WMR VR vs. TrackIR for DCS - which would you chose?

[jlummel]

I have a Samsung HMD Odyssey+ that I picked up on Black Friday last year and also own a TrackIR5 I bought years ago for ARMA2 that has been gathering dust.

 

Before I invest the time and effort getting one or the other working and tuned in for DCS I thought I would ask what others think of both and where I should put my efforts.

 

For context I have an older system I use for gaming, a refurb HP Z230 with an i7-4770 @3.30Ghz, 16GB RAM, Samsung EVO 860 1TB SSD, and a nVidia 1060 6GB video card and I play on a 1080p Samsung monitor. This seems to work fine for most of the VR games I've tried, I've not had anything to complain about using the default settings in most games with VR.

 

Thanks!

[dburne]

I have a Samsung HMD Odyssey+ that I picked up on Black Friday last year and also own a TrackIR5 I bought years ago for ARMA2 that has been gathering dust.

 

Before I invest the time and effort getting one or the other working and tuned in for DCS I thought I would ask what others think of both and where I should put my efforts.

 

For context I have an older system I use for gaming, a refurb HP Z230 with an i7-4770 @3.30Ghz, 16GB RAM, Samsung EVO 860 1TB SSD, and a nVidia 1060 6GB video card and I play on a 1080p Samsung monitor. This seems to work fine for most of the VR games I've tried, I've not had anything to complain about using the default settings in most games with VR.

 

Thanks!

 

it will struggle some, all you can do since you already have the device is try it and see how you like it. If not satisfactory, then you have your monitor/ Track IR 5 that will do well obviously.

[eaglecash867]

Yup. You're not going to break anything on your computer by trying both options that you already have available to you. Use the force, Luke! :D

[Notso]

I could never go back to a flat panel after using VR in DCS. The immersion of VR is what makes this sim addicting in the first place. Going flat panel would be like looking at playboy mags when you have a naked supermodel living in the house with you. :megalol:

[jlummel]

Thanks for the reply, all of you that responded! It really gives me some food for thought.

 

While I might enjoy the occasional mash-up with other players live, I usually prefer the PvE play style (campaigns), so am not worried about cutting edge system performance. But still, one of the takeaways i'm seeing is that for VR, performance of my current system might be an issue, but that it's worth trying out anyways.

 

What I found the most interesting was what I didn't hear, and that's anything about resolution issues with VR vs. flat screen, game killing blurriness, or problems with working with cockpit instrumentation. And complaints about glitches and bugs (while they may exist, they aren't the first thing you think of).

 

That's heartening!

 

I could never go back to a flat panel after using VR in DCS. The immersion of VR is what makes this sim addicting in the first place. Going flat panel would be like looking at playboy mags when you have a naked supermodel living in the house with you. :megalol:

 

Your analogy only works if the supermodel's husband lives there too, since in VR you can look all you want but never actually get to touch... :joystick:

Edited March 29, 2020 by jlummel

[Wali763]

Going flat panel would be like looking at playboy mags when you have a naked supermodel living in the house with you. :megalol:

 

You forgot to write naked "airfilled Minecraft"-Supermodel, that in 2.5.6 is brakedancing all the time!

 

 

With an 1060 Id stay away from VR; even my 2070Super did not give me satifying results. Just sold my Reverb today since VR dont seem to reach my visual expectations.

 

 

But of course, if you have both, try both and find out, what you like.

Edited March 30, 2020 by Wali763

[speed-of-heat]

I have a Samsung HMD Odyssey+ that I picked up on Black Friday last year and also own a TrackIR5 I bought years ago for ARMA2 that has been gathering dust.

 

Before I invest the time and effort getting one or the other working and tuned in for DCS I thought I would ask what others think of both and where I should put my efforts.

 

For context I have an older system I use for gaming, a refurb HP Z230 with an i7-4770 @3.30Ghz, 16GB RAM, Samsung EVO 860 1TB SSD, and a nVidia 1060 6GB video card and I play on a 1080p Samsung monitor. This seems to work fine for most of the VR games I've tried, I've not had anything to complain about using the default settings in most games with VR.

 

Thanks!

 

on your spec, i would say you would need at a minimum to upgrade your graphics card to a 1070ti if you want to use VR well ... but as you already have the card and the O+ why dont you just try it ...

[BuzzU]

If you decide you're not going to use the TR5. I'll buy it but it has to be this week or i'll buy a new one.

[M1Combat]

That CPU at that speed will hold you back in VR.

 

That's your bottleneck.

 

In DCS anyhow... it'll be fine in anything else.

[jlummel]

If you decide you're not going to use the TR5. I'll buy it but it has to be this week or i'll buy a new one.

 

Sorry, but I'm not looking to get rid of it even if I do go with VR (which looks unlikely at this point, so I would want to use the TR5 myself in DCS).

 

That CPU at that speed will hold you back in VR.

 

That's your bottleneck.

 

In DCS anyhow... it'll be fine in anything else.

 

I'll keep that in mind as I test this out. I just read somewhere that DCS doesn't really use multithreading that well, which means CPU speed is still a major factor for performance!

[speed-of-heat]

Very few games use multi-core well, most of them multi thread just fine... dcs is a heavy cpu game, it will use up to three or four cores multiplayer, but most of the game logic will sit in a single core...

[StressLess]

Just a quick update. I managed to recover my original DCS Forums account from way back when and am moving off the newer jlummel account I've been participating under. I guess there's no way to merge the new account with the older one, so future postings will come from this StressLess account.

 

I still haven't tested out VR vs. TrackIR yet as I'm still tuning the game and my computer as it sits in 2D and some more research in using VR. I also moved from the release of SteamVR (used in DCS) to the beta version and so far that's made an incredible difference in how the Odyssey+ operates in other VR games, so I'm hoping it'll make DCS better than it might have been as well.

 

But there is some good advice in this thread and thanks to everyone who chimed in. Once I'm happy with which ever I choose I'll post a follow up on this thread.

 

But for now I just wanted to point out the change in userid on the forms and this thread.

 

Thanks! :thumbup:

 

BTW- one or two more questions, should I test VR in the current release version of DCS, or go with the 2.5.6 open beta version? Is the beta stable enough that it wouldn't be a source of problems while trying to get handle on VR?

Edited April 1, 2020 by StressLess

[speed-of-heat]

, 2.5.6 is not ready for prime time yet... go with 2.5.5