Odd turbulence destroying jets online

[BoneDust]

We flew a wing flight this evening with overcast ceiling at 15,000' and snow.

 

5 out of 6 jets experienced this anomaly:

 

pilot experiences slight wake turbulence with no other jets around him. Within 5-10 second the jet spin violently, pilot blacks out, regains consciousness and the jet explodes. Jets that experienced this were at various altitudes; 15,000, 26,000 etc. Strange vertical line graphic anomaly appears 30 seconds or so before this issue.

 

First jet was lost about 12 minutes into the flight. Next two jets were lost 30 minutes into the flight, and last 3 jets were lost about 45 minutes into the flight.

 

One of the guys has a video and I'll post once he renders it.

Edited November 14, 2019 by BoneDust

[BoneDust]

Here's a video of one of the incidents that destroyed two jets.

 

[Richard Dastardly]

I *think* this happens when someone has a connection issue & starts warping around at insane speeds, generating ludicrous wake turbulence - if it is that ( I've seen this whole thing enough to not be too surprised anymore ) then it could be at least neutered by a sensible clamp on aircraft speed when it's calculating wake turbulence...

[BoneDust]

I *think* this happens when someone has a connection issue & starts warping around at insane speeds, generating ludicrous wake turbulence - if it is that ( I've seen this whole thing enough to not be too surprised anymore ) then it could be at least neutered by a sensible clamp on aircraft speed when it's calculating wake turbulence...

 

That could be. We had one guy that was wrapping around. He was about 5 miles from the guys in the video.

 

Thanks for the info bud. :thumbup:

[Emmy]

Yeah, we've had entire flights just blow up in their hard stands when there's a major warp storm.

[razo+r]

I was flying once on a server without wake turbulence enabled and the same happened. The next player/plane was like 80km away, yet i somehow crashed midair at quite some altitude.

[BoneDust]

It is unfortunate these issues are being over looked in a push to get new items in the install. Our wing has gone from nightly flights to once a week because people are frustrated with these core issue bugs such as servers needing restarted every few hours, repeating ATC calls etc. The general sense is we are worse off now than 18 months ago with regards to stability.

 

Hoping we see some real progress on the core sim soon because if its not stable the new things are irrelevant.

[Kid18120]

It's indeed due to warping, as others have pointed out.

ED should set some kind of hardcoded limit to the strenght of wake turbulence to avoid those "mach 10 warps uber turbulences" from generating

[BIGNEWY]

It is unfortunate these issues are being over looked in a push to get new items in the install. Our wing has gone from nightly flights to once a week because people are frustrated with these core issue bugs such as servers needing restarted every few hours, repeating ATC calls etc. The general sense is we are worse off now than 18 months ago with regards to stability.

 

Hoping we see some real progress on the core sim soon because if its not stable the new things are irrelevant.

 

Hi

 

Just want to say it is not being overlooked, we are investigating.

 

Net code and looking at lag and warping is a concern for the team, but it is not an easy issue, many factors are at play from the net code itself, internet / connectivity issues / or users with potato connections or packet loss.

 

Finding ways of dealing with this without creating massive warping or collisions is being looked into by the team.

 

Thanks

[hazzer]

There is an issue with the turbulence at low level as well. In multiplayer it was experienced where players would overfly others on the taxiway and it would destroy the jets, since the turbulence doesn't interact with the ground and dissipate. Meaning on servers like the aerobatics online that it has to be disabled. Perhaps an option to make aircraft on the ground immune from wake?

[BIGNEWY]

We flew a wing flight this evening with overcast ceiling at 15,000' and snow.

 

5 out of 6 jets experienced this anomaly:

 

pilot experiences slight wake turbulence with no other jets around him. Within 5-10 second the jet spin violently, pilot blacks out, regains consciousness and the jet explodes. Jets that experienced this were at various altitudes; 15,000, 26,000 etc. Strange vertical line graphic anomaly appears 30 seconds or so before this issue.

 

First jet was lost about 12 minutes into the flight. Next two jets were lost 30 minutes into the flight, and last 3 jets were lost about 45 minutes into the flight.

 

One of the guys has a video and I'll post once he renders it.

 

Can you attach the mission for me so I can test the same conditions.

 

I think as mentioned it is a connection issue, but it wont hurt to take a look at the mission also.

 

thank you

[Wesjet]

BigNewy, would it be possible to add a packet loss indicator on the scoreboard (like how we have ping)? That would give us players another way to at least diagnose the network connectivity during these type of events. Perhaps a log entry as well.