59th_Putyin Posted October 15, 2007 Posted October 15, 2007 very pathetic. i wanted to fly by MiG's and SU's not some kind of AH the next year, or maybe in 201x, full with bugs. I guess i'll reinstall the Falcon or Il2. We had waste 2 years for this "fantastic notification" because we belived what you promised on the webpage. very revolting and appalling. i wish you same correct business partners like you are guys.
Geier Posted October 15, 2007 Posted October 15, 2007 No flyable planes except Ka50... LOL, but ITSN'T what I want... Geier out
GGTharos Posted October 15, 2007 Posted October 15, 2007 Waste? What did you waste two years on? very pathetic. i wanted to fly by MiG's and SU's not some kind of AH the next year, or maybe in 201x, full with bugs. I guess i'll reinstall the Falcon or Il2. We had waste 2 years for this "fantastic notification" because we belived what you promised on the webpage. very revolting and appalling. i wish you same correct business partners like you are guys. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
Boberro Posted October 15, 2007 Posted October 15, 2007 It is no waste but big dissapointing. What with great Su25T? Think - mission with two A-G planes would be cool. Now we must choose or Su25T or Ka-50. That is not fair. We waited so MUCH TIME so why they didn't adapt Su25T standard to standard of Ka-50 (or resign for 3D cocpit but 25T MUST be with chopper plz). Reminder: Fighter pilots make movies. Bomber pilots make... HISTORY! :D | Also to be remembered: FRENCH TANKS HAVE ONE GEAR FORWARD AND FIVE BACKWARD :D ಠ_ಠ ツ
Flyby Posted October 15, 2007 Author Posted October 15, 2007 Hmmm...With support for a two-place cockpit online, can a Tornado add-on be far behind? The thought makes me :D Flyby out The U.S. Congress is the best governing body that BIG money can buy. :cry:
59th_Putyin Posted October 15, 2007 Posted October 15, 2007 Waste? What did you waste two years on? What i waste? I see this word isn't your favorite...let me tell you Time and confidence. Two years was not enough to finish this Lock on but we had wait for the BS... Finish means make something without bugs for money, not for free. Maybe the beta testers aren't able to make it done... But now we have the answer where is the promised BS... Basically i don't want to argue with you because i am the customer - you know who pays your income - i bought this sw and i am not satisfied with the treatment, the product and the company. the end of this story is calculable.
59th_Putyin Posted October 15, 2007 Posted October 15, 2007 Hmmm...With support for a two-place cockpit online, can a Tornado add-on be far behind? The thought makes me :D Flyby out 1 year was not enough to fix the bugs...do you think 9 months will be?
Boberro Posted October 15, 2007 Posted October 15, 2007 One is sure in 100% - we have to wait too long. Sometimes I feel that ED doesnt respect us. As we known ED, Iam sure new game will has much bugs as it can has. And all bugs even after so much time waiting. Reminder: Fighter pilots make movies. Bomber pilots make... HISTORY! :D | Also to be remembered: FRENCH TANKS HAVE ONE GEAR FORWARD AND FIVE BACKWARD :D ಠ_ಠ ツ
GGTharos Posted October 15, 2007 Posted October 15, 2007 What i waste? I see this word isn't your favorite...let me tell you Well, it makes no sense. Time and confidence. Two years was not enough to finish this Lock on but we had wait for the BS... Finish means make something without bugs for money, not for free. I wouldn't want to work for free ... as for time and confidence? ... I can see confidence, but time? You aren't actually -doing- anything that would waste your time on this. In other words, you've wasted nothing, and it's not like there were other opportunities that you have passed up. Maybe the beta testers aren't able to make it done... But now we have the answer where is the promised BS... Maybe you haven't been reading ... ED spent a lot of time making the A-10C sim for the USANG, so they weren't working on BS at that time. So BS has really been in development for about a year. Further, BS introduces a number of new software technologies which take time to develop all on their own. It isn't 'just another flyable'. Basically i don't want to argue with you because i am the customer - you know who pays your income - i bought this sw and i am not satisfied with the treatment, the product and the company. the end of this story is calculable. You are not my customer, I don't make a red cent off of you; I test Black Shark for free. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
krel01 Posted October 15, 2007 Posted October 15, 2007 I would like to know when the decision was made to switch development to DCS instead of using the LOCKON FC engine? Why didn't anybody tell the community earlier if this was all clear very early? If this wasn't clear early what is the status of BS development with the DCS engine now at all? I really wonder about these great movies we saw from "Lockon" BS. I have the impression this WAS the Lockon engine! Correct me if I am wrong. Greetings krel01 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
VMFA117_Poko Posted October 15, 2007 Posted October 15, 2007 NDA is the past now? Can we ask whatever we want to, GG? Can we please about posting screens from in.e. new ME or something like that?
GGTharos Posted October 15, 2007 Posted October 15, 2007 I would like to know when the decision was made to switch development to DCS instead of using the LOCKON FC engine? Why didn't anybody tell the community earlier if this was allclear very early? They are under no obligation to do so - and perhaps, the cause is the same as that with any business - competition? This is basically a trade secret until it is out in the open. If this wasn't clear early what is the status of BS development with the DCS engine now at all? The status is um...just fine? As was stated by ED, they were hoping for a release sometime in 2007 or early 2008. I really wonder about these great movies we saw from "Lockon" BS. I have the impression this WAS the Lockon engine! Correct me if I am wrong. There is no such thing as the 'Lock On Engine'. Lockon is a collection of things/flyables/whatevers utilizing this engine. All the same, this engine has been changed already somewhat and is no longer the same one as what is in Lock On. Just because you cannot see it doesn't mean it isn't so - there's a lot more to a sim engine than just graphics. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
GGTharos Posted October 15, 2007 Posted October 15, 2007 NDA is the past now? Can we ask whatever we want to, GG? Can we please about posting screens from in.e. new ME or something like that? The NDA is still in effect; but we can perhaps clarify or talk about some things now that have become public knowledge. We are not authorized to release screenshots, sorry. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
SVK_Fox Posted October 15, 2007 Posted October 15, 2007 very pathetic. i wanted to fly by MiG's and SU's not some kind of AH the next year, or maybe in 201x, full with bugs. I guess i'll reinstall the Falcon or Il2. We had waste 2 years for this "fantastic notification" because we belived what you promised on the webpage. very revolting and appalling. i wish you same correct business partners like you are guys. My words. I am pretty sad, really..... Time will show if this is good decision for lockon fans...
Jack Posted October 15, 2007 Posted October 15, 2007 I do not understand it simply if he is so much already work killed the developers into the Black Shark. Why it is not published then what was ready till now. (Naturally without bugs.) [sIGPIC]http://www.forum.lockon.ru/signaturepics/sigpic49854_1.gif[/sIGPIC]
GGTharos Posted October 15, 2007 Posted October 15, 2007 Because there still are bugs to deal with :) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
The_GOZR Posted October 15, 2007 Posted October 15, 2007 All this time in the dark to finally tell us that BS will be a stand alone .. what waste for lockon an ED could give us the plugins for 3d max and make cockpit 3 d.. what a waste of time
VMFA117_Poko Posted October 15, 2007 Posted October 15, 2007 What will be next? Apache or A-10 :lol: Well, what happened is a little bit disapointing but I won't cry. I must get used to resignment from jets to helos. You guys can dally right now but then you'll realise it really doesn't make sense. It's happend and you can't do anything now. I'm happy we know almost everything finally. Thanks for announcement ED - it really changed my life :D So let's get started: Can we have a sticky thread where can get a knowledge about every part of real Ka50 from real basics to spend more months waiting and prepare to first flight? 1
thereminqblank Posted October 15, 2007 Posted October 15, 2007 All this time in the dark to finally tell us that BS will be a stand alone .. what waste for lockon an ED could give us the plugins for 3d max and make cockpit 3 d.. what a waste of time Erm, I think it took a little more than just a 3d model of a cockpit. and it's not stand alone. You will be able to integrate it with other aircraft when they are released. "Unholy Roller" [sIGPIC]http://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/images/userbars/A-10C_UserBar_01.gif[/sIGPIC]
Pilotasso Posted October 15, 2007 Posted October 15, 2007 ED made a logical choice, but I wonder why it took so much time to announce it. It breaks my heart that lockon ends here. BS looks like to have become "tank killers", i.e. no fighters. It will be a long wait for another jet SIM. Untill then fans like me will go into obscurity, probably never to pick up this hobby again due to RL changes in the mean time. Take care. 1 .
The_GOZR Posted October 15, 2007 Posted October 15, 2007 I agree Pilotasso same here really waste of time i say .. now can we have more tools to make Lockon Better... what a waste!!!!!!!!!!!
airea Posted October 15, 2007 Posted October 15, 2007 Until jets for DCS are released, maybe Fighter OPS become finally succesfull to release what they do...
Force_Feedback Posted October 15, 2007 Posted October 15, 2007 But those are trainers as well, initially. The Hog is fine, but something with afterburners would be nice, sure we can go all Airwolf on the Ka-50, but that will eventually end in either en ejection or a sudden decelleration due to the speed differential between the ka-50 and terra firma. Creedence Clearwater Revival:worthy:
thereminqblank Posted October 15, 2007 Posted October 15, 2007 If it was still the intention to go with Tank Killers, we'd still be waiting for that for a long time. The way I see it, at least we get parts of that as they are finished. There is still Lock On, and with the excellent mods that grandsurf, rockwelder and Yeniceri are doing, it's going to be taken to a whole new level. But I will admit that a patch for 1.13 would be welcome! "Unholy Roller" [sIGPIC]http://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/images/userbars/A-10C_UserBar_01.gif[/sIGPIC]
The_GOZR Posted October 15, 2007 Posted October 15, 2007 It's sad that it take a members of a forum to make lockon better and ED is incapable to do so after MANY years. also the jets are in small minority so imagine now the helicos'
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