2.5.6 Carrier Coldstart

[Trigger_Happy]

Anyone try setting up on the cat yet with 2.5.6? It launches you the moment you hit 'U', and not in a good way :)

[Harker]

It works OK for me, as long as I contact the ATC and request permission to taxi. Then, I can hook up normally. I've only tried with CAT 1 though.

[Raisuli]

Worked fine for me. Hooked up to the CAT, jumped out of the cockpit and got a cup of tea (real Navy pilots do that), didn't launch until I went past the detent on the throttles.

 

 

Things went south after that, but that's PEBSAE.

 

 

For the record, CAT 2

[AG-51_Razor]

Cat 3 is the culprit for me. That is the one that throws me up off the deck :mad: I have tried this both in single player as well as multiplayer with very repeatable results unfortunately.

[cmfrosty]

I've tested this for hours on CAT 3. You may or may not have to contact the tower (still testing that one although I suspect you don't have to). When you approach the CAT and drop your Launch Bar - Double Tap 'U', You will probably get a message saying taxy to parking (ignore), Single Tap 'u" and the Blast shield should raise and you should be connected to the CAT. I have found a single Tap 'u' first up will result in a deck toss.

[cmfrosty]

This also applies after a trap when you taxi to the next CAT

[victorlima01]

I wonder what the hell went wrong for this sudden bug. It's worked well for so long!

[Gierasimov]

Working fine for me in single player

 

Hi all,

Maybe there is a problem with a mission or any customizations (mods, scripts?)

 

I went to a new mission in ME, setup my Stennis as I do always, set my Hornet to a cold start.

 

I do the CV start-up by the book, taxi (without talking to ATC) to ANY cat, align, go near the shuttle, drop the bar, hook-up (single press of U), get the rest of the steps (wings, avionics, bar to retract).

 

I launch fine from CATS 1-4, cold start, hot start from parking and runway start (CAT1). All working for me fine.

 

Single-player, DCS 2.5.6.44266 Open Beta

 

I suggest attaching a track file to show the issue, maybe include miz as well.

[GazAce]

No issues here

 

Hi all,

Maybe there is a problem with a mission or any customizations (mods, scripts?)

 

I went to a new mission in ME, setup my Stennis as I do always, set my Hornet to a cold start.

 

I do the CV start-up by the book, taxi (without talking to ATC) to ANY cat, align, go near the shuttle, drop the bar, hook-up (single press of U), get the rest of the steps (wings, avionics, bar to retract).

 

I launch fine from CATS 1-4, cold start, hot start from parking and runway start (CAT1). All working for me fine.

 

Single-player, DCS 2.5.6.44266 Open Beta

 

I suggest attaching a track file to show the issue, maybe include miz as well.

 

 

Earlier today I started in a DCS stock Cold start mission on Stennis from Bow Cat 1. All worked fine for me, no issues.

[104th_Maverick]

This is a known bug that has already been submitted to the dev team.

 

It also happens when ever you spawn HOT on the carrier, take off and recover. Once you have landed back on the carrier all the CATS will not work apart from CAT3, which will throw you off the ship when you try to connect.

 

Hopefully a fix will be out soon.

[Gierasimov]

Not quite

 

;4237104']This is a known bug that has already been submitted to the dev team.

 

It also happens when ever you spawn HOT on the carrier, take off and recover. Once you have landed back on the carrier all the CATS will not work apart from CAT3, which will throw you off the ship when you try to connect.

 

Hopefully a fix will be out soon.

 

 

I am now curious as to why it does work for me and others but not some.

What you described above I can't reproduce, I did notice one thing, which I posted here in relation to cats after traps -

 

https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=4225444&postcount=1

 

But the issue in this thread and the other one reported - is this MP only thing, a custom miz or a script maybe?

[AG-51_Razor]

Gierasimov, I tried your method: I created a new mission on the Cacus map with player Hornet set to spawn on the ramp cold. Went through normal start and taxied to Cat 3. Next I lowered the launch bar. The only thing I did differently than I have done in the past is to give the U key a double tap. The JBD made a slight movement then settled down in the stowed position. I gave it one more single tap and the JBD came up and the cat shuttle seemed to take tension. I made a perfectly normal launch. I came around and trapped and taxied back to Cat 3, lowered the launch bar, gave the U key a double tap (the JBD did not move) and then a single tap whereupon I was thrown up into the air and landed on the nose gear. :mad:

So close and yet, so far away! :lol:

[Raisuli]

Gierasimov, I tried your method: I created a new mission on the Cacus map with player Hornet set to spawn on the ramp cold. Went through normal start and taxied to Cat 3. Next I lowered the launch bar. The only thing I did differently than I have done in the past is to give the U key a double tap. The JBD made a slight movement then settled down in the stowed position. I gave it one more single tap and the JBD came up and the cat shuttle seemed to take tension. I made a perfectly normal launch. I came around and trapped and taxied back to Cat 3, lowered the launch bar, gave the U key a double tap (the JBD did not move) and then a single tap whereupon I was thrown up into the air and landed on the nose gear. :mad:

So close and yet, so far away! :lol:

 

 

I'll try this when I get home. I'm always looking for a new way to crash on the deck. Failing to trap is getting boring.

[AG-51_Razor]

I forgot to mention that this was done on the .44266 version with no mods installed. Also, no attempts were made to communicate with ATC.

[Gierasimov]

OK.. this is now interesting

 

Gierasimov, I tried your method: I created a new mission on the Cacus map with player Hornet set to spawn on the ramp cold. Went through normal start and taxied to Cat 3. Next I lowered the launch bar. The only thing I did differently than I have done in the past is to give the U key a double tap. The JBD made a slight movement then settled down in the stowed position. I gave it one more single tap and the JBD came up and the cat shuttle seemed to take tension. I made a perfectly normal launch. I came around and trapped and taxied back to Cat 3, lowered the launch bar, gave the U key a double tap (the JBD did not move) and then a single tap whereupon I was thrown up into the air and landed on the nose gear. :mad:

So close and yet, so far away! :lol:

 

So using your way I am getting the same now. However, after trapping and taxi back to Cat3 I am contacting ATC as per my method listed in the referenced post, and then all works OK for me. You can tell by steam coming out of the cat, once it is gone, you are good to go (tap single U), steam is back, you are hooked up and can go.

[AG-51_Razor]

:doh: I missed the part about contacting ATC after trapping. I will give that a try when I get home this afternoon.

[Trigger_Happy]

For the record, I made two attempts to contact the tower, each time no response and the ATC would remain greyed out, so maybe a bug with the tower as well?

[AG-51_Razor]

Maybe you could check your mission settings to see if simple (easy?) communications are selected. If realistic comms are checked, you'd need to make sure that A. you have the proper radio freq tuned up and B. You are using the right radio.

 

Whenever I call ATC from a cold ramp start, I get "request engine start" and they always answer appropriately. Next I want to request taxi but the only choice is "request takeoff" and they never answer until after I have managed to get hooked up on the cat.

[oldcrusty]

I usually start on the boat from hot parking (in SP). I never have to call anyone for clearance to do anything, just start taxiing to any cat (tested all 4 multiple times), hook up and launch.

The problems start after coming back to the boat and trying to hook up... as described by many already.

Here, I tried to see the whole event from the outside view hoping to get some clues as to WTF was going on... no luck. It almost looks like a prank :smilewink: