Labels are always opaque (Labels.lua)

[D.Va]

Maybe I'm wrong about this, but shouldn't the following create a dot that's only 10% opaque? In fact, all labels currently appear opaque to me, is this intentional? What else is "opacity"?

 

[10000] = dot_symbol(0,0.1)

[Tippis]

Opacity only affects the label shadow. The label itself is always rendered at 100% opacity and the only thing that you can tweak with it is its fade-to-black level (color_blending_k), usually to hide the coalition colour at longer distances. If you have no visible shadow, opacity does not affect anything.

 

 

https://www.airgoons.com/w/DCS_Reference/Labels

Edited October 12, 2019 by Tippis

[D.Va]

Opacity only affects the label shadow. The label itself is always rendered at 100% opacity and the only thing that you can tweak with it is its fade-to-black level (color_blending_k), usually to hide the coalition colour at longer distances. If you have no visible shadow, opacity does not affect anything.

 

 

https://www.airgoons.com/w/DCS_Reference/Labels

 

Wow, that's a great reference!

[Hippo]

Opacity only affects the label shadow. The label itself is always rendered at 100% opacity

https://www.airgoons.com/w/DCS_Reference/Labels

 

Sorry to resurrect, but can someone please clear this up? What I can say for sure, is that until relatively recently (and notwithstanding what is stated in the link), the opacity number DID vary the opacity of the label itself.

 

Quite irritatingly, this stopped working, and has never been fixed, as mentioned in this thread and others. e.g.

 

https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=230253&highlight=labels

 

With the following file, the label would initially "blip" (op=0.7), then become nearly transparent as the target was approached ( op=0.2 / 0.1), and then fade away when close enough to the target (op=0.05 / 0.0) so the label was no longer necessary (which is exactly what I intended). Now it's just solid all the time.

 

 

-- Label parameters
-- Copyright (C) 2004, Eagle Dynamics.

AirOn                     = true
GroundOn                  = true
NavyOn                      = true
WeaponOn                  = true
labels_format_version     = 1 -- labels format vesrion

font_properties =  {"verdana.ttf", 20, 0, 0, 0}

local symbol_def1        = "."        -- Default symbol
-- local symbol_id2        = ". %N"    -- Symbol with object name

local symbol_def2        = "□"        -- Default symbol
-- local symbol_id1        = "□ %N"    -- Symbol with object name

local symbol_def3        = "•"        -- Default symbol
-- local symbol_id2        = "• %N"    -- Symbol with object name

AirFormat = {
--[distance]    = {format, alignment, color_blending_k, opacity, shift_in_pixels_x, shift_in_pixels_y}
[2000]    = {symbol_def2    , "Right Center",    0.0,    0.0,    -5    ,    15},
[2500]    = {symbol_def2    , "Right Center",    0.0,    0.2,    -5    ,    15},
[20000]    = {symbol_def2    , "Right Center",    0.0,    0.2,    -5    ,    15},
[20030] = {symbol_def2    , "Right Center",    0.0,    0.7,    -5    ,    15},
}

GroundFormat = {
--[distance]    = {format, alignment, color_blending_k, opacity, shift_in_pixels_x, shift_in_pixels_y}
[500]    = {symbol_def2    , "Right Center",    0.0,    0.05,    -5    ,    15},
[3000]    = {symbol_def2    , "Right Center",    0.0,    0.1,    -5    ,    15},
[10000]    = {symbol_def2    , "Right Center",    0.0,    0.1,    -5    ,    15},
[10030] = {symbol_def2    , "Right Center",    0.0,    0.7,    -5    ,    15},
}

NavyFormat = {
--[distance]    = {format, alignment, color_blending_k, opacity, shift_in_pixels_x, shift_in_pixels_y}
[20000]    = {symbol_def2    , "Right Center",    0.0,    0.0,    -5    ,    15},
[20500]    = {symbol_def2    , "Right Center",    0.0,    0.2,    -5    ,    15},
[21000]    = {symbol_def2    , "Right Center",    0.0,    0.2,    -5    ,    15},
[30000]    = {symbol_def2    , "Right Center",    0.0,    0.2,    -5    ,    15},
[30030] = {symbol_def2    , "Right Center",    0.0,    0.7,    -5    ,    15},
}

WeaponFormat = {
--[distance]    = {format, alignment, color_blending_k, opacity, shift_in_pixels_x, shift_in_pixels_y}
[50]    = {symbol_def2    , "Right Center",    0.0,    0.0,    -5    ,    15},
[500]    = {symbol_def2    , "Right Center",    0.0,    0.2,    -5    ,    15},
[530]    = {symbol_def2    , "Right Center",    0.0,    0.7,    -5    ,    15},
[560]    = {symbol_def2    , "Right Center",    0.0,    0.2,    -5    ,    15},
[5000]    = {symbol_def2    , "Right Center",    0.0,    0.2,    -5    ,    15},
}

-- Colors in {red, green, blue} format, volume from 0 up to 255

-- ColorAliesSide   = {192, 192, 192}
-- ColorEnemiesSide = {192, 192, 192}
-- ColorUnknown     = {192 ,192, 192} -- will be blend at distance with coalition color

ColorAliesSide   = {220, 220, 220}
ColorEnemiesSide = {220, 220, 220}
ColorUnknown     = {220 ,220, 220} -- will be blend at distance with coalition color

ShadowColorNeutralSide     = {192, 192, 192, 255}
ShadowColorAliesSide    = {192, 192, 192, 255}
ShadowColorEnemiesSide     = {192, 192, 192, 255}
ShadowColorUnknown         = {192, 192, 192, 255}

BlurColorNeutralSide     = {192, 192, 192, 255}
BlurColorAliesSide        = {192, 192, 192, 255}
BlurColorEnemiesSide    = {192, 192, 192, 255}
BlurColorUnknown        = {192, 192, 192, 255}

This is infuriating, as it is really useful in VR. If you're going to break something, then please fix it - otherwise what's the point of beta testing.

Edited February 16, 2020 by Hippo

[gavagai]

Sorry to resurrect

 

Let's do it again. Years ago you could definitely make dot-labels fade out at range, and it was a neat effect.

 

Do we need to put in a support ticket?

[Taz1004]

Let's do it again. Years ago you could definitely make dot-labels fade out at range, and it was a neat effect.

 

Do we need to put in a support ticket?

 

Opacity doesn't work but there is workaround. Line 207 of the default Labels.lua

 

ColorUnknown = {50, 50, 50}

 

Add 0 at the end.

 

ColorUnknown = {50, 50, 50, 0}

 

Then color_blending_k values will work as opacity.

 

 

My Labels file attached as example.

Labels.lua

Edited September 20, 2020 by Taz1004

[gavagai]

Hallelujah! I will try that.

 

Kudos to you, that works.

Edited September 21, 2020 by gavagai
kudos

[Черный Дракул]

On 9/20/2020 at 11:23 PM, Taz1004 said:

 

Opacity doesn't work but there is workaround.

Man, you are a hero. Truly -- my labels are now displaying everything as they should, creating a blip that slowly dissipates when you need to see the contour.

I just can't get why it doesn't come like this in the default version.