bvr help

[zoranin73]

I m trying to pratice my dogfighting and I m fighting vs AI,flying on Su27 or Mig29s vs F15 or F16 and there are some difference which I don t understand.When f15c fire Aim120 on me my rwr start to bipping to alert me when Aim120 is on half way to my plane and ok this is active radar missile and I start to evade fast and aggresive and with F16 I get signal from rwr immediately when the Aim120 is launched towards me,I saw this in Tacwiev later when I m analysing fights.Is this ok can someone explain me,also is there a way to see proximity of enemy missile to me on my rwr.

 

Thanks

[Sryan]

Many fighters can use a mode called TWS that allows them to guide missiles like the AIM-120 without giving you a warning immediately. Only when the missile activates its own radar (this is called "going pitbull") will the RWR warn you of the incoming threat. This is what the F-15 has been using against you. The F-16 has access to two such modes (TWS and SAM (situational awareness mode)) but it looks like they AI does not use that, then.

 

 

 

You can tell the proximity of the highest threat (in case of active missiles guiding on you, most likely those) by looking at the circular light strips on the RWR. The fuller the circle is (closing in on the 7'o clock position), the closer said threat is. This is shown on page 212 of the flaming cliffs manual.

[draconus]

Depends on range and radar mode. When launched in TWS from medium/long range you'll only get the RWR warning once the AIM-120 goes ARH. When launched in STT (or TWS short range) you'll get warning immediately. On Su-27/33 and Mig-29 there're these lights aroung the RWR instrument which show strength of the signal - so not exactly range but with experience you can guess from that.

[zoranin73]

Su27 and Mig29 also have TWS mode,how is this affecting on F15,F16 rwr system,for example Su27 R27 semi active missile, is it have some difference firing in Scan or Tws mode,for Mig29s his R77 radar active missile engaging in Tws mode is it same effect on F16,F15 like when they shooting on me with Aim120 in Tws mode?

[TotenDead]

Russian TWS switches to STT right after the target gets locked

[draconus]

СНП (SNP) or SNP2 (Mig-29S only) is not really the same mode as western TWS and is very limited in use.

[DarkStar]

To answear your second question, no, there is no way to track the proximity of an incoming missile on your RWR. Use your RWR, radar and eyes to anticipate and evade. :)

[Harlikwin]

To answear your second question, no, there is no way to track the proximity of an incoming missile on your RWR. Use your RWR, radar and eyes to anticipate and evade. :)

 

Actually if you have the Jeff, and the SPJ pod it will "sort" of calculate the range of ARH missiles based on signal. Its not prefect by any means but it has outer and inner rings for far/close.

[zoranin73]

Ok thanks for help,you guys helped me a lot.