kiss4luna Posted November 7, 2007 Posted November 7, 2007 I decided to upgrade my CPU to AMD X2 5200+ on November. But now I changed my plan. According to my PC game experience, DCS:Black Shark will need a powerful CPU more than a powerful GPU. So I think it would be better to upgrade my PC until the DCS: Black Shark released. :smartass: RTX 3070
Yeniceri Posted November 7, 2007 Posted November 7, 2007 I decided to upgrade my CPU to AMD X2 5200+ on November. But now I changed my plan. According to my PC game experience, DCS:Black Shark will need a powerful CPU more than a powerful GPU. So I think it would be better to upgrade my PC until the DCS: Black Shark released. :smartass: there is no game that 5200plus cant handle with a proper gpu.. i got 4400+ and i didnt go below 30 yet even in lockon MP [sIGPIC]http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa200/misikci/41-imza-1.jpg[/sIGPIC] "To infinity...and beyond!.." SIM-MOD Modeler TURK!
Nordic Posted November 7, 2007 Posted November 7, 2007 I decided to upgrade my CPU to AMD X2 5200+ on November. But now I changed my plan. According to my PC game experience, DCS:Black Shark will need a powerful CPU more than a powerful GPU. So I think it would be better to upgrade my PC until the DCS: Black Shark released. :smartass: who cares???
Geier Posted November 7, 2007 Posted November 7, 2007 So I think it would be better to upgrade my PC until the DCS: Black Shark released. :smartass: Same here;)
leafer Posted November 7, 2007 Posted November 7, 2007 Nordic, Your cockpit is awesome. It's similiar to what I want to do for myself. Is your rudder pedals homebuilt? If so, would you mind sharing the drawings/construction technique and is it hall effect sensored? ED have been taking my money since 1995. :P
kiss4luna Posted November 7, 2007 Author Posted November 7, 2007 Wow! Intel's new 45nm CPUs are crazy! http://hardware.mydrivers.com/img/20071107/01191638.jpg http://hardware.mydrivers.com/img/20071107/01381030.gif http://hardware.mydrivers.com/img/20071107/01381711.gif http://hardware.mydrivers.com/img/20071107/01382385.gif http://hardware.mydrivers.com/img/20071107/01383022.gif RTX 3070
Erdem Posted November 7, 2007 Posted November 7, 2007 Good choice, it would be a waste of money. I'd never go for AMD right now when there's C2D, other than price reasons TBH. And for new AMD CPU Phenom, it's struggling to keep up with even current C2D's, new 45nm C2D's will totally kill it IMO.
leafer Posted November 7, 2007 Posted November 7, 2007 Yeah, how much is that thing going to cost? ED have been taking my money since 1995. :P
-akyla- Posted November 7, 2007 Posted November 7, 2007 i upgrated my cpu to AMD X2 5000+ .. it was worth it! :shifty: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
G3 Posted November 7, 2007 Posted November 7, 2007 good old computer hardware, best time to sell is yesterday, best time to buy is tomorrow :) indeed this is true, but if you wait, then you wait and wait. if you upgrade now, you can upgrade again if need be. all depends on your funds and when bs is to be released, and if you know that then i also need next weeks lotto numbers. :)
Amuro Posted November 8, 2007 Posted November 8, 2007 I built my current rig, a C2D X6800, 8800 GTX SLI, 4GB RAM, last December. Now, I'm ready for the 45nm quads. Too bad DCS will not benefit from multi-core, but Crysis will. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Intel Core i7-3960X @4.3Ghz | Asus Rampage IV Extreme | Corsair CML16GX3M4A1866C9 4 x 4GB @1866Mhz 9-10-9-27-1T |eVGA GTX Titan Black Hydro Copper SLI | Plextor M5 Pro 512GB SSD | Crucial M4 512GB SSD | Seagate 2TB SSHD | Samsung Spinpoint F1 HD103UJ 1TB | Pioneer BDR-205BK 12x Blu-ray Burner | Creative x-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Sound Card | Corsair A1200 1200W PSU Cooling - Watercool MO-RA3 420 PRO stainless steel radiator with 9x Noiseblocker NB-BlackSilent Pro PK-2 140mm fans
VMFA-Blaze Posted November 8, 2007 Posted November 8, 2007 Good choice, it would be a waste of money. I'd never go for AMD right now when there's C2D, other than price reasons TBH. And for new AMD CPU Phenom, it's struggling to keep up with even current C2D's, new 45nm C2D's will totally kill it IMO. Yes I agree completely.. AMD is old school, Intel is the one to beat at this point in time.. You have to really check out performance ratings before you buy something ..Go to Tom's Hardware to mention just one, AMD was the leader but not any more... Blaze intel Cor i7-6700K ASUS ROG MAX VIII Extreme G.Skill TridentZ Series 32 GB Samsung 850 Pro 1TB SATA II ASUS GTX 1080/DIRECTX 12 Windows 10 PRO Thrustmaster Warthog Oculus Rift VR
leafer Posted November 8, 2007 Posted November 8, 2007 Yes I agree completely.. AMD is old school, Intel is the one to beat at this point in time.. You have to really check out performance ratings before you buy something ..Go to Tom's Hardware to mention just one, AMD was the leader but not any more... Blaze Man, I had been out of the loop for so long. The bottom line is this. We had better pray AMD sprints ahead of Intel or at least catches up soon because other wise, let the price gouching begin from Intel -- again. Remember those days? Old school or not, it's AMD that gave us affordable Intel processors. ED have been taking my money since 1995. :P
Amuro Posted November 8, 2007 Posted November 8, 2007 Man, I had been out of the loop for so long. The bottom line is this. We had better pray AMD sprints ahead of Intel or at least catches up soon because other wise, let the price gouching begin from Intel -- again. Remember those days? Old school or not, it's AMD that gave us affordable Intel processors. I doubt it. AMD is running out of cash in the bank right now. Has to borrow just to keep doors open let alone catch up with Intel. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Intel Core i7-3960X @4.3Ghz | Asus Rampage IV Extreme | Corsair CML16GX3M4A1866C9 4 x 4GB @1866Mhz 9-10-9-27-1T |eVGA GTX Titan Black Hydro Copper SLI | Plextor M5 Pro 512GB SSD | Crucial M4 512GB SSD | Seagate 2TB SSHD | Samsung Spinpoint F1 HD103UJ 1TB | Pioneer BDR-205BK 12x Blu-ray Burner | Creative x-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Sound Card | Corsair A1200 1200W PSU Cooling - Watercool MO-RA3 420 PRO stainless steel radiator with 9x Noiseblocker NB-BlackSilent Pro PK-2 140mm fans
Kuky Posted November 8, 2007 Posted November 8, 2007 It's very true what leafer says... when there is no competition all hell breaks loose... pricing wise :( PC specs: Windows 11 Home | Asus TUF Gaming B850-Plus WiFi | AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D + LC 360 AIO | MSI RTX 5090 LC 360 AIO | 55" Samsung Odyssey Gen 2 | 64GB PC5-48000 DDR5 | 1TB M2 SSD for OS | 2TB M2 SSD for DCS | NZXT C1000 Gold ATX 3.1 1000W | TM Cougar Throttle, Floor Mounted MongoosT-50 Grip on TM Cougar board, MFG Crosswind, Track IR
kiss4luna Posted November 8, 2007 Author Posted November 8, 2007 hey guys,what does the 'old school' mean? RTX 3070
Amuro Posted November 8, 2007 Posted November 8, 2007 @Amuro: I´m quite sure that BS will benefit from multi-core CPUs compared to a single-core, it is just not optimized to fully use their potential. Q: Will DCS: Black Shark be Vista-compatible and take advantage of multi-core processors? A: The initial release of DCS will use a heavily modified version of our TFCSE simulation engine that will run Windows XP SP2 and Vista equally well using either DirectX 9 or DirectX 10. However, DCS versions based on the TFCSE engine will not take advantage of DirectX 10 unique features or multi-core processors. We plan however to provide such features in our new simulation engine that is currently in development for later versions of DCS. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Intel Core i7-3960X @4.3Ghz | Asus Rampage IV Extreme | Corsair CML16GX3M4A1866C9 4 x 4GB @1866Mhz 9-10-9-27-1T |eVGA GTX Titan Black Hydro Copper SLI | Plextor M5 Pro 512GB SSD | Crucial M4 512GB SSD | Seagate 2TB SSHD | Samsung Spinpoint F1 HD103UJ 1TB | Pioneer BDR-205BK 12x Blu-ray Burner | Creative x-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Sound Card | Corsair A1200 1200W PSU Cooling - Watercool MO-RA3 420 PRO stainless steel radiator with 9x Noiseblocker NB-BlackSilent Pro PK-2 140mm fans
Nordic Posted November 8, 2007 Posted November 8, 2007 Nordic, Your cockpit is awesome. It's similiar to what I want to do for myself. Is your rudder pedals homebuilt? If so, would you mind sharing the drawings/construction technique and is it hall effect sensored? Hi leafer, glad you like it :). Actually it is a "dual cockpit", both for racing and flying. Therefore i have to keep things neutral and flexible and those alu profiles are just perfect for this purpose. Although i would love to build a complete cockpit, there is just no space and time. For the pedals i'm using a vishay 357 poti which have proven their precision and lifetime in my racing pedals. I don't have plans, but you can send me pm for more infos. We are already offtopic in a offtopic thread;).
TorwaK Posted November 8, 2007 Posted November 8, 2007 4 cores, 12Mb cache, nice overclock capability. Look like Intel made Q9450 for me :D [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Intel Core i7-6700K, @5GHz | Asus Maximus Hero VIII | 2 x eVGA GTX 970 SLI | Kingston Predator 16GB DDR4-3000Mhz | 2 x Samsung 850 PRO 240GB RAID-0 | AOC G2460PG G-SYNC LCD | OCULUS RIFT CV1 VR | THRUSTMASTER HOTAS WARTHOG | CH PRO PEDALS
TheMoose Posted November 9, 2007 Posted November 9, 2007 I'm very happy with my INTEL CORE 2 QUAD Q6600 2.4G 2x4MB 65NM 1066MHZ Ram: MUSHKIN 4GB 4X1GB DUAL HP2-6400. Motherboard: Asus P5K EVGA GeForce8600GTS 256MB DDR3,DVI,TV-OUT Besides all the remaining trimmings with DVR-R and thermaltake power supply SATA HD etc. Nice Tower as well: http://www.antec.com/us/productDetails.php?ProdID=15900 Antec 900 Good prices for the punch. Maybe not TOP of the TOP, but hey I have budget restraint like you all ;). Still I'm very satisfied :thumbup: Only cost 1300$ Canadian, true without taxes. Why wait? Indulge yourself if your wife permits it :P Antec 900 gaming tower, PSU: Corsair 750W, Q6600, Asus P5K, 8Gig Mushkin, Nvidia eVGA 280 GTX Superclocked 1G DDR3, SSDNOW200 Kingston Drive, TrackIr 3000+Vector, Logitech Extreme 3D Pro joystick, Saitek rudder pedals pro, Sharp 42" inch LCD Aquo. OS: windows 7 64bit.
Amuro Posted November 9, 2007 Posted November 9, 2007 Sure, I know that statement, however what I wanted to say is this: take a dual core CPU and run BS, Windows and all the other applications like Teamspeak, XFire, firewall, antivirus etc. 1. on both cores, and then 2. switch off one core and run all of that on the remaining one. I'd say BS will run much smoother in the first case because there is more processing power available to handle all the other threads/processes that are running in the background. IMO what they wanted to say is that BS will initially not be optimized to take advantage of the full potential that multi core CPUs offer, i.e. there is no multi threading, the weather, flight model, graphics, campaign etc. engines won't have their own threads that can be processed side by side and simultaneously. So yes, you're right, BS won't take advantage of these features, but that doesn't necessarily mean that it won't run better on dual- or quad-cores CPUs. :) Of course, for multi-tasking the more cores you have the better, but I'm the game itself. If the game is not multi-threaded it won't run better on multi-cores, period. In fact, it may run slightly slower on a Intel non-native quad-core than on an equally clocked dual-core dual due to the additonal bus overhead and/or bad thread management in the OS. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Intel Core i7-3960X @4.3Ghz | Asus Rampage IV Extreme | Corsair CML16GX3M4A1866C9 4 x 4GB @1866Mhz 9-10-9-27-1T |eVGA GTX Titan Black Hydro Copper SLI | Plextor M5 Pro 512GB SSD | Crucial M4 512GB SSD | Seagate 2TB SSHD | Samsung Spinpoint F1 HD103UJ 1TB | Pioneer BDR-205BK 12x Blu-ray Burner | Creative x-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Sound Card | Corsair A1200 1200W PSU Cooling - Watercool MO-RA3 420 PRO stainless steel radiator with 9x Noiseblocker NB-BlackSilent Pro PK-2 140mm fans
Amuro Posted November 9, 2007 Posted November 9, 2007 Sure, I know that statement, however what I wanted to say is this: take a dual core CPU and run BS, Windows and all the other applications like Teamspeak, XFire, firewall, antivirus etc. 1. on both cores, and then 2. switch off one core and run all of that on the remaining one. I'd say BS will run much smoother in the first case because there is more processing power available to handle all the other threads/processes that are running in the background. IMO what they wanted to say is that BS will initially not be optimized to take advantage of the full potential that multi core CPUs offer, i.e. there is no multi threading, the weather, flight model, graphics, campaign etc. engines won't have their own threads that can be processed side by side and simultaneously. So yes, you're right, BS won't take advantage of these features, but that doesn't necessarily mean that it won't run better on dual- or quad-cores CPUs. :) Of course, for multi-tasking the more cores you have the better, but I'm talking about the game itself. If the game is not multi-threaded it won't run better on multi-cores, period. In fact, it may run slightly slower on a Intel non-native quad-core than on an equally clocked dual-core dual due to the additonal bus overhead and/or bad thread management in the OS. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Intel Core i7-3960X @4.3Ghz | Asus Rampage IV Extreme | Corsair CML16GX3M4A1866C9 4 x 4GB @1866Mhz 9-10-9-27-1T |eVGA GTX Titan Black Hydro Copper SLI | Plextor M5 Pro 512GB SSD | Crucial M4 512GB SSD | Seagate 2TB SSHD | Samsung Spinpoint F1 HD103UJ 1TB | Pioneer BDR-205BK 12x Blu-ray Burner | Creative x-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Sound Card | Corsair A1200 1200W PSU Cooling - Watercool MO-RA3 420 PRO stainless steel radiator with 9x Noiseblocker NB-BlackSilent Pro PK-2 140mm fans
TheMoose Posted November 9, 2007 Posted November 9, 2007 Of course, for multi-tasking the more cores you have the better, but I'm talking about the game itself. If the game is not multi-threaded it won't run better on multi-cores, period. I do not agree with your assessment. Antec 900 gaming tower, PSU: Corsair 750W, Q6600, Asus P5K, 8Gig Mushkin, Nvidia eVGA 280 GTX Superclocked 1G DDR3, SSDNOW200 Kingston Drive, TrackIr 3000+Vector, Logitech Extreme 3D Pro joystick, Saitek rudder pedals pro, Sharp 42" inch LCD Aquo. OS: windows 7 64bit.
Amuro Posted November 9, 2007 Posted November 9, 2007 I do not agree with your assessment. Please explain why not then. And check out this, looks like Crysis aren't gonna benefit from having more than 2 cores either: http://blogs.pcworld.com/gameon/archives/005860.html [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Intel Core i7-3960X @4.3Ghz | Asus Rampage IV Extreme | Corsair CML16GX3M4A1866C9 4 x 4GB @1866Mhz 9-10-9-27-1T |eVGA GTX Titan Black Hydro Copper SLI | Plextor M5 Pro 512GB SSD | Crucial M4 512GB SSD | Seagate 2TB SSHD | Samsung Spinpoint F1 HD103UJ 1TB | Pioneer BDR-205BK 12x Blu-ray Burner | Creative x-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Sound Card | Corsair A1200 1200W PSU Cooling - Watercool MO-RA3 420 PRO stainless steel radiator with 9x Noiseblocker NB-BlackSilent Pro PK-2 140mm fans
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