Hyperthreading Off), GTX1080, 16 GB ddr3 Hotas Warthog Saiteck Combat Pedals HTC Vive, Oculus CV1. GTX 1080 Has its uses
Tippis Posted July 2, 2019 Posted July 2, 2019 By the way, I bought in to all the Valve Index anti-hype, mostly put out by Fakebook Rift fans I think, that the Valve Index was going to be a flop, so I didn't bother to get online to order mine until a couple days after the initial order date, and then to my dismay, finding out the Index sold out in the first 30 minutes. So now I'm having to wait until September as my expected order/ship date. Not really happy about that :furious:, however, for the sake of peaceful domestic relations (see above), it was probable for the best .... If it's any consolation, both review copies and actual deliveries have been suffering from hardware issues — slowly dying and becoming fussy over time, or just being DOA. So waiting for a second batch and some more insight into these issues is probably a good thing regardless. ❧ ❧ Inside you are two wolves. One cannot land; the other shoots friendlies. You are a Goon. ❧ ❧
NineGzuz Posted July 2, 2019 Posted July 2, 2019 Best thing about VR is not having to press the re-center button over and over like you do with trackIR
jross194 Posted July 3, 2019 Posted July 3, 2019 Ok, I'm bored waiting for a download, so I'll take the bait... A) Circa 1987, Strike Eagle (or something like that), wire-frame graphics, one button joystick. A first B) Circa 1998, Falcon 4.0 (and all its later iterations), buggy mess, dynamic campaign, texture-mapped graphics, TrackIR (at some point), nicer monitors over time C) VR A = Immersive Fighter Pilot experience B = A * 2 C = B * 2 i6700k 4.4mhz, 32Gb, nVidia 1080, Odyssey+, CH Products, Derek Speare Designs button box, Bass shaker w/SimShaker For Aviators
hansangb Posted July 3, 2019 Posted July 3, 2019 A little condescending you're being there. I have most of the vr headsets, including hp reverb. I still prefer trackir and my 55" low latency 4k screen. And yes I understand the difference as I have experienced all of the options. Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk Like I said, you do what makes you happy, I'll do what makes me happy and no one loses. I just don't get the ad nauseum debate about which is better. Whatever makes you happier is better. As for the VR statement, I stand by it. How do you explain the experience of VR in words? hsb HW Spec in Spoiler --- i7-10700K Direct-To-Die/OC'ed to 5.1GHz, MSI Z490 MB, 32GB DDR4 3200MHz, EVGA 2080 Ti FTW3, NVMe+SSD, Win 10 x64 Pro, MFG, Warthog, TM MFDs, Komodo Huey set, Rverbe G1
Goblin Posted July 5, 2019 Posted July 5, 2019 Like I said, you do what makes you happy ^ This How hard can it be to understand this simple fact? People are different. I loved flightsims back in the 80’s. Sim viewing evolved to PoV hats and that was great! Then padlock views were invented and really boosted situational awereness. The virtual cockpit became a thing and you could scroll around using a mouse, which was awesome. Then Naturalpoint made the TrackIR and it blew me away! Now I have VR, and it’s the next evolutionary step...for me. VR isn’t perfect, but it’s better than all earlier view systems, IMO. If anybody don’t agree and think pre-VR views were better, that’s perfectly ok with me. I sure won’t lose any sleep over it. To each their own.
Recommended Posts