Force Feedback Joystick Coming soon

[WindBorn]

On 9/17/2019 at 7:31 PM, FoxHoundcn said:

 

We are stepping up preparations

Any updates on the website?

[RealDCSpilot]

I think the Gauss FFB base will never be available outside of China...

[E69_Frajo]

Anybody knows how to write Gauss in Chinese characters? Just to check the web...

[WindBorn]

On 7/25/2021 at 1:47 AM, E69_Frajo said:

Anybody knows how to write Gauss in Chinese characters? Just to check the web...

well it worked found some random stuff on the chinese version of youtube https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1S7411f7sh/

[cordite]

On 5/25/2021 at 12:47 AM, RealDCSpilot said:

I think the Gauss FFB base will never be available outside of China...

Perhaps, but if so it shouldn’t have anything to do with a patent. (I know you didn’t say it did)

https://patents.google.com/patent/US5742278A/en

[cordite]

I know it’s slightly OT, but no one? 
 

I thought it was due to a patent troll too, but it seems that was more about rumble effects, and that didn’t really stop 3rd parties from using them. 
 

It makes more sense that M$ held the FF joystick patent, and it’s probably the usual “just in demand by a small but vocal minority, too small a market.”

Edited August 28, 2021 by cordite
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[propeler]

Hey guys. Powerfull FFB joystick is already there. And it is opensource so everybody able to repeate it. Here is exomple of implementations of it by several sim lowers 

one:

 

two:

 

three:

 

[cordite]

Not sure about everyone. This looks a bit advanced for someone who’s not mechanically inclined.

[E69_Frajo]

On 8/28/2021 at 5:11 AM, cordite said:

Perhaps, but if so it shouldn’t have anything to do with a patent. (I know you didn’t say it did)

https://patents.google.com/patent/US5742278A/en

I do not really understand all the legal slang. Does it means that patent is now expired, so MS cannot take you to Court on a patent related issue?

[cordite]

I’m not sure they would’ve anyway. But the long time belief is that a patent troll was the reason that Logitech and M$ stopped making FF joysticks, yet that doesn’t seem to be the case.

[AggressorBLUE]

On 8/28/2021 at 3:00 PM, cordite said:

Not sure about everyone. This looks a bit advanced for someone who’s not mechanically inclined.

 

To me it's not even the mechanical aspect that's the issue.  That thread has lots of great input there, and the assembly looks straight forward enough.  It's basically "but this stuff / have a metal shop make you these bits / 3D print these other bits".  Based on the documentation /posts/responses in the @propeler thread, that's pretty well figured out.

 

The tricky part seems to be the electronics and/or finding documentation on how to assemble the electronics in a straightforward way.  My head is spinning trying to figure out how to wire everything up, and what parts I'd need for the custom board or how I'd use an ODrive instead.

[cordite]

I went off the deep end, and purchased the Brunner.  YOLO

[RealDCSpilot]

Damn, the Gauss FFB base is really a thing, but only in China: https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1E7411o7bs
And it supports a lot of grips and sims already. :(

[RealDCSpilot]

More google translate investigations show that it also doesn't seem to be available in China, there was a Taobao shop planned but canceled. However, from what i see in the video it's the perfect FFB base with a lot of options for compatible grips. Like a Fanatec version of a FFB base. And the GaussCLS software does look really straight forward with a lot of tuning options for damping and oscillation behaviour... So sad!

[QuiGon]

12 hours ago, cordite said:

I went off the deep end, and purchased the Brunner.  YOLO

 

Does it work well with DCS?

[Lynchsl62]

1 hour ago, QuiGon said:

 

Does it work well with DCS?

 

It works very well with the Chuls Arduino workaround, with the caveat, only for the warbirds, Mig-15 and the F-14. For the other hydraulic actuated and/or electro-mechanical FBW then the only FFB is the movement of the stick to trimming input, e.g. in the F-86 the stick actually moves as the aircraft trim is adjusted.

 

Heartblur clearly implemented the FFB for the F-14 module and it is good, but TBH I mainly fly the Warbirds/Korea War jets and the early cold war jets.

 

No idea about Helo's as apart from the pre-ordered Hind I don't have any and waiting for the Hind to mature before investing time in learning it, i.e. I am too lazy