moving SOI from 1 DDI to another...

[fitness88]

Is there a way to move SOI from 1 DDI to another without being in NAV mode only?

 

 

Thank you.

[Arthipex]

I'm not sure if I understand correctly, but you should be able to do so by pressing the Sensor Control Switch in the direction of the DDI you want to be SOI. I've done it that way whilst being in A/A or A/G mode.

[Darcwaynard]

Soi should be selectable in Nav and A/G with SCS switch. In A/A SCS selects ACM modes.

 

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[Ziptie]

Is there a way to move SOI from 1 DDI to another without being in NAV mode only?

 

 

Thank you.

 

Yes.

 

SCS (Sensor Control Select):

 

Forward selects HUD.

Left selects left DDI.

Right selects right DDI.

Aft selects AMPCD.

 

You can achieve those commands in any mode (NAV/AA/AG).

 

When you are in AA ACM mode, SCS now commands different functionality.

 

When you have the FLIR (Litening Pod) enabled on either DDI or AMPCD, there are also different functionalities available (ATRK/PTRK) which are achieved by pressing SCS in the direction of the screen in which the FLIR is being displayed.

 

Cheers,

 

Don

[fitness88]

Firstly thank you all for the feedback!

It seems HSI on the MPCD cannot have SOI. Left DDI can have SOI for HSI / SA / radar.

To move from Left to Right DDI for HSI the command is down SCS not right but it is right if the SA or radar page is showing on the right DDI.

The SCS direction for SOI movement changes depending on what's showing on the DDI...is this a bug?

Also I get myself into more confusion when I accidently enable auto acquisition or ACM but that I'm working on.

Thanks again.

[Darcwaynard]

Have you double checked your keybindongs for the SCS switch? It should be working as daarseth describes. Flew earlier today and all is good.

 

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[Ziptie]

Firstly thank you all for the feedback!

It seems HSI on the MPCD cannot have SOI. Left DDI can have SOI for HSI / SA / radar.

To move from Left to Right DDI for HSI the command is down SCS not right but it is right if the SA or radar page is showing on the right DDI.

The SCS direction for SOI movement changes depending on what's showing on the DDI...is this a bug?

Also I get myself into more confusion when I accidently enable auto acquisition or ACM but that I'm working on.

Thanks again.

 

This might be a helpful thread for you in regards to the AACQ (and trouble you mentioned).

 

https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=243674&highlight=Exiting+AACQ

 

Specifically post 21 could prove fruitful without sifting through numerous posts, if that isn’t your cup of tea:

 

https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=3961122&postcount=21

 

With post #25 being an addendum to the material.

 

 

 

Cheers,

 

Don

Edited September 27, 2019 by Ziptie

[Rudel_chw]

This might be a helpful thread for you in regards to the AACQ (and trouble you mentioned).

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Thanks a lot .. if you didnt point it out, I would never had seen that useful post :) .. will use it to improve my Hornet’s kneeboard notes.

[fitness88]

Have you double checked your keybindongs for the SCS switch? It should be working as daarseth describes. Flew earlier today and all is good.

 

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I'm in the process of doing that now...will post back, thanks!

Edited September 28, 2019 by fitness88

[fitness88]

This might be a helpful thread for you in regards to the AACQ (and trouble you mentioned).

 

https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=243674&highlight=Exiting+AACQ

 

Specifically post 21 could prove fruitful without sifting through numerous posts, if that isn’t your cup of tea:

 

https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=3961122&postcount=21

 

With post #25 being an addendum to the material.

 

 

 

Cheers,

 

Don

 

 

 

Great info #21...I'll check out the entire thread later, thanks

[Ziptie]

I'm in the process of doing that now...will post back, thanks!

 

Again, let us know if that worked for you -as it can not only be a solution for you but for others who might have an issue in the future. 5 binds to assign (FWD/AFT/LEFT/RIGHT/DEPRESS) The last not to be confused with TDC Depress, but SCS depress.

 

Great info #21...I'll check out the entire thread later, thanks

 

Happy to help direct people to learning experiences, even if I am unable to assist individually.

 

 

Cheers,

 

Don

[fitness88]

Again, let us know if that worked for you -as it can not only be a solution for you but for others who might have an issue in the future. 5 binds to assign (FWD/AFT/LEFT/RIGHT/DEPRESS) The last not to be confused with TDC Depress, but SCS depress.

 

 

 

Happy to help direct people to learning experiences, even if I am unable to assist individually.

 

 

Cheers,

 

Don

 

 

After lots of reading and getting a better understanding of how a forward press with the SCS when in ACM puts you into Boresight (BST), aft for Vertical (VACQ), and left for Wide Angle (WACQ), this changes what the HOTAS button do and also a little re-mapping helped to clean up duplicate mapped commands. So I would have to say it was my lack of understanding how the different layers of sensors/weapons all work together.

Tomorrow I will work some more at getting comfortable with moving SOI around and using the ACM mode with its layers. I was used too used to the F-15's weapon/ACM mode system as presented in FC3.

Thanks!

[Ziptie]

After lots of reading and getting a better understanding of how a forward press with the SCS when in ACM puts you into Boresight (BST), aft for Vertical (VACQ), and left for Wide Angle (WACQ), this changes what the HOTAS button do and also a little re-mapping helped to clean up duplicate mapped commands. So I would have to say it was my lack of understanding how the different layers of sensors/weapons all work together.

Tomorrow I will work some more at getting comfortable with moving SOI around and using the ACM mode with its layers. I was used too used to the F-15's weapon/ACM mode system as presented in FC3.

Thanks!

 

Glad to hear the curve is going the correct way for you sir! Great aircraft with loads of systems and specifics to learn and then master - with many many more incoming. Thanks for updating your success and will no doubt be able to help others by sharing.

 

 

Cheers,

 

Don

[Stubbies2003]

Firstly thank you all for the feedback!

It seems HSI on the MPCD cannot have SOI. Left DDI can have SOI for HSI / SA / radar.

To move from Left to Right DDI for HSI the command is down SCS not right but it is right if the SA or radar page is showing on the right DDI.

The SCS direction for SOI movement changes depending on what's showing on the DDI...is this a bug?

 

 

I think it would be a bug if you could SoI to the HSI display in the first place. Remember what SoI stands for. Sensor of Interest. HSI isn't a sensor but a display of data from another sensor. It would be like trying to SoI to the EW page. There isn't anything to control there thus it wouldn't make sense to be able to SoI to it.

[Harker]

I think it would be a bug if you could SoI to the HSI display in the first place. Remember what SoI stands for. Sensor of Interest. HSI isn't a sensor but a display of data from another sensor. It would be like trying to SoI to the EW page. There isn't anything to control there thus it wouldn't make sense to be able to SoI to it.

It's more of assigning TDC priority than actually making a page SOI. In the F-16, you can make the HSI "SOI" and it allows you to select waypoints, markpoints, generate markpoints etc. Same for the TAD in the A-10C.

You're right of course, neither of these pages are actually sensors, so saying SOI is technically incorrect, but people tend to use it as an umbrella term.

Edited September 29, 2019 by Harker

[Harker]

The HSI can be assigned TDC priority, AFAIK. It's just not implemented yet. SCS Aft is also supposed to toggle between the AMPCD displaying the HSI and the SA page, but that too is not implemented yet.

[fitness88]

I take it the last few posts are referring to the map on the MPCD not being able to be SOI...the SOI can be moved to the right and left DDI when HSI is being referenced as well as the SA page on the MPCD.

Edited September 29, 2019 by fitness88

[Ziptie]

I take it the last few posts are referring to the map on the MPCD not being able to be SOI...the SOI can be moved to the right and left DDI when HSI is being referenced as well as the SA page on the MPCD.

 

Correct. Hence why the SA page is always the one displayed on the AMPCD for me.

 

 

Cheers,

 

Don

[fitness88]

Correct. Hence why the SA page is always the one displayed on the AMPCD for me.

 

 

Cheers,

 

Don

 

 

 

Also the SA page does not display properly on the DDIs, the very bottom is cut-off preventing some of the info from being displayed...my issue is I like having the map displayed so I accept the compromise.

[Ziptie]

Also the SA page does not display properly on the DDIs, the very bottom is cut-off preventing some of the info from being displayed...my issue is I like having the map displayed so I accept the compromise.

 

Never noticed any cutoff on the right DDI when displaying the SA page - but it is extremely rare for me to display it anywhere but the AMPCD, so might be why I never noticed it. I will take a look when I get back to home base and see for myself what that impact is.

 

Of course the left DDI with the ADV- always being displayed is an annoyance on display data for nearly anything but the stores (for me personally at least).

 

 

Cheers,

 

Don

[Stubbies2003]

It's more of assigning TDC priority than actually making a page SOI. In the F-16, you can make the HSI "SOI" and it allows you to select waypoints, markpoints, generate markpoints etc. Same for the TAD in the A-10C.

 

 

Hrm I don't recall there being a HSI page in the F-16. Perhaps you were thinking of the HSD page?

 

 

You're right of course, neither of these pages are actually sensors, so saying SOI is technically incorrect, but people tend to use it as an umbrella term.

 

 

Yup. Good point and fair enough.

[Harker]

Hrm I don't recall there being a HSI page in the F-16. Perhaps you were thinking of the HSD page?

Yep, I meant HSD indeed. That's what happens when you type quickly.

[Ziptie]

You're right of course, neither of these pages are actually sensors, so saying SOI is technically incorrect, but people tend to use it as an umbrella term.

 

Indeed. I justify it to myself by Sensor Of Interest or Screen Of Interest (in regards to the HSI).

 

 

Cheers,

 

 

Don

[fitness88]

Never noticed any cutoff on the right DDI when displaying the SA page - but it is extremely rare for me to display it anywhere but the AMPCD, so might be why I never noticed it. I will take a look when I get back to home base and see for myself what that impact is.

 

Of course the left DDI with the ADV- always being displayed is an annoyance on display data for nearly anything but the stores (for me personally at least).

 

 

Cheers,

 

Don

 

 

 

Just double checked...it's only the left DDI that gets cut off at the bottom of the screen.

I use the map on the MPCD so I don't want to use that display leaving the right display, then radar will have to go on the left DDI

[Ziptie]

Just double checked...it's only the left DDI that gets cut off at the bottom of the screen.

I use the map on the MPCD so I don't want to use that display leaving the right display, then radar will have to go on the left DDI

 

Personally, I use the right screen for radar and FLIR primarily, as when weapons are selected - or even A/A or A/G master mode, it always sets the store page to the left DDI - which can sometimes get you into trouble if an important screen like radar or FLIR viewing is interrupted.... But that is again, a personal preference of mine and mileage may vary for yourself or others.

 

A quick toggle between SA page and HSI page via the SCS aft for the AMPCD would certainly be a useful tool, but unsure that ED will be implementing this (either way).

 

 

Cheers,

 

Don