Ginsu80 Posted June 25, 2019 Posted June 25, 2019 I seem to be missing something when conducting carrier take offs. I have been practicing using the Case 1 recover mission, I'll trap, taxi to the cat, set my take off trim for my weight, set to half flaps, and take the cat shot. But, the hornet will pitch up so hard I am almost full down on the stick. I see videos of other launches and they look great, smooth, just like the real thing. Am I missing a step? I tried it hands off and the hornet did a hands off loop before stalling out. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
boedha68 Posted June 25, 2019 Posted June 25, 2019 I seem to be missing something when conducting carrier take offs. I have been practicing using the Case 1 recover mission, I'll trap, taxi to the cat, set my take off trim for my weight, set to half flaps, and take the cat shot. But, the hornet will pitch up so hard I am almost full down on the stick. I see videos of other launches and they look great, smooth, just like the real thing. Am I missing a step? I tried it hands off and the hornet did a hands off loop before stalling out. full flaps, but that's on my side. :D Newest system: AMD 9800X3d, Kingsting 128 GBDDR5, MSI RTX 5090(ready for buying), Corsair 150 Pro, 3xSamsung 970 Pro, Logitech X-56 HOTAS, Pimax Crystal Light (Super is purchased) ASUS 1200 Watt. New system:I9-9900KS, Kingston 128 GB DDR4 3200Mhz, MSI RTX 4090, Corsair H150 Pro RGB, 2xSamsung 970 EVO 2Tb, 2xsamsung 970 EVO 1 TB, Scandisk m2 500 MB, 2 x Crucial 1 Tb, T16000M HOTAS, HP Reverb Professional 2, Corsair 750 Watt. Old system:I7-4770K(OC 4.5Ghz), Kingston 24 GB DDR3 1600 Mhz,MSI RTX 2080(OC 2070 Mhz), 2 * 500 GB SSD, 3,5 TB HDD, 55' Samsung 3d tv, Trackir 5, Logitech HD Cam, T16000M HOTAS. All DCS modules, maps and campaigns:pilotfly:
dawgie79 Posted June 25, 2019 Posted June 25, 2019 I seem to be missing something when conducting carrier take offs. I have been practicing using the Case 1 recover mission, I'll trap, taxi to the cat, set my take off trim for my weight, set to half flaps, and take the cat shot. But, the hornet will pitch up so hard I am almost full down on the stick. I see videos of other launches and they look great, smooth, just like the real thing. Am I missing a step? I tried it hands off and the hornet did a hands off loop before stalling out. On the deck after the landing, first put flaps to AUTO, then back to FULL. Pitch up effect wil be gone then.
noisy_lightning Posted June 25, 2019 Posted June 25, 2019 It's all down to the flaps as others have said. Pretty sure it's a bug myself as there is no way this would be a "design feature" in the real jet but despite many reports of this happening in the forums its been marked as not a bug. Sent from my ONEPLUS A3003 using Tapatalk
Ginsu80 Posted June 25, 2019 Author Posted June 25, 2019 So flaps full or half? I thought it was half. I'll try raising the flaps then lowering before taking off. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Harker Posted June 25, 2019 Posted June 25, 2019 For a cat shot, it's Half flaps. You're also supposed to retract gear immediately after takeoff and set flaps to AUTO once you achieve a positive climb rate, AFAIK, not wait for them to go to AUTO by themselves once you hit 250 knots. The vCVW-17 is looking for Hornet and Tomcat pilots and RIOs. Join the vCVW-17 Discord. F/A-18C, F-15E, AV-8B, F-16C, JF-17, A-10C/CII, M-2000C, F-14, AH-64D, BS2, UH-1H, P-51D, Sptifire, FC3 - i9-13900K, 64GB @6400MHz RAM, 4090 Strix OC, Samsung 990 Pro
Strikeeagle345 Posted June 25, 2019 Posted June 25, 2019 full flaps, but that's on my side. :D Legacy's don't use full flaps on the cat shot. Once you leave the deck and have a positive rate, bring the gear and flaps up to Auto. Strike USLANTCOM.com i7-9700K OC 5GHz| MSI MPG Z390 GAMING PRO CARBON | 32GB DDR4 3200 | GTX 3090 | Samsung SSD | HP Reverb G2 | VIRPIL Alpha | VIRPIL Blackhawk | HOTAS Warthog
Ginsu80 Posted June 25, 2019 Author Posted June 25, 2019 So here is how it goes. Land, all good. Taxi to cat, set trim 16 degrees for under 44k, flaps to half launch bar down. Get set in the cat, launch bar up, power to mil and hands off the stick. I simulate the towel rack. Take the stroke and as soon as the wheels leave the deck the nose pitches up, past 8.1 alpha and keeps coming up. If my hand stays off the plane will loop. If I nose down with the stick I can keep it level but I have a hard time maintaining the correct altitude while doing a clearing turn. When I go flaps auto, because I'm forcing the nose down, the FCS takes over and the nose dives. It's a mess. But when I watch peoples videos of carrier take offs it looks smooth. If I can't figure it out I'll try to post a track with my control inputs when I get home. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
dmkellerman Posted June 25, 2019 Posted June 25, 2019 Are you pressing the take-off trim button prior to launch?
Ginsu80 Posted June 25, 2019 Author Posted June 25, 2019 I'm not, just setting trim to the appropriate weight 16 for under 44k. Take off trim just zeros out the Stabs to 12 I thought. Should that make a difference? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Deano87 Posted June 25, 2019 Posted June 25, 2019 Cycle flaps to auto and back to half between trap and cat. Proud owner of: PointCTRL VR : Finger Trackers for VR -- Real Simulator : FSSB R3L Force Sensing Stick. -- Deltasim : Force Sensor WH Slew Upgrade -- Mach3Ti Ring : Real Flown Mach 3 SR-71 Titanium, made into an amazing ring. My Fathers Aviation Memoirs: 50 Years of Flying Fun - From Hunter to Spitfire and back again.
Strikeeagle345 Posted June 25, 2019 Posted June 25, 2019 I'm not, just setting trim to the appropriate weight 16 for under 44k. Take off trim just zeros out the Stabs to 12 I thought. Should that make a difference? You need to press the T/O Trim button. It resets the whole jet for T/O. Also, cycle flaps from full, to Auto, then to Half for takeoff. Strike USLANTCOM.com i7-9700K OC 5GHz| MSI MPG Z390 GAMING PRO CARBON | 32GB DDR4 3200 | GTX 3090 | Samsung SSD | HP Reverb G2 | VIRPIL Alpha | VIRPIL Blackhawk | HOTAS Warthog
Ginsu80 Posted June 26, 2019 Author Posted June 26, 2019 So I found the issue. While doing the Case 1 recovery instant mission, on landing I have a total weight of about 30k or less. Taking off with that weight, with trim set at 16 degrees is whats causing the plane to balloon. Refueling solved the problem, take off weight of 38k was perfect. Or refueling reset the games logic and the takeoff was normal because of that. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
majapahit Posted June 26, 2019 Posted June 26, 2019 So I found the issue. While doing the Case 1 recovery instant mission, on landing I have a total weight of about 30k or less. Taking off with that weight, with trim set at 16 degrees is whats causing the plane to balloon. Refueling solved the problem, take off weight of 38k was perfect. Or refueling reset the games logic and the takeoff was normal because of that. When light keep trim at 12? | VR goggles | Autopilot panel | Headtracker | TM HOTAS | G920 HOTAS | MS FFB 2 | Throttle Quadrants | 8600K | GTX 1080 | 64GB RAM| Win 10 x64 | Voicerecognition | 50" UHD TV monitor | 40" 1080p TV monitor | 2x 24" 1080p side monitors | 24" 1080p touchscreen |
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