toni Posted November 17, 2019 Posted November 17, 2019 Hi guys, now that a full set of new type of clouds is being developed, what do you tell me about the chance of having downloadable Real Meteo thus Reading local Metars + Tafors for a given map and injecting into the sim. Just an idea.
Weta43 Posted November 18, 2019 Posted November 18, 2019 Real Time weather is a nice feature for a GA SIM, but it would be a lot of effort for something of little use in a combat SIM. Particularly WRT ground pounding / choppers, there's no point in firing up a mission (SP or MP) only to discover that the area has 10/10 cloud cover, and it's sitting on the ground. A2A maybe less of a problem, but if you're 10km does it make any difference what the weather on the ground is ? I think it would be more useful to vastly[/] improve the available features and GUI for weather creation & randomisation within defined parameters, so users can make weather (cloud cover, precipitation, wind & turbulence) a more intrinsic part of mission creation. Cheers.
ThorBrasil Posted November 18, 2019 Posted November 18, 2019 (edited) Real Time weather is a nice feature for a GA SIM, but it would be a lot of effort for something of little use in a combat SIM. Particularly WRT ground pounding / choppers, there's no point in firing up a mission (SP or MP) only to discover that the area has 10/10 cloud cover, and it's sitting on the ground. A2A maybe less of a problem, but if you're 10km does it make any difference what the weather on the ground is ? I think it would be more useful to vastly[/] improve the available features and GUI for weather creation & randomisation within defined parameters, so users can make weather (cloud cover, precipitation, wind & turbulence) a more intrinsic part of mission creation. I do not agree. It must have synchronization with real time. This will bring the simulator to life. Every simulator has it. It should already exist in DCS. It makes no sense to be setting up layers by layers with this new climate. It has to have real time integration with the weather. :thumbup: Edited November 18, 2019 by ThorBrasil |Motherboard|: Asus TUF Gaming X570-PLUS, |WaterCooler|: Corsair H115i Pro, |CPU|: AMD Ryzen 7 3800X, |RAM|: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB 3200MHz DDR4, |SSD|: Kingston A2000 500GB M.2 NVMe, |SSD|: Kingston 2.5´ 480GB UV400 SATA III, |SSHD|: Seagate Híbrido 2TB 7200RPM SATA III, |GPU|: MSI Gaming 980Ti, |Monitor|: LG UltraWide 34UM68, |Joystick 1|: Thrustmaster Hotas Warthog, |Joystick 2|: T.Flight Rudder Pedals, |Head Motion|: TrackIr 5.
Weta43 Posted November 18, 2019 Posted November 18, 2019 Really ? Think about how it would actually play out when you launched a mission. For example, how do you make use of a mission that simulates flying to a hard ceiling at the cloud layer, when after you launch it you discover that there's no cloud. Other than cool factor, I don't see what it actually adds to the simulation experience. Cheers.
ThorBrasil Posted November 18, 2019 Posted November 18, 2019 Really ? Think about how it would actually play out when you launched a mission. For example, how do you make use of a mission that simulates flying to a hard ceiling at the cloud layer, when after you launch it you discover that there's no cloud. Other than cool factor, I don't see what it actually adds to the simulation experience. But the idea is to put in the editor the custom or real-time weather. You choose. :thumbup: |Motherboard|: Asus TUF Gaming X570-PLUS, |WaterCooler|: Corsair H115i Pro, |CPU|: AMD Ryzen 7 3800X, |RAM|: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB 3200MHz DDR4, |SSD|: Kingston A2000 500GB M.2 NVMe, |SSD|: Kingston 2.5´ 480GB UV400 SATA III, |SSHD|: Seagate Híbrido 2TB 7200RPM SATA III, |GPU|: MSI Gaming 980Ti, |Monitor|: LG UltraWide 34UM68, |Joystick 1|: Thrustmaster Hotas Warthog, |Joystick 2|: T.Flight Rudder Pedals, |Head Motion|: TrackIr 5.
danvac Posted November 18, 2019 Posted November 18, 2019 Maybe just random weather within some parameter would be enough. I don't see any reason to match it with real world.
Arctander Posted November 18, 2019 Posted November 18, 2019 A good idea for things like dynamic multiplayer, but not until cloud cover masks IR sensors. I don’t want to have to face flankers with Irst seeing me instantly through cloud cover thanks.
The Falcon Posted November 18, 2019 Posted November 18, 2019 It would be nice, especially with a global map
MacEwan Posted November 18, 2019 Posted November 18, 2019 Really ? Think about how it would actually play out when you launched a mission. For example, how do you make use of a mission that simulates flying to a hard ceiling at the cloud layer, when after you launch it you discover that there's no cloud. Other than cool factor, I don't see what it actually adds to the simulation experience. That's a good point. However, Real Weather could still add a lot to multiplayer or a Dynamic Campaign whenever we eventually get one.
phil106ci Posted November 18, 2019 Posted November 18, 2019 It would be nice, especially with a global map +1
nessuno0505 Posted November 19, 2019 Posted November 19, 2019 It makes sense with a global and current map. Why do try to match caucasus real weather when we have a 1990 map? Who does exactly know the real weather in 1945 normandy? And even if you know it, from where do you download it?
Jonne Posted November 19, 2019 Posted November 19, 2019 There are databases for historic weather. The NOAA has one. By the way the NOAA is a popular source of weather for other sims. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
ebabil Posted November 19, 2019 Posted November 19, 2019 dynamic weather was the fsx feature that i loved most. I hope they will add it to dcs as well FC3 | UH-1 | Mi-8 | A-10C II | F/A-18 | Ka-50 III | F-14 | F-16 | AH-64 | Mi-24 | F-5 | F-15E| F-4| Tornado Persian Gulf | Nevada | Syria | NS-430 | Supercarrier // Wishlist: CH-53 | UH-60 Youtube MS FFB2 - TM Warthog - CH Pro Pedals - Trackir 5
Buzzles Posted November 19, 2019 Posted November 19, 2019 Don't see the point in using real data, current or historical. If I build a scenario, I want to control the weather, at least to a degree. I think it'd be better to put dev effort into improving the current dynamic system that's in DCS. Fancy trying Star Citizen? Click here!
Weta43 Posted November 20, 2019 Posted November 20, 2019 dynamic weather was the fsx feature that i loved most. I hope they will add it to dcs as well There is the ability to have dynamic weather in DCS - it's just not easy to find or use. It does make dynamic weather though... Cheers.
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