w.i.p. [W.I.P]Landing gear animation

[Voskopoulos]

Hello and many thanks for introducing the F-16 in DCS!

 

Could I draw your attention in the sequence of the retraction of the wheels shown clearly in this HAF video at min 3.45 you can see that the rear wheels are closing just before the nose wheel which is opposite to the sequence is shown in the video WAGS has posted.

 

I am not sure if it is only the HAF block 50 vipers that have that sequence

 

many thanks

 

Tolis

 

https://youtu.be/O9tTNDLyB8E?t=227

[mvsgas]

Nothing specify whether the Main Landing Gear (MLG) or the Nose Landing Gear (NLG) should go first. As long as the sequence take less that 32 seconds to complete IIRC, mechanics would call it good.

 

It should not matter the block for the landing gear sequence, but the landing gear light on the MLG would indicate this are block 30/32 or below.

Edited October 2, 2019 by mvsgas

[mvsgas]

To add, there is a specific sequence of event on each gear, but not in relation to each other.

For example: the MLG roller must hit the uplock switch before pressure is sent to the MLG door to close. But does not matter if the NLG is up first or not when talking in relation to the landing gear sequence valve.

[Bouli306]

Selecting the gear down will open all gear doors using hydraulic pressure but Left and Right Main gears are free fall, the nose gear is extended by hydraulic pressure. So the Main gears should not go down with negative G or inverted flight.

[Voskopoulos]

another video I found (not Greek)

 

 

and another

 

 

it seems to me that the rear gear consistently retract first and have a "bump" just before retracting completely and deploy after the nose gear

Edited October 2, 2019 by Voskopoulos

[Buschwick]

If you want that much realism you shouldn't be using external views anyway.

 

Not all gear behave the same man. Fact.

[SmoglessPanic]

If you want that much realism you shouldn't be using external views anyway.

 

Not all gear behave the same man. Fact.

 

I mean...can they get to EA and tweak all the minor stuff later?...lol

[Buschwick]

I was gonna say there's about 983 things that they need to address before something like this, if it even has any merit.

[SmoglessPanic]

I was gonna say there's about 983 things that they need to address before something like this, if it even has any merit.

 

Agreed.

 

Disclaimer:

Apologies to the original poster if I sound like a jerk. He gets his say too.

[cofcorpse]

Thanks for report! Gear retraction animation will be improved further in development.

[dtpilot247]

Hello, all. I have noticed that the landing gear speed on the Viper is very slow and has a couple of characteristics that are off about it. There are a couple of points that I would like to direct attention to through the video above.

- This landing gear animation speed differs from even the animations shown in the landing gear video Eagle Dynamics posted pre-Viper release
- The in-game door opening speed is roughly two times slower than that of the real Viper. Other videos can be located on YouTube for exact Block 50 comparisons if desired, but they have the same speed as those on the Block 20 MLUs shown in the video above. Example: https://youtu.be/XrmC864AqXU?t=86
- Upon retraction, the real Viper's landing gear system shows a sudden slow down of the mains movement about halfway through. This is where the wheels will lock/stop rotation. This is not just a ground/maintenance characteristic, as seen here during an aerial photography session: https://www.instagram.com/p/Crv7JL9goiK/
- In DCS, the Viper's main landing gear retracts much slower than the nose wheel. In real life, the main landing gear, including its doors, either retract at the same speed as the nose wheel or faster by roughly about 1/2 a second
- The current speed of the in-game Viper's landing gear retraction as a whole seems to be comparable to the real jet, but if there was a force greater than +1G applied immediately after takeoff. If the same is applied to the in-game Viper, the gear retraction speed slows down even longer than shown in the video.

No modifications have been made to my in-game Viper and recorded footage from current version 2.9.4.53990 are of a clean DCS installation.

Edited May 21, 2024 by dtpilot247

[Tholozor]

Already reported: 

 

[dtpilot247]

It's been reported but has it been remembered? Four years have passed, and many of the much more important things have now been implemented on the ED Viper since that time. I think it's fair to consider this a report of value now.

Edited May 22, 2024 by dtpilot247

[Lord Vader]

Hi, @dtpilot247

As it was said, the gear animation was previously reported and is scheduled to be improved in time. And, like you said, other important items have been (and will be) implemented on the DCS: F-16C.

Rest assured this isn't forgotten and will be addressed.