Using clickable cockpit in VR

[panton41]

How do others manipulate the cockpit in VR? I've found either using a mouse or trackball in my hand or mapping a couple HOTAS buttons to mouse clicks and using the centered pointer with head movement to works the best without getting into any kinds of single-purpose add-ons.

 

I tried the VR hand controllers but can't stand to use them in any software or game, much less the hand-twisting awkwardness you have to do in DCS World.

 

Are there options I haven't considered yet, or am I going down the right path so far? I know I've mentioned putting down lots on money on controllers on other threads, but those are about as far as I can go for expensive new toys for the time being.

[javelina1]

wouldn't fly without it.... :-)

 

https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=218861&highlight=vr+pointer

[Notso]

How do others manipulate the cockpit in VR? I've found either using a mouse or trackball in my hand or mapping a couple HOTAS buttons to mouse clicks and using the centered pointer with head movement to works the best without getting into any kinds of single-purpose add-ons.

 

I tried the VR hand controllers but can't stand to use them in any software or game, much less the hand-twisting awkwardness you have to do in DCS World.

 

Are there options I haven't considered yet, or am I going down the right path so far? I know I've mentioned putting down lots on money on controllers on other threads, but those are about as far as I can go for expensive new toys for the time being.

 

No, you're on the right track. I have my Warthog HOTAS mapped to as closely to RL F/A-18 HOTAS with a couple of additional buttons to make things easy when I don't want to hunt for the mouse. I've mapped my gear and flaps to a couple of throttle switches, same for the AAR probe and kneeboard, HMCS and NVGs. But other than that, I use a trackball for everything else in the cockpit.

 

A couple of things to consider - I've just added Voice attack and Trackpad apps and they're a godsend in VR. I've also added two TM Cougar MFDs for the ability to touch all the buttons instead of using the mouse trackball. I'm about to add the 3rd MFD for the Hornet MPCD buttons. It works well in VR once you get some muscle memory of where they sit in front of you.

 

I know some swear by it, but I haven't had any desire to try point control. YMMV

[AKA_Clutter]

That is what I did for a long time (mouse) Tried the head move and HOTAS button click but never really got used to it.

 

I second the recommendation for Voice Attack and ViaCOmm(?).

 

I did end up going with a third party add on, called Point CTRL and it works well for me.

[panton41]

I have Voice Attack and ViaCom, I just rarely use it. I can't wear the VR headset and bulky over-ear headphone for very long without getting a headache; take one or the other away and I'm fine. I generally either earbuds or simply use PC speakers, depending on how much isolation and privacy I want while under VR.

 

The Viacom features are nice when I can remember the exact wording to use. Is it terribly difficult to map and train other things? My biggest concerns are things you need right now when you can't take your hands off the HOTAS, like landing gear or ejection.

 

I have a Windows Mixed Reality headset and I don't think PointCTRL would work all that well with it. I don't feel like trying to get the fiddly mounting setup on them. I like the idea in theory, but in reality I think hand/finger tracking the new Oculus has is the future for that.

 

Can I get a link for one of the Trackpad apps?

 

I think the other thing I'm going to end up doing is setting aside a portion of my computer room as a VR simpit area that's set away from the main computer desk so I can keep things set up without them getting in the way. I've done it off and on for a while and it makes vehicle sims easier (I also play Euro/American Truck Simulator in VR) but other VR stuff a little more awkward, but I think I have a layout now that'll solve that problem.

[DD_Crash]

Thought of this?

https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=269443

[arturojgt]

Thought of this?

https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=269443

 

 

 

I have one and is like VR, It is a must.

 

 

Dream Commodore 64C, 1530 datasette, 1541 floppy disk drive, DCS cartridge, competition pro joystick, 14” Tv with VCR.

[TAW_Impalor]

Mapped the mini-stick SCX/SCY on Warthog throttle to move and click. Well, I just touch it to activate the cursor, then move it by head. Works pretty well. But to rotate knobs must use touchpad on my diNovo Edge keyboard.

[hornblower793]

The Viacom features are nice when I can remember the exact wording to use. Is it terribly difficult to map and train other things?

 

 

It is very easy to do, you just need to add another Voice Attack profile with the extra commands you want and then link this to Vaicom. I have set mine up with additional commands to tell me the real time (useful in VR so I remember to switch off and go to bed), to switch between positions 1 and 2 in multi position aircraft and to take dictation from me and add it straight to an on-screen scratchpad so I can listen to JTAC and then recall what he has said.

 

 

PM me if you want greater detail on how to do it.

[Andrew u.k.]

It's got to be Pointctrl , but while you're waiting get a finger trackball, it worked OK, but doesn't match Pointctrl for immersion.

 

https://www.urban-factory.com/en/home/683-wireless-ring-mouse-mini-mouse-to-be-used-on-finger-3760170840529.html

 

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